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61_Imperial
Posted 2017-04-11 3:23 PM (#537874 - in reply to #537873)
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Build sheet is in!


"Engine 2 D-500 with dual exhaust"


This "2" is just an abbreviation for code 372 which is D500 engine.

Greg


Someone else is telling me for it to be a super D500 it would have to be a "4" there. and that 2 means regular D-500. Is this true?

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Posted 2017-04-11 3:54 PM (#537876 - in reply to #537874)
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Not quite sure where "there" is but if the reference is to code 374 it is certainly not Super D for 1957.

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Posted 2017-04-11 4:09 PM (#537877 - in reply to #537876)
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Code 49x is Super D for 57. This, of course, indicates there was more than one version (whatever that means) of Super Ds!!

Does anyone have a semi readable punch card for 57 Dodge? It would be nice to see the location on the card for box 49.

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Posted 2017-04-11 4:46 PM (#537882 - in reply to #537877)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-11 4:09 PM

Code 49x is Super D for 57. This, of course, indicates there was more than one version (whatever that means) of Super Ds!!

Does anyone have a semi readable punch card for 57 Dodge? It would be nice to see the location on the card for box 49.

Greg


If you are talking about the little "49" box, on mine it is two slots to the left of the "Tires" boxes (51,52). It is labelled "DESOTO xxx xxx" ( I can't quite make out the x's). Mine does not have any number above that box.

So which "2" on Ryan's card is the engine one?

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Posted 2017-04-11 5:46 PM (#537890 - in reply to #537882)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-11 4:09 PM

Code 49x is Super D for 57. This, of course, indicates there was more than one version (whatever that means) of Super Ds!!

Does anyone have a semi readable punch card for 57 Dodge? It would be nice to see the location on the card for box 49.

Greg


If you are talking about the little "49" box, on mine it is two slots to the left of the "Tires" boxes (51,52). It is labelled "DESOTO xxx xxx" ( I can't quite make out the x's). Mine does not have any number above that box.

So which "2" on Ryan's card is the engine one?



On the first page, the one Chrysler decoded. It lists "engine: 2 D-500 with dual exhausts."
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Posted 2017-04-11 5:48 PM (#537891 - in reply to #537890)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-11 4:09 PM

Code 49x is Super D for 57. This, of course, indicates there was more than one version (whatever that means) of Super Ds!!

Does anyone have a semi readable punch card for 57 Dodge? It would be nice to see the location on the card for box 49.

Greg


If you are talking about the little "49" box, on mine it is two slots to the left of the "Tires" boxes (51,52). It is labelled "DESOTO xxx xxx" ( I can't quite make out the x's). Mine does not have any number above that box.

So which "2" on Ryan's card is the engine one?



On the first page, the one Chrysler decoded. It lists "engine: 2 D-500 with dual exhausts."



Again, no idea if that is true or not. Just someone from the FB site that stated that.
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Posted 2017-04-11 6:08 PM (#537892 - in reply to #537861)
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The top right corner of the punch card has a 5 over 375 = b/up lights. A 2 over 372 = D 500 eng. A 6 over 366 = crash pad. A 1 over 361? = air foam front seat. And the 4 over 404 = w/s washers.

I can't explain why the punch card and my broadcast sheet differ regarding code 49x.

I am attaching a copy of the broadcast sheet facsimile that Neil and I used.
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Posted 2017-04-11 6:20 PM (#537894 - in reply to #537892)
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I should have said the top right corner of Ryan's punch -------//

If anyone has had trouble reading their broadcast sheets post should help.

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Posted 2017-04-11 6:30 PM (#537895 - in reply to #537892)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-11 6:08 PM

The top right corner of the punch card has a 5 over 375 = b/up lights. A 2 over 372 = D 500 eng. A 6 over 366 = crash pad. A 1 over 361? = air foam front seat. And the 4 over 404 = w/s washers.

I can't explain why the punch card and my broadcast sheet differ regarding code 49x.

