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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-13 12:30 AM (#552131 - in reply to #539179)
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I cut the bumper off, those bolts were pretty much fused on and the bumper has a rust hole in it, it actually doesn't look bad but theres was a bad spot.

Most chromers wont give a core charge for it so its probably scrap, I used the square grind trick.

Back of the car isn't bad, got some soft spots in the trunk to handle and of course the trunk drops needs replaced. I'm pushing hard to get the body done before winter. I want to rebuild over the winter in the garage, I only have a few weeks left.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-17 6:03 PM (#552549 - in reply to #539179)
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body comes off the frame tomorrow... as long as no rain...





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Powerflite
Posted 2017-11-17 10:16 PM (#552569 - in reply to #539179)
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Nice. Wish I had the space for a rotisserie. I'm jealous.
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Posted 2017-11-18 10:36 AM (#552592 - in reply to #539179)
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Making good progress. Hope you can beat the weather!!

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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-18 5:44 PM (#552632 - in reply to #539179)
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hah I didn't...
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-21 12:25 AM (#552827 - in reply to #539179)
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had to wait the next day..



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Posted 2017-11-21 7:14 AM (#552831 - in reply to #539179)
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You are doing that car Justice! keep up the posts and pics. I dig the timber body stand, Nice one!

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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-21 9:33 PM (#552892 - in reply to #539179)
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frame has Rust Bullet first coat, one more rust bullet coat and then the black shell goes on.

I actually added some more "drain" holes, after power washing the frame, I realized Chrysler doesn't really provide adequate drainage on its frames, so I drilled some low access drain holes and a couple at the ends of the rear upper shock support bar... water was pooling in there, no longer with my car and I put some rust blast in there where I could and jacked the frame back and forth to move it, I doubt I got it all though. I wonder if someone has a dip rust proofing bath? hah that wouldn't be cheap





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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-25 12:17 AM (#553084 - in reply to #539179)
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found the engine number on the frame and got the second coat of rust bullet and final coat of black shell...

it took a lot of paint... that was a 50$ can of rust bullet and half a can of black shell.





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Powerflite
Posted 2017-11-25 12:43 AM (#553086 - in reply to #539179)
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And...a lot of work to clean that all up. Nice job.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-11-30 12:14 AM (#553413 - in reply to #539179)
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rear floor pan, It just cut the whole thing out to make it easy. I could have patched it but in the end I said screw it and redid the whole thing which was easier. Passenger side is a lot better so I will figure that out.

May just do a smaller patch, seems like they rot around the upper bracket. and down in the well on the floor. those stiffening slots caught water a lot it seems.





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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-12-04 11:01 PM (#553720 - in reply to #539179)
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holy crap I'm grinding and cleaning... dirt and dust and crap everywhere outside... one more good day.

Ive got the underneath cleaning going, the trunk sections I need to replace mostly cut out. Trunk drops are pending and lower quarter pieces after the cleanup happens, I hope to have the entire up and down front cowl done tomorrow. I can finish welding in the garage when its warm, getting underneath rustbulleted and rustproofed.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-12-17 11:36 PM (#554522 - in reply to #539179)
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putting trunk drops in to keep the shape, the C2C kind of do the job, I still need to build the patch in the front, I am replacing more metal than I thought I would but I don't willy nilly patch, I am doing most of the edges.

I still need to trim the big hole but I wanted to get the side supported, I will trim the rusty stuff back and make a big patch. I will then grind and wire wheel it all before painting.





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jboymechanic
Posted 2017-12-18 11:51 PM (#554615 - in reply to #539179)
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Awesome to see, keep at it!
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-12-28 9:24 AM (#555113 - in reply to #539179)
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cut out more of that bad rust, all cleaned up. I am near to finishing, drivers side trunk was the bad side.

My main objective is get this car done underneath/coated and get the car back on the frame, ill finish the cleanup and paint on the frame.

its fricking like 10 degrees... not going to be fun outside removing the leftover undercoating with a wire wheel in that weather. inside the wheel well I swear its a half inch thick.





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Powerflite
Posted 2017-12-28 11:57 AM (#555120 - in reply to #539179)
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My '58 Dodge had undercoating on the inside floors and was really disgusting. Looks like they just dumped it in there with a pail. It was really lumpy and at least 1" thick in places. It was still in good shape, but I chiseled out a bunch of it just to make the floor less lumpy. Being in S. Cal, I don't miss those winters at all. It's supposed to be 80 degrees today. I used to dream of working in a big shop with a good wood burning stove in the middle of it. Now I dream of having enough space to be able to work in the shade.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-12-28 10:28 PM (#555141 - in reply to #539179)
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passenger side is done!

I was also wondering about "dry ice" removal of rust proofing? not sure how I put this on my wheel wells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRh5H43Xs44

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Posted 2017-12-29 12:06 AM (#555146 - in reply to #555141)
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mikes2nd - 2017-12-28 7:28 PM

passenger side is done!

