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drosera88
Posted 2017-03-15 10:46 PM (#536029)
Subject: 58 D500. I think? Maybe? What is this guy talking about?



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This is a particularly hard ad to understand because it's basically one long sentence. On top of that he starts talking about how he was the guy who invented unleaded gasoline, how he's not selling a non existent 73 Challenger with 71 stripes on it, and that he didn't post photos because photos never work.

I am very confused. 

https://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/cto/6016864069.html

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CaprockClassics
Posted 2017-03-15 11:10 PM (#536030 - in reply to #536029)
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I'm gonna guess it's BS or a joke.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-03-15 11:59 PM (#536032 - in reply to #536030)
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I think he was sniffing too much of that gasoline. You're right, one long sentence.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-03-16 2:39 AM (#536036 - in reply to #536030)
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CaprockClassics - 2017-03-15 11:10 PM

I'm gonna guess it's BS or a joke.


I googled "Wally Hansen inventor chemist unleaded gasoline" and failed to find anything useful.

YMMV

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GregCon
Posted 2017-03-16 10:19 AM (#536051 - in reply to #536029)
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chp mohave desert patrol specs?

Wow, that thing was really spec'd out....
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61_Imperial
Posted 2017-03-16 11:40 AM (#536055 - in reply to #536029)
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sheesh, my head hurts now. Anyone brave enough to CALL!? haha

in case it gets deleted:

"one of a kind 1958 dodge d500 titled as a 57 one of 11 known to be titled like this alot of people like to use the term barn find or rare i'm not selling a 73 challenger 440 with 71 rt stripes NEVER EXISTED galven glovier said all pre 63 chyrysler records were lost in a flood! here's my knowledge of the car ist off i was a chemist with mobil i hold the patent for the chemical additive that makes unleaded fuel possible i'm 85 now! i bought the car from a vice president of a major gasoline co that specially ordered the car it was built for him for him with the highest engine specification at the time best performance the car was assembled and built to chp mohave desert patrol specs it has an owners manual warranty card and fuel log book from day one! been to northwest territories mexico city most states a rare historical peice no photos they never work doesnt run all complete needs floors and trunk outer body real good car haggarty says $6.600 i'll accept cash somewhere around that wally hansen clean title
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Greg P.
Posted 2017-03-16 1:04 PM (#536062 - in reply to #536029)
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The ad is funny to read, but... I think it could be worth checking out.

A quick google search on his name shows he's an 85 year old guy in Westport, CT and the address matches his listing.

In my book, once you've made it to your 80's, you deserve a lot of slack.

Also, he claims to have some documentation. If I were a bit closer, I'd go and check it out.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2017-03-17 8:54 PM (#536141 - in reply to #536062)
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That one of 11 is familiar. It could be a Super D500. The legit Coronet convertible Super D500 made an identical claim. If someone is in the area, it is worth checking.

Oh, and if he is 85, he can probably cut us some slack. We are the "wet behind the ears" dipsticks - and that's the truth!

Edited by Lancer Mike 2017-03-17 8:58 PM
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Swept57
Posted 2017-03-22 7:16 AM (#536434 - in reply to #536051)
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GregCon - 2017-03-16 10:19 AM

chp mohave desert patrol specs?

Wow, that thing was really spec'd out....


The mojave desert specs called for a dash mounted water bottle.
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moparsteve
Posted 2017-03-22 10:50 AM (#536442 - in reply to #536029)
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ok lookit - 13 birchwood ln westport conn.. cul de sac w/a big blue house and

yard.. hes pretty well off .. could be something back there check it out...
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ABloch
Posted 2017-03-22 11:44 AM (#536445 - in reply to #536029)
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rings and rings. no answering machine. Has anyone spoke with Wally yet?
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carfanatic
Posted 2017-03-22 12:25 PM (#536449 - in reply to #536029)
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The car has been sold.it was a d500 car
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moparsteve
Posted 2017-03-22 1:03 PM (#536451 - in reply to #536029)
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how many "super d500s are there? 11? not many... and who has one?

valuation? and if there were one found restorable, how much? are these as rare

as the regal lancer or the coveted d 501?
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Posted 2017-03-22 2:44 PM (#536456 - in reply to #536451)
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His car is sitting on his driveway too. Here is a picture of it. Looks like CR license trim and bumper guards.