I am attaching a copy of the broadcast sheet facsimile that Neil and I used.
Greg


My punchcard, and it looks like Ryan's is the same, has box 48 = DESOTO MLDG PKG, same as your document, but 49 and 50 are also DESOTO xxx xxx ( again, I can't make out the x's, but the DESOTO is pretty clear. Mine is April production as well.

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Posted 2017-04-11 6:36 PM (#537896 - in reply to #537894)
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I should have said the top right corner of Ryan's punch -------//

If anyone has had trouble reading their broadcast sheets post should help.

Greg


What is the other 2 all the way on the right, but below the top line?
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Posted 2017-04-11 6:57 PM (#537897 - in reply to #537896)
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I should have said the top right corner of Ryan's punch -------//

If anyone has had trouble reading their broadcast sheets post should help.

Greg


What is the other 2 all the way on the right, but below the top line?


David, I don't know. I've never seen a readable punch card. In this case, I couldn't read Ryan's card but I know the sales codes and I know that CHS only quotes the last digit of each code. It just looked to me that his card said those things!! I put two and two together!

The only way any of us are going to decode stuff!

It really would have been great if it had been a Super D.
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Posted 2017-04-11 7:31 PM (#537899 - in reply to #537897)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-11 6:57 PM

David, I don't know. I've never seen a readable punch card. In this case, I couldn't read Ryan's card but I know the sales codes and I know that CHS only quotes the last digit of each code. It just looked to me that his card said those things!! I put two and two together!

The only way any of us are going to decode stuff!

It really would have been great if it had been a Super D.
Greg


I have two different copies for my car and nether is very legible with the small stuff. One came from Darrel Davis via Neil, and the other I obtained directly from CHS. There are some details that you can make out on one and not the other and vice versa so I am probably in a better position than most.
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Posted 2017-04-11 8:21 PM (#537901 - in reply to #537897)
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I should have said the top right corner of Ryan's punch -------//

If anyone has had trouble reading their broadcast sheets post should help.

Greg


What is the other 2 all the way on the right, but below the top line?


David, I don't know. I've never seen a readable punch card. In this case, I couldn't read Ryan's card but I know the sales codes and I know that CHS only quotes the last digit of each code. It just looked to me that his card said those things!! I put two and two together!

The only way any of us are going to decode stuff!

It really would have been great if it had been a Super D.
Greg




So, you are 100% sure it's not a super D-500.??
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Posted 2017-04-11 9:20 PM (#537904 - in reply to #537901)
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I should have said the top right corner of Ryan's punch -------//

If anyone has had trouble reading their broadcast sheets post should help.

Greg


What is the other 2 all the way on the right, but below the top line?


David, I don't know. I've never seen a readable punch card. In this case, I couldn't read Ryan's card but I know the sales codes and I know that CHS only quotes the last digit of each code. It just looked to me that his card said those things!! I put two and two together!

The only way any of us are going to decode stuff!

It really would have been great if it had been a Super D.
Greg




So, you are 100% sure it's not a super D-500.??


None of us could be 100% sure but if it is coded as 372, I think CHS got it right.
Greg
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Posted 2017-04-11 9:58 PM (#537909 - in reply to #535467)
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Here's a screen shot from my IBM card with 49 column included, If would hazard a guess that the Desoto MWLG. indicates the the chrome teeth [bumperites] for the front, signifying the D500

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Swept57
Posted 2017-04-11 10:34 PM (#537917 - in reply to #537909)
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RUSTORICHES - 2017-04-11 9:58 PM

Here's a screen shot from my IBM card with 49 column included, If would hazard a guess that the Desoto MWLG. indicates the the chrome teeth [bumperites] for the front, signifying the D500


Box 49 on your card looks to say "DESOTO xxx EQUIP," which is not checked on your card. I don't know why any Dodge would have 46-50 checked. I am guessing maybe those are reserved for the 'sweeps?

