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ram300
Posted 2017-03-04 8:38 PM (#535174)
Subject: Squealing drum brake



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The right front drum on my '55 Chrysler has got a heck of a squeal to it, usually more under lighter breaking. The car pulls up straight and stops fine. These are the early type brakes with the large 3/4 adjustment bolts . I have pulled it apart and from what I've found so far is that one of the brake shoes where the eccentric cam (brake adjuster) contacts the inside of the shoe is slightly gouged out. The other shoe is fine. So it appears when I'm hitting the brakes this (front) shoe is contacting with the aduster cam. Whereas it should be moving away from the adjuster when the hydraulic system takes over and pushes it out toward the drum right?

Anybody out there had the same or similar issue? Any advice appreciated.

This squealing is driving me nuts.

Thanks
Owen
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59 in Calif
Posted 2017-03-07 7:19 PM (#535380 - in reply to #535174)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake


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Squealing Chry brakes was a common problem back in the late 50's. Usually didn't start squealing until the car was a little older. The fix at the time was to do a semi-fine grind on the drums. In other words, grind it a little bit rough. It was a bit hard on lining but stopped that god awful squealing. As a temporary fix, take some 80 grit emery cloth and sand the glaze off the lining and try it. See if the squealing comes back. Also check the service manual to see if you are turning the adjuster in the right direction. Jerry
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mobileparts
Posted 2017-03-07 7:33 PM (#535384 - in reply to #535174)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake


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I have ++ Asbestos ++ Brake Shoes -- if maybe someone relined them with this new friction material that is WAAAAAAAAAAy too rugged when stopping -- as it grips, grabs, and shreds......
++ Asbestos ++ is the ONLY material you or anyone wants in the 1946 - 1961 Chryslers, DeSotos, Dodges, and Plymouths.....

You are welcome to call me -- Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935.... New York.......
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stinky
Posted 2017-03-12 3:39 AM (#535767 - in reply to #535174)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake


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I'm needing some new shoes for my Aussie 59 Dodge, same problem they are squeeling big time. I was told Raybestos are the ones to deal with, is that correct? And can you still buy Asbestos shoes?
Cheers Pete.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2017-03-12 1:06 PM (#535793 - in reply to #535380)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake



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59 in Calif - 2017-03-07 5:19 PM

Squealing Chry brakes was a common problem back in the late 50's. Usually didn't start squealing until the car was a little older. The fix at the time was to do a semi-fine grind on the drums. In other words, grind it a little bit rough. It was a bit hard on lining but stopped that god awful squealing. As a temporary fix, take some 80 grit emery cloth and sand the glaze off the lining and try it. See if the squealing comes back. Also check the service manual to see if you are turning the adjuster in the right direction. Jerry


I had this same issue with my '58 Cadillac when I bought it. The brake shoes were original and had lots of wear left in them. But they had turned rock hard over the years, and squealed like crazy. Finally, the only cure was to replace them with new shoes.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2017-03-12 1:09 PM (#535794 - in reply to #535174)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake



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You can still buy asbestos shoes. Just be prepared when working with them, and the old brake dust. Approved N95 mask, gloves, coveralls...and lots of brake cleaner! NO vacuums or air hoses! And wash all your clothes after. Sorry...I work in an industry with lots of asbestos exposure, and I go a little overboard sometimes...
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matte
Posted 2017-03-15 3:53 PM (#536003 - in reply to #535767)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake



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stinky - 2017-03-12 3:39 AM

I'm needing some new shoes for my Aussie 59 Dodge, same problem they are squeeling big time. I was told Raybestos are the ones to deal with, is that correct? And can you still buy Asbestos shoes?
Cheers Pete.


Paul, new asbestos in any shape or form is banned in Australia. This all happened in the early 2000's and clutches and brakes were then made of non asbestos material. If you import them and customs does their spot check, they could be with held then destroyed. Only a slight chance they spot it but......... Also if you get mechanics to do wheel or brake work you should tell them for their own health..

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stinky
Posted 2017-03-16 5:21 AM (#536040 - in reply to #536003)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake


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matte - 2017-03-15 6:53 AM

stinky - 2017-03-12 3:39 AM

I'm needing some new shoes for my Aussie 59 Dodge, same problem they are squeeling big time. I was told Raybestos are the ones to deal with, is that correct? And can you still buy Asbestos shoes?
Cheers Pete.


Paul, new asbestos in any shape or form is banned in Australia. This all happened in the early 2000's and clutches and brakes were then made of non asbestos material. If you import them and customs does their spot check, they could be with held then destroyed. Only a slight chance they spot it but......... Also if you get mechanics to do wheel or brake work you should tell them for their own health..



Hey Matte, thought that would be the case mate. I wouldn't like to be dealing with that stuff either. Will search for a replacement set as my brake guys said they only have one type and they said they would not be suitable for the Dodge, no better than the ones that are in there now.
Cheers Peter.

Edited by stinky 2017-03-16 5:23 AM
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matte
Posted 2017-03-16 5:36 PM (#536074 - in reply to #535174)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake



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Oooops I called you Paul.....

I just realised mine probably are as well.

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Greg P.
Posted 2017-04-27 12:39 PM (#538992 - in reply to #535794)
Subject: Re: Squealing drum brake



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miquelonbrad - 2017-03-12 1:09 PM

You can still buy asbestos shoes. Just be prepared when working with them, and the old brake dust. Approved N95 mask, gloves, coveralls...and lots of brake cleaner! NO vacuums or air hoses! And wash all your clothes after. Sorry...I work in an industry with lots of asbestos exposure, and I go a little overboard sometimes...


I didn't know that you could buy asbestos shoes anywhere these days. Who sells them? Not that I'd want any.
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