(CT Dodge.jpg)



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Attachments CT Dodge.jpg (187KB - 64 downloads)
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2017-03-22 3:19 PM (#536458 - in reply to #536451)
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moparsteve - 2017-03-22 11:03 AM

how many "super d500s are there? 11? not many... and who has one?

valuation? and if there were one found restorable, how much? are these as rare

as the regal lancer or the coveted d 501?


There were 7,617 D500s produced in 1958, according to Jeffrey Godshall - I have never seen a breakout of how many of those were Supers, although Darryl Davis was working on it.
When a legitimate Super D500 Coronet convertible was recently advertised, the seller claimed, and I paraphrase here, only 11 legitimate Super D500s were know to survive today.
Sounds like hogwash to me, but a notable coincidence occurred in this seller's description (one of 11).

Known production numbers are one thing - and even they can be contentious, but "survivor numbers" are typically just wild conjecture and off-hand speculation, with some notable exceptions - this not being one of them.

1958 Super D500s are cool and rare, but I imaging they are not quite as rare as Regal Lancers (1,163) and almost positively not nearly as rare as the D501, D500-1, or mythical EFI Super D500.
As far as value goes, most price guides used to say "add 15% for D500 and add 35% for Super D500" - it is just a rough way to add value for various price guides.




Edited by Lancer Mike 2017-03-22 3:36 PM
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ABloch
Posted 2017-03-22 3:49 PM (#536459 - in reply to #536449)
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carfanatic - 2017-03-22 9:25 AM

The car has been sold.it was a d500 car


Were you able to speak with Wally or did you end up buying it?

Do tell.
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carfanatic
Posted 2017-03-22 4:57 PM (#536462 - in reply to #536029)
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Yeah I talked to him today.he said someone bought the car and was very happy to get it.I didn't buy it.it was a very short conversation.
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Swept57
Posted 2017-03-22 5:07 PM (#536464 - in reply to #536462)
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carfanatic - 2017-03-22 4:57 PM

Yeah I talked to him today.he said someone bought the car and was very happy to get it.I didn't buy it.it was a very short conversation.


Did you ask about the dual-quads a D500 would have?
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carfanatic
Posted 2017-03-25 2:16 PM (#536640 - in reply to #536029)
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No I didn't.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2017-03-25 11:08 PM (#536662 - in reply to #536458)
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Lancer Mike - 2017-03-22 3:19 PM

moparsteve - 2017-03-22 11:03 AM

how many "super d500s are there? 11? not many... and who has one?

valuation? and if there were one found restorable, how much? are these as rare

as the regal lancer or the coveted d 501?


There were 7,617 D500s produced in 1958, according to Jeffrey Godshall - I have never seen a breakout of how many of those were Supers, although Darryl Davis was working on it.
When a legitimate Super D500 Coronet convertible was recently advertised, the seller claimed, and I paraphrase here, only 11 legitimate Super D500s were know to survive today.
Sounds like hogwash to me, but a notable coincidence occurred in this seller's description (one of 11).

Known production numbers are one thing - and even they can be contentious, but "survivor numbers" are typically just wild conjecture and off-hand speculation, with some notable exceptions - this not being one of them.

1958 Super D500s are cool and rare, but I imaging they are not quite as rare as Regal Lancers (1,163) and almost positively not nearly as rare as the D501, D500-1, or mythical EFI Super D500.
As far as value goes, most price guides used to say "add 15% for D500 and add 35% for Super D500" - it is just a rough way to add value for various price guides.



I never regarded 58 Super Ds as all that rare. It seems to me Neil and I had multiple examples. Easy to identify. Power plants were coded right on the body plate!

Greg
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