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Posted 2017-04-11 10:55 PM (#537919 - in reply to #537909)
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Here's a screen shot from my IBM card with 49 column included, If would hazard a guess that the Desoto MWLG. indicates the the chrome teeth [bumperites] for the front, signifying the D500


Not sure about your point but this is interesting. I decode some of the equipment on this car as follows:

Heater/defroster, b/up lights, left outside mirror, day/night mirror, music master radio, handbrake warning light, map and glovebox lights, variable wipers, w/s washer, vanity mirror, air foam rear seat, stone shields, plastic steering wheel, spinner wheel covers, power steering and power brakes. Tires, I don't know those codes and that is all I can read.

How did I do?
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Posted 2017-04-11 11:11 PM (#537921 - in reply to #537917)
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Here's a screen shot from my IBM card with 49 column included, If would hazard a guess that the Desoto MWLG. indicates the the chrome teeth [bumperites] for the front, signifying the D500


Box 49 on your card looks to say "DESOTO xxx EQUIP," which is not checked on your card. I don't know why any Dodge would have 46-50 checked. I am guessing maybe those are reserved for the 'sweeps?


Yes, David, that is true and here is another fact. The first digit in recent BDY code examples is 2. This means Dodge 122" wheelbase. If it was 3 it would be a Firesweep. I think, not sure yet, but a 1 might be a Detroit built Dodge 118" wheelbase (Plodge).

Maybe some 57 Firesweep and 57 Detroit built Plodges could chime in here!?
Greg
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Posted 2017-04-12 9:06 AM (#537946 - in reply to #537921)
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Looking back on the threads from 2009 on Ryan's car and some of the recent comments, it appears that Neil believed this to be a Super-D based on the 27xx Body Number. Neil kept his decode cards very close to his chest, so we will never know for sure. As I mentioned previously, I think you should ask about the 27xx Body Number. My initial response for my D-501 from CHS was Body Number "unknown." I sent them a letter asking that they specifically ask for Darrell Davis to look at it. He did and they updated my info. Ryan, you should do the same.
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Posted 2017-04-13 12:02 AM (#538017 - in reply to #537946)
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Swept57 - 2017-04-12 9:06 AM

Looking back on the threads from 2009 on Ryan's car and some of the recent comments, it appears that Neil believed this to be a Super-D based on the 27xx Body Number. Neil kept his decode cards very close to his chest, so we will never know for sure. As I mentioned previously, I think you should ask about the 27xx Body Number. My initial response for my D-501 from CHS was Body Number "unknown." I sent them a letter asking that they specifically ask for Darrell Davis to look at it. He did and they updated my info. Ryan, you should do the same.


Based on your info, I would assume that the previously unknown "Body Number" for your D-501 would be 2442. Do you want me to "decode" each digit on this forum?!

BTW, I got into my notes and based on the CHS report that Ryan got I am pretty sure I know what 27xx really means. By all means, check with CHS. Any factory info on this would be appreciated.

In addition, I will be emailing photo copies of actual Broadcast Sheets showing box 49 as Super D-500 and, yes, you will recognize Neils writing on them. All dated back in the early 1990s when he and I did the leg work on this stuff!!
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Posted 2017-04-13 11:00 AM (#538039 - in reply to #538017)
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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-13 12:02 AM

Based on your info, I would assume that the previously unknown "Body Number" for your D-501 would be 2442. Do you want me to "decode" each digit on this forum?!

BTW, I got into my notes and based on the CHS report that Ryan got I am pretty sure I know what 27xx really means. By all means, check with CHS. Any factory info on this would be appreciated.