I was also wondering about "dry ice" removal of rust proofing? not sure how I put this on my wheel wells

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Wow, the dry ice works great. You might be able to use some plastic sheets, cut pieces of a round plastic trash can for example, duct taped on three sides inside the wheel well to create pockets that you could pack with the ice. Or fill a disposable pie tin (cobbler tins are rectangular) with ice and mash & hold it in a section at a time. Scraping the inside of a curve upside down doesn’t sound so fun.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-12-29 10:33 AM (#555169 - in reply to #539179)
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im gonna try it, you just kind of tap it an it should crack and fall.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-01-09 12:53 AM (#555897 - in reply to #539179)
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trunk welding is done, gotta grind now.

got my 57 chevy body mounts from rock auto



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-01-27 11:34 PM (#557072 - in reply to #539179)
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Since I am going with a Holley Sniper EFI carb setup. I picked up some EFI fuel hose, a holley post and pre filter setup.
I already have a external fuel pump ready. So I basically have this kit.

I will run the feed from the hose in the tank and the return down the fill tube.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-01-28 10:13 PM (#557137 - in reply to #539179)
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last little bit to weld inside... now to start the "grinding" and cleaning... Rust bullet and seal sealing and the final painting and undercoating.

I have to get under the car and wire brush/scrub, grind a bit. The car must go on the body this week as I have a few days off until back to work full time... uhg... must get done!



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-02 1:04 AM (#557367 - in reply to #539179)
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so I am pondering "seats" I think I restore an original set and a "long distance driving set". A modern comfortable bench seat from like 2011 ford or dodge pickup with a center seat(almost a bench).

I will get them in the same vinyl color to match. I am hunting seats now.

fords look like this, that center part goes up to reveal a center seat. its one unit.




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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-20 6:30 PM (#558523 - in reply to #539179)
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fuel tank is nice





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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-26 9:55 PM (#558871 - in reply to #539179)
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final grinding and finish entire inside rust bullet and top coat...

finally weather breaking in ohio, i need to move south



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-11 12:28 PM (#559660 - in reply to #539179)
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so im back outside for a while. Someone had backed into the lower front quarter panel and the arch was kind of bashed in and It wasn't playing nice so I had a patch, I didn't have the original arch so I used this one to get the perfect original shape back. It was kind of hard to just build it in mid air, so I will cut the rust off this and rebuild it using the original arch piece and I replace the large flat area. It actually creased the lip...

you can see it in the original pictures. I have to be very careful with the heat. took me a while to tempate the other side and get this perfectly lined up, I got it lined up the 4 try and said screw it, tack it in quick before it shifts again so i didnt have time to scuff the paint on the tacks... i have to recut around the patch, you can see my original placement was off and sucky.  So i will slice again and butt weld it.  Then i cut out the rust and the bottom off and merge into the lower rocker already in place. 

From the driverrocker picture you can see i had  most of the damage pounded out and rust cut out but I later looked and the angle wasnt perfect, the lip was pushed in too much then i remembered i had a spare quarter panel



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-11 9:42 PM (#559706 - in reply to #539179)
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Of course the front tack didn't hold, but that magnet is insane, I cant get it off unless I slide it to an edge.

Retrimmed and got it tacked in today... I have to be extremely slow and careful even tacking it in it so thin. Like welding paper

I had to cut it a few times to get it to set perfectly flat since its pulling differently as I tacked all the way around. Pretty annoying.

I started hacking the rust out of the edge and I have to rebuild that piece. Its going to be perfect when its done.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-16 2:02 AM (#559984 - in reply to #539179)
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took forever... cooling every weld. Had to be super careful. seriously this was probably 6 hours getting in.

I still have some more clean up around the edge, get the final patch in front and back and I have to be careful whenever im welding anything here still, constantly cooling.

But my new edge is perfect and original.



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Powerflite
Posted 2018-03-16 10:56 AM (#559997 - in reply to #539179)
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Nicely done. Yes that panel is a bear to weld. It does help if you have the bottom & lip area loose so that you weld those parts in last, but even then, it really wants to warp on you. Since you can't really get to the backside of the panel, going slow is the best you can hope for.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-18 1:31 AM (#560087 - in reply to #539179)
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turned out great,

started the grinding to get it nice and smooth. Ill skim coat it.





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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-04-01 11:00 PM (#560919 - in reply to #539179)
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finishing painting underneath and in trunk, put down some sound deadening in trunk.

ran the brake lines...

Pushing hard to get this car back on the frame finally now that winter is starting to ease up... sheesh... once thats done i can get back to antennas... frame and body sitting around is a big headache.




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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-04-13 7:51 PM (#561570 - in reply to #539179)
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everything seam sealed up... painted and used this wurth stuff for undercoating...

So its got 3m seam sealer, rust bullet 2 coats, coat of Wurth SKS...

I sealed up any holes or trouble spots so water cant wick up.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-04-22 12:40 AM (#562051 - in reply to #539179)
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body is back on, 57 chevy mount kit worked well.



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