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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-10-28 11:43 PM (#589455 - in reply to #539179)
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Looking great, and more like a car every day.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-11-11 3:57 AM (#590001 - in reply to #539179)
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Lower valence i think will stay color matched... not a huge fan of the silver...

 

painted a hood hinge and a trunk hinge, both were buggered... Took like 5 trunk hinges and 3 hood hinges to get good ones...

 



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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-11-11 11:00 AM (#590015 - in reply to #539179)
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Winter plans are

0. get car on dolley and down to bmv for title
1.cut end buff small pieces for final assembly.anything in the front end.
2 get roof wrapped
3. get wiring harness rough installed under the dash and run. Start mapping the new harness to the old dash
4. Put a volt meter in place of amp gauge, keep face and needle though
5. get dash installed, power steering column completed
6. gas tank and fuel pump installed in the rear of the car(mapping electric pump).
7. fuel line
8. brake line hookup
9. carb install
10. glass install and finish roof /glass install
11. radiator and fan install
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Mopar1
Posted 2019-11-11 3:50 PM (#590028 - in reply to #590015)
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Should have got Title before doing any work on it.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-11-11 4:45 PM (#590029 - in reply to #590028)
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Mopar1 - 2019-11-11 3:50 PM Should have got Title before doing any work on it.

 

just a formality, i have a clean matching title.  You take it out to any small bmv and they send the title in.  ive done it many times.  I have to have a out of state inspection, a little 70 year old little asian lady comes out and looks for the vin number and odometer...

You cant have a car in pieces though, it has to look like a car :)  I bought this car off a cop in missouri so i dont think it was stolen... I can call him up and tell him though

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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-11-16 11:39 AM (#590207 - in reply to #539179)
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Test fitting front end... putting it together to take to BMV office




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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-02 9:17 PM (#595108 - in reply to #539179)
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I went with the Edelbrock AVS2

Laying out the wiring harness.

I got a 59 Dodge hood and lower front bumper... My 59 dodge front end is complete.




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KcImperial
Posted 2020-03-02 11:20 PM (#595114 - in reply to #539179)
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I put one of those AVS2's on my 383 last year, very happy with it. It's now the best running, carbureted car I own
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-03 12:22 AM (#595116 - in reply to #595114)
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KcImperial - 2020-03-02 11:20 PM I put one of those AVS2's on my 383 last year, very happy with it. It's now the best running, carbureted car I own

yeah i dont want to go with some ratty old carb... Seems the AVS2s are the real deal, i looked at the holley brawler also but this is low profile, came with a free air cleaner and 20$ off

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22mafeja
Posted 2020-03-03 2:40 AM (#595117 - in reply to #595116)
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I really like that color... pretty close to the one I have on my Firedome...



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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-04-05 8:29 PM (#596477 - in reply to #539179)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqVSVCwwwI

cutting and buffing...
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-04-06 1:59 AM (#596488 - in reply to #595108)
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mikes2nd - 2020-03-02 6:17 PM
I went with the Edelbrock AVS2


Mike: Not sure what manifold you are using. After watching two videos on the AVS2, I am interested in a 500 cfm one for my 56 Dodge D500 315 hemi. Might be over kill but I am not happy with my rebuilt stock D500 Carter WCFB 2442S four barrel. The AVS2 sounds promising.

I still have the stock WCFB manifold so I think that I would at least need a spread bore type adapter. After that, I don't have clue.

Any thoughts?

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Mopar1
Posted 2020-04-06 6:04 PM (#596517 - in reply to #596488)
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56D500boy - 2020-04-06 12:59 AM

mikes2nd - 2020-03-02 6:17 PM
I went with the Edelbrock AVS2


Mike: Not sure what manifold you are using. After watching two videos on the AVS2, I am interested in a 500 cfm one for my 56 Dodge D500 315 hemi. Might be over kill but I am not happy with my rebuilt stock D500 Carter WCFB 2442S four barrel. The AVS2 sounds promising.

I still have the stock WCFB manifold so I think that I would at least need a spread bore type adapter. After that, I don't have clue.

Any thoughts?