In addition, I will be emailing photo copies of actual Broadcast Sheets showing box 49 as Super D-500 and, yes, you will recognize Neils writing on them. All dated back in the early 1990s when he and I did the leg work on this stuff!!
Greg


I didn't want to hijack Ryan's thread with my stuff unless I felt it pertinent to him, but sure I would be interested in a decode! Neil provided additional info that is not in the CHS report, so I would be interested in your take on it! One other "unknown" on my report was the tire code "32," but Neil was able to provide that. I don't remember of the top of my head what it was other then 15" tires. I'll send my card when I get home today. Dave
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Posted 2017-04-13 12:01 PM (#538042 - in reply to #537946)
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Swept57 - 2017-04-12 9:06 AM Neil kept his decode cards very close to his chest , so we will never know for sure.


I never met Neil but I am sure that he was a great guy. It's just too bad he didn't leave a lasting legacy of information regarding D-500s that everyone could access and learn from after he passed.

I say that because a) I have a 56 D500 and have questions that Neil might have answered for me and b) I have personally created many (100s ?) of info posts regarding my other (soon to be previous) passion the 1992-97 Audi S4 and S6 inline 5, 20 valve, turbo sports sedans (know as UrS4s and UrS6s where = "Ur" = German for original) (mine soon to be sold)

For example:

Engine Bay Device Map: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/22625.phtml (scroll to the links under the labeled diagram)

UrS4/S6 Systems and Chassis Map: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/24724.phtml (scroll to the links under the labeled diagram - admittedly, they need some organization)

Which are just two of the links that I provide to that three UrS-related forums on a monthly basis:

Example Monthly reminder list: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/341427.phtml (the live maps lost their host recently and no longer work at least for now)

I know it is much easier to create an info archive with effectively a single mark with a single engine compared to four or five lines, running at least two basic chassis (55/56 king pins/springs and 57/61 torsion bars), two different engine types (hemi and polyspherical) and many displacements, 270, 315, 325, 326, 331, 341, 350, 354, and 392 (and ones I forgot?), but still...There should be some way to deposit the collective wisdom of this forum. "Search" here helps a bit, if you are lucky, but most often I do not find what I am looking for and have to ask yet another Noobie question. Often one of the responders points me to a thread that "Search" did not seem to show up.

Even if Neil had willed his D500 archives to another enthusiastic forum member, his work would have lived on. As it is, there are snippets that turn up from time to time, as in this thread.

Sorry Neil.





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Posted 2017-04-14 3:17 AM (#538097 - in reply to #537921)
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Here's a screen shot from my IBM card with 49 column included, If would hazard a guess that the Desoto MWLG. indicates the the chrome teeth [bumperites] for the front, signifying the D500


Box 49 on your card looks to say "DESOTO xxx EQUIP," which is not checked on your card. I don't know why any Dodge would have 46-50 checked. I am guessing maybe those are reserved for the 'sweeps?


Yes, David, that is true and here is another fact. The first digit in recent BDY code examples is 2. This means Dodge 122" wheelbase. If it was 3 it would be a Firesweep. I think, not sure yet, but a 1 might be a Detroit built Dodge 118" wheelbase (Plodge).

Maybe some 57 Firesweep and 57 Detroit built Plodges could chime in here!?
Greg



1957 Dodge Kingsway and DeSoto Diplomats were built at Lynch Road or Evansville, not Hamtramck. So their IBM cards would be Plymouth versions.


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Posted 2017-04-14 5:27 PM (#538121 - in reply to #537873)
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The columns numbers are along the bottom of the IBM card. The upper area is like a summary of what is punched in the columns. It also makes it easier to determine what equipment is supposed to be on the car.

Column 32 (Transmission) has 3 punched for 323 - Torqueflite transmission.

There is an area with five columns labelled as "SPEC EQUIP". Those columns are 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40.

Columns 36, 37, and 40 have holes punched in them for the equipment installed on the car -
361 - Airfoam seat - front
366 - Instrument panel pad
372 - D-500 engine
375 - Back up lights
404 - Windshield washers

The next columns punched are 51 and 52 -
510
525
The two together make 05. which is for the 8.00x14 Black Side Wall tires

Column 66 (Axle Ratio) is 663, with a second punch above the numbers, column 67 (Route) is 675, columns 68 to 71 are for SPEC ORDER No. with holes 0 5 4 0 punched.

