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punchitbaby
Posted 2017-03-18 4:11 PM (#536159)
Subject: Electronic Ignition System


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Hi, guys

I have a 1958 Plymouth Fury with a 350 engine, and am having trouble with the original ignition points. Just wondering if anybody has added the new electronic systems to their cars, and if they work well or not? Any suggestions, pros or cons, would be appreciated!

Phil
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-03-18 4:27 PM (#536160 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: RE: Electronic Ignition System



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punchitbaby - 2017-03-18 4:11 PM Hi, guys
I have a 1958 Plymouth Fury with a 350 engine, and am having trouble with the original ignition points. Just wondering if anybody has added the new electronic systems to their cars, and if they work well or not? Any suggestions, pros or cons, would be appreciated! Phil


I'm pretty much still a noobie here but I recently converted my dual point D500 hemi distributor (IBK-4301A) using a Pertronix CH392 (or "1383") kit. Easy peasy. Not sure which kit you would need.

The engine starts much quicker now and idles and runs much better. That said one of the issues with the points was my internal distributor ground wire must have been failing because it broke off during the installation of the Pertronix kit. I made a new ground from de-soldering wick because of the multiple woven strands will resist fatigue cracking of the wire.

I also installed a Pertronix internal ballast Flame Thrower coil. No more need for the external ballast resistor that can cause ignition problems.

Pertronix catalogue: http://pertronix.com/catalogs/pdf/ptx/2015/Pertronix2015.pdf

Plymouth V8s are on page 12 (14/76). Looks like it might be a 1383 but hopefully others will chime in with a more informed answer/confirmation.

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mstrug
Posted 2017-03-18 5:55 PM (#536163 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition System



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Distributor
Year Cyl Model Notes Footnotes. Ignitor, IgnitorII, IgnitorIII

Plymo uth
1980 4 1400cc, 1600cc Hitachi 1, 79 1741 91741
1976-79 4 All models Mitsubishi 79 1942 91942
1933-34 6 All models Delco 13, 36, 40, 55, 56, 57, 79 1168LS 91168LS
1935-42 6 All models Autolite IGS Series 13, 55, 56, 57, 79 2563LS 92563LS
1946-50 6 All models Autolite IGS, IAP Series 13, 55, 56, 57, 79 2563LS 92563LS
1960-72 6 All models Chrysler 8, 79 1361A 91361A
1973-81 6 All models Chrysler 2, 15, 79 CH-161 9CH-161
1955-58 8 All models Autolite IBK, IAZ Series 10, 56, 79 1383 91383 71385
1957-62 8 All models Autolite IBP Series 8, 79 71385
1959-71 8 383-440 cid. engine (including Hemi) Auto/Prestolite IBS Series 10, 79 1382 91382 71385
1959-72 8 All models Chrysler 8, 79, 102 1381A 91381A 71381A
1968-73 8 340 six pack engine Prestolite 1384 91384
1972-81 8 All models Chrysler 2, 15, 79 CH-181 9CH-181

Footnotes:

1 Excluding California models
2 Factory electronic ignition
5 Canadian models only
8 Single point distributor
10 Dual point distributor
13 Lobe sensor module
15 Excluding lean burn computer controlled engines
16 Mechanical advance under breaker plate
18 Excluding 215 and 300 cid. engine
19 Mechanical advance at top of shaft
33 Vacuum advance distributor
34 Non vacuum advance distributor
36 Excluding distributor number 1112314
40 With “straight” point set
43 Odd fire engine
55 Ignitor version available in 6V negative ground, add N6 suffix
56 Ignitor version available in 6V positive ground, add P6 suffix
57 Ignitor version available in 12V positive ground, add P12 suffix
63 With four lobe point cam
64 With three lobe point cam
67 Mil-Spec Waterproof Ignition
71 Late DM2 distributor with one piece point set
72 Fit both single point and dual point distributors
79 Not for use with solid core spark plug wires
86 Requires modification to distributor
90 Excluding distributor number 1110824
102 Complete “Stock-Look” distributors available on page 42
103 Kit contains two modules for dual coil application
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FourFans
Posted 2017-03-18 7:03 PM (#536165 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition System



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I have always been an msd fan. Billet distributor and coil is all one needs.
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Mopar1
Posted 2017-03-19 9:52 AM (#536192 - in reply to #536165)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition System



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Or get the electronic system off a 400.
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1960fury
Posted 2017-03-19 10:13 AM (#536194 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: RE: Electronic Ignition System



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installed a Mopar Performance electronic ignition system in the early 90s and couldn't be happier. still works like new.
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sermey
Posted 2017-03-20 10:00 AM (#536297 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: RE: Electronic Ignition System


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By searching with a key word in this site, more than 50% of the questions can be  answered.
I hope this helps as well.  Good luck.   - SERGE -  

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=27056&posts=8&highlight=ignition&highlightmode=1#M185865

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=27487&posts=30&highlight=ignition&highlightmode=1#M190390

 

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FURY
Posted 2017-03-28 6:57 PM (#536831 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: RE: Electronic Ignition System



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I have installed the Pertronix system in 4 of my cars now, with the Flamethrower coil.
Completely original/invisible/stock looking. Made in USA. Cheap, around $80 I think. Reliable. No more burnt out points, failing ground wire, inoperable condenser. Easy to install.
(You can still keep your original points setup in a plastic bag in your glovebox if you're really worried about it failing.)
I have only ever heard third party hearsay/gossip about Pertronix failing, never spoken to anybody who has actually had a single problem with a properly installed Pertronix system.
Glenn.
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grunau
Posted 2017-03-30 8:42 AM (#537011 - in reply to #536831)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition System


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Hi
So what you're saying is that the Pertronix unit drops right in to the distributor without modification? I was under the impression that the advance/breaker plate had to be hacked up to make this fit and only the Dual Point distributor was usable for the Pertronix mod. If that's the case it ain't gonna happen....
I'm not even sure why I'm asking this...I've NEVER had any of the grief you guys are talking about .... I set up my distributors on a distributor machine and then install them etc.
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dlyle
Posted 2017-03-30 6:58 PM (#537052 - in reply to #536159)
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition System



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I always get rid of points and install Pertronix units. Ive had one too many condensers go bad and strand me so out they go just as soon as I can. Haven't done it yet on the 57 but soon will.
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