The Forward Look Network | ||
| ||
1957 Plymouth Sport Suburban "V800" (or not) Jump to page : 1 2 3 Now viewing page 2 [50 messages per page] | View previous thread :: View next thread |
Forward Look NON-Technical Discussions -> Members Rides | Message format |
56D500boy |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 9854 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Interesting: | ||
firedome |
| ||
Expert Posts: 3153 Location: NY & VT | Yeah, Ford wasn't given credit for their own Forward Look! | ||
springsweptwing |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1140 Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | [QUOTE I've also included two photos from the facebook ad when the car was being sold. Unfortunately the front bumper (including the wings and that rare accessory bar) and a few other bits were parted out before Jim bought it. http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=65008&... Edited by springsweptwing 2017-03-19 5:57 PM | ||
mstrug |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 6487 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | That's a link for a Plymouth part. | ||
springsweptwing |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1140 Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | ? Yes the front bumper guard as was originally in place on the picture? | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | firedome - 2017-03-13 1:18 PM Yeah, Ford wasn't given credit for their own Forward Look!
the 57 lincoln was the best looking car from ford in 57 and still couldnt compete...
(1957%20Lincoln.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1957%20Lincoln.jpg (189KB - 121 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Thank you for the link to the bumper accessory bar, Paul. I've got it on my watch list. I suppose we will see what it sells for. It would be a great piece to help put things back to original. | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | I sold a nos one for 100$, they are rare but Christine people don't want them. I have another one in the basement but I think I needs chromed. Mine is not horrible, I will sell it for say 50$ shipped if you dont get that one. I think its probably around 100$ to chrome it Edited by mikes2nd 2017-03-20 11:13 AM | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | here is some pics of the one I have. good core at least, but my NOS one I had would have to rechromed anyways. It was cheap chrome. (bumper4.jpg) (bumper1.jpg) (bumper2.jpg) (bumper3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- bumper4.jpg (208KB - 131 downloads) bumper1.jpg (201KB - 114 downloads) bumper2.jpg (185KB - 136 downloads) bumper3.jpg (239KB - 137 downloads) | ||
mstrug |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 6487 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | I'll take it. PM sent soon.Marc. | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Heh Jessica has first dibs. if she