The final section, columns 72 to 79, are for the SERIAL NO. with holes for 3 5 2 3 7 4 7 6

Column 80 is labelled TRACER and has a hole for 2 punched.

Across the top row on the card, you can see numbers 1, 6, 2, and 5 printed. The numbers are over labels for columns 361, 366, 372, and 375. The entry for 404 is in the next grouping of options just below. You can see a "4" printed in above "W/S WASHERS" and "404". There is "05" over the "TIRES" with "51" and "52" column labels. And way over on the right side of that section is a "2" printed over "TR"

Going in the other direction the is a "5" over "RTE", "3" over "32" and "0540" over "SPECIAL ORDER".

Interesting that this car does not have a few of the common options - heater / defroster, radio (39x) or exterior mirrors (38x). But the card does confirm this car was built with the D-500 option (372), as does the engine number.

Would be nice if we could see the left side of the card.

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Posted 2017-04-14 11:30 PM (#538144 - in reply to #538121)
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Chrycoman - 2017-04-14 5:27 PM

But the card does confirm this car was built with the D-500 option (372), as does the engine number.





Bill, thanks for the input.
I have info on three Super Ds and their engine number prefixes are identical the those of D-500s.

As mentioned much earlier "the proof" could be carb numbers and their appropriate date codes, brackets, intake details and, of course, authenticity from CHS records. AND, any available Broadcast Sheets from a given car!

Been working on this since the mid 1980s. If it was easy --------- we would have nailed it years ago!!---- .

1958 Super Ds are a piece of cake compared to 57!!

Greg


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Posted 2017-04-15 9:47 AM (#538154 - in reply to #538121)
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Interesting that this car does not have a few of the common options - heater / defroster, radio (39x) or exterior mirrors (38x). But the card does confirm this car was built with the D-500 option (372), as does the engine number.

Would be nice if we could see the left side of the card.



No heater? That seems odd for a highway patrol car. No radio makes sense though. Pictures indicate it did have a heater. Dave



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Posted 2017-04-17 10:03 AM (#538232 - in reply to #538121)
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Chrycoman - 2017-04-14 5:27 PM

Interesting that this car does not have a few of the common options - heater / defroster, radio (39x) or exterior mirrors (38x). But the card does confirm this car was built with the D-500 option (372), as does the engine number.

Would be nice if we could see the left side of the card.



Looks like David uploaded a picture of the left side, thank you sir! That is odd, the car does have a heater. strange the build card doesnt mention that. It appears to all be factory installed. It is a mopar unit.

Also, the lack of mirrors is because of the spotlight. MHP installed aftermarket mirrors on the doors behind the spotlight, so it wouldnt blind them if turned on. You can see it added in this picture.



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Posted 2017-04-17 10:46 AM (#538236 - in reply to #535467)
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figured you guys may like this; I found this while laying on the floor looking up at the bottom of the dashboard:





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Posted 2017-04-17 10:49 AM (#538237 - in reply to #535467)
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Here are a few more pictures of the car:





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LD3 Greg
Posted 2017-04-17 10:35 PM (#538280 - in reply to #538236)
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61_Imperial - 2017-04-17 10:46 AM

figured you guys may like this; I found this while laying on the floor looking up at the bottom of the dashboard:



The Police Car market is significant and there will likely be numerous details regarding " regular production options", such as heater/defroster/blower, where the police would specify something a little different. Maybe a higher than normal fan motor capacity?! It would be interesting to know what that "special order" was all about. It probably included the 12" brakes.

I would be very interested to examine that instrument panel wiring harness if nobody has messed with it. In addition, I would think there would be provision for the roof top mounted electrical equipment. The car was probably shipped with appropriate wiring up front under the headliner. Could be why "Police" was written under the dash. Remind the line to wire it properly?