:)
The AVS is a square bore, you'll need the HH small bore to big bore adaptor. Never seen hard numbers on the WCFB, supposedly 375-450 CFM.
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57burb
Posted 2020-04-06 6:06 PM (#596518 - in reply to #596517)
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WCFBs are 385cfm.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-04-08 9:56 PM (#596607 - in reply to #539179)
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fitting radiator... cut and buffed a fin... going to wrap it..

I am using a hot heads hemi manifold.



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56D500boy
Posted 2020-04-08 11:23 PM (#596610 - in reply to #596518)
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57burb - 2020-04-06 3:06 PM
WCFBs are 385cfm.


I am told that my 56 D500 2442S WCFB was 320 cfm so not all WCFBs were created equal (??)

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-04-08 11:24 PM (#596611 - in reply to #596607)
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mikes2nd - 2020-04-08 6:56 PM cut and buffed a fin... going to wrap it.


Great job on the fin. Going to be a shame to wrap it and cover up your excellent work.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-05-26 10:37 PM (#598819 - in reply to #539179)
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so i tried pulling the rear hub off the axle and it broke my puller... 3 hours down the drain Even more reason to go out and find a new posi axle.. Im off to hunt at the pull a part. the cut down ford is 57.5... a little short but I can deal with offset and a spacer if i have to.

Painted the inner rockers, gas tank is in, electric fuel pump is mounted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geyuFv4zw_g

 

 



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-05-26 11:33 PM (#598822 - in reply to #539179)
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Another reason to buy a good quality puller. Many people have had gobs of trouble with crappy quality pullers, and yet, John Folie has literally pulled 1000's of them with his puller without fail, and so have I. Just because we are smart enough to use a puller that is actually suited for the job.



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56D500boy
Posted 2020-05-26 11:35 PM (#598823 - in reply to #598819)
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Three things:

1. What is this 3M wand? Looks good.

2. I used one Eastwood can per rocker cavity on my 56 Dodge. If I get a 3M wand, I might go again.

3. What drum puller did you break? I am waiting for the borders to re-open so I can order one of Les Fairbanks's pullers.

Thanks



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normsclassicradio
Posted 2020-05-27 5:27 PM (#598849 - in reply to #598819)
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mikes2nd - 2020-05-26 8:37 PM

so i tried pulling the rear hub off the axle and it broke my puller... 3 hours down the drain Even more reason to go out and find a new posi axle.. Im off to hunt at the pull a part. the cut down ford is 57.5... a little short but I can deal with offset and a spacer if i have to.



I broke the same puller. I just drove the studs in and removed just the drum. I did however find one of the heavier pullers as pictured if I need to change the axle seals.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-05-27 6:53 PM (#598851 - in reply to #539179)
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I ordered a new puller. If it breaks it has a warranty. If i cant get it off I will leave it overnight.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012P0QV5K


It was an older 60's puller. Cast iron but still very stout. A Henco?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-3-Jaw-Henco-Wheel-Hub-Puller-No-66/...


here is the spray wand I used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfisO8h8vYY



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-05-27 7:08 PM (#598852 - in reply to #539179)
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That one works sometimes, if it isn't too stuck. The snap on or blue point 4567-G is the one I recommend. Right now the cheapest is $220 on Ebay, but they come up for $80-$150 if you are looking out for them.

Edit: Found one for $90. Much better price. Someone buy it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BLUE-POINT-HEAVY-DUTY-WHEEL-HUB-PUL...

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-05-27 8:03 PM (#598855 - in reply to #598851)
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mikes2nd - 2020-05-27 3:53 PM here is the spray wand I used.


Thanks for the video link. 3M 08851 wand kit is definitely better than the Eastwood four-holer that I used with their cavity paint. Looks like I need to do that all over again - with the 3M wands.



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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-05-27 10:00 PM (#598864 - in reply to #539179)
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Use some heat with the puller next time, that is the key.
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-05-27 10:00 PM (#598865 - in reply to #539179)
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Use some heat with the puller next time, that is the key.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-05-27 10:47 PM (#598870 - in reply to #539179)
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yeah tried heat, ill see if this puller works, heat, liquid wrench, let it sit overnight... ill whack it also
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