Ryan, you have a very interesting restoration subject! See if the torsion bars are 1635956/7 and the very bottom leaf of each rear spring will have a part number embossed. Maybe R and L springs will have different numbers. I will post pics of numbers on other springs if you want.
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Posted 2017-04-17 10:51 PM (#538282 - in reply to #538280)
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I found them quickly so here they are.

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Posted 2017-04-18 10:20 AM (#538302 - in reply to #538280)
Subject: RE: 1957 Dodge Coronet D-500 Data Plate Decode



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LD3 Greg - 2017-04-17 10:35 PM

61_Imperial - 2017-04-17 10:46 AM

figured you guys may like this; I found this while laying on the floor looking up at the bottom of the dashboard:



The Police Car market is significant and there will likely be numerous details regarding " regular production options", such as heater/defroster/blower, where the police would specify something a little different. Maybe a higher than normal fan motor capacity?! It would be interesting to know what that "special order" was all about. It probably included the 12" brakes.

I would be very interested to examine that instrument panel wiring harness if nobody has messed with it. In addition, I would think there would be provision for the roof top mounted electrical equipment. The car was probably shipped with appropriate wiring up front under the headliner. Could be why "Police" was written under the dash. Remind the line to wire it properly?

Ryan, you have a very interesting restoration subject! See if the torsion bars are 1635956/7 and the very bottom leaf of each rear spring will have a part number embossed. Maybe R and L springs will have different numbers. I will post pics of numbers on other springs if you want.
Greg






It has the large brakes for sure:





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Posted 2017-04-18 10:22 AM (#538304 - in reply to #535467)
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(and sway bar on a Coronet)

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Posted 2017-04-18 6:26 PM (#538325 - in reply to #538304)
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61_Imperial - 2017-04-18 10:22 AM

(and sway bar on a Coronet)



Yes. I noticed! And that is what I think the body code 27xx is about. I don't think it includes the brakes.

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Posted 2017-04-18 8:33 PM (#538331 - in reply to #538325)
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Are they 12 x 2.5?
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Posted 2017-04-19 11:05 AM (#538386 - in reply to #538331)
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Swept57 - 2017-04-18 8:33 PM

Are they 12 x 2.5?


Yes, the same drum as the '58 New Yorker I parted out.
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Posted 2017-04-20 12:34 PM (#538453 - in reply to #538386)
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Removed the speedo last night. Appears all original and I belive Dodge did not "certify" them until 58 or 59. 

 

anything special about these numbers on the back of the speedo?

 

 

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Posted 2017-04-20 1:04 PM (#538457 - in reply to #538453)
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61_Imperial - 2017-04-20 6:34 PM

Removed the speedo last night. Appears all original and I belive Dodge did not "certify" them until 58 or 59.

anything special about these numbers on the back of the speedo?

 

According to the Stewart-Warner Service News, Dodge Speedometers Review, I have, it is an early model speedometer. So, it is not a police special or anything like a calibrated speedometer





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Posted 2017-04-20 4:58 PM (#538468 - in reply to #538457)
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D500Jim - 2017-04-20 1:04 PM

61_Imperial - 2017-04-20 6:34 PM

Removed the speedo last night. Appears all original and I belive Dodge did not "certify" them until 58 or 59.

anything special about these numbers on the back of the speedo?

 

According to the Stewart-Warner Service News, Dodge Speedometers Review, I have, it is an early model speedometer. So, it is not a police special or anything like a calibrated speedometer





I have not seen a 57 dodge with a "certified" speedo. does anyone have any proof that Chrysler used "certified" speedos in 1957??

Thanks!
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Posted 2017-04-20 5:35 PM (#538471 - in reply to #538453)
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61_Imperial - 2017-04-20 12:34 PM
Removed the speedo last night. Appears all original and I belive Dodge did not "certify" them until 58 or 59. Anything special about these numbers on the back of the speedo?


Obviously you figured out the 572J stamp on the back.

On Page 5 of Serge's impressive "Make up your car" thread, there is lots of speedo info that might apply to your 57:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23691&...

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Posted 2017-04-20 11:05 PM (#538488 - in reply to #535467)
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It appears that the hole in the roof and the left door were properly sealed before this used car was available to the general public. Who knows what else was "removed" as part of this process?

Check out the left kick panel area. There are a couple 1/4" square holes punched there. Is there a circuit breaker and/or clip still there? Is there evidence that clips had previously been installed and later removed in those holes?

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Posted 2017-04-21 9:13 AM (#538503 - in reply to #535467)
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Somewhere I saw a picture of a 57 police car that had a separate round calibrated speedometer mounted on the dash.
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Posted 2017-04-21 11:57 AM (#538509 - in reply to #538503)
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Swept57 - 2017-04-21 9:13 AM Somewhere I saw a picture of a 57 police car that had a separate round calibrated speedometer mounted on the dash.


Something like this?





Found these while looking for the above:

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Posted 2017-04-21 12:11 PM (#538512 - in reply to #535467)
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Yep, just like that!
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Posted 2017-06-06 2:42 PM (#541625 - in reply to #535467)
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I found a few more pictures:

Check this out, the "watchdog of the highway" ad was done in 1957 in a local Missouri magazine to show off the troopers new cars and what they do on average.

I zoomed in on the 57, and it has a regular DODGE steering wheel, not plymouth. Odd, no?

My 57 has a plymouth wheel, which is "correct"

Also, the other pictures are the 1959 Coronet that Missouri owns.

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Posted 2017-08-24 7:57 PM (#546941 - in reply to #535551)
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Hi All...I'm new to the Forum. Talking about Super D-500 cars. I listed the Black and Gold Dodge Super D-500 in Hemmings that was being discussed by RUSTORICHES.
If you have any questions? please ask. I listed the car for a friend....This is a very nice car. He also has another one as well.
Also curious about this car is that the engine # starts with KD 501....What does that mean...A 354 engine. Needless to say I'd like to discuss this car more with all of you. Thanks...Bernie

I have photos of the data plate and engine #. If I figure out how to add pics I will////Thanks again for any help.
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Posted 2017-08-24 8:24 PM (#546943 - in reply to #546941)
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vintageaut - 2017-08-24 4:57 PM

Hi All...I'm new to the Forum. Talking about Super D-500 cars. I listed the Black and Gold Dodge Super D-500 in Hemmings that was being discussed by RUSTORICHES.
If you have any questions? please ask. I listed the car for a friend....This is a very nice car. He also has another one as well.
Also curious about this car is that the engine # starts with KD 501....What does that mean...A 354 engine. Needless to say I'd like to discuss this car more with all of you. Thanks...Bernie

I have photos of the data plate and engine #. If I figure out how to add pics I will////Thanks again for any help.


Contact Chrysler Historical and get a copy of the cars original build sheet to authenticate it. It's cheap and the only way to be sure of what the car actually is. Too many years have gone by where an engine could have failed and been replaced, odds and ends added, options added, "restoration" done, it would be foolish to take anyones "word" on anything. The CHS build sheet will tell you exactly what the car actually IS.
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Posted 2017-08-30 1:49 PM (#547360 - in reply to #546941)
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vintageaut - 2017-08-24 7:57 PM

Hi All...I'm new to the Forum. Talking about Super D-500 cars. I listed the Black and Gold Dodge Super D-500 in Hemmings that was being discussed by RUSTORICHES.
If you have any questions? please ask. I listed the car for a friend....This is a very nice car. He also has another one as well.
Also curious about this car is that the engine # starts with KD 501....What does that mean...A 354 engine. Needless to say I'd like to discuss this car more with all of you. Thanks...Bernie

I have photos of the data plate and engine #. If I figure out how to add pics I will////Thanks again for any help.


Yes, please post pictures of the data plate and engine the number. Pics are easy to add, just make sure they are less than 350KB. Just post the full engine number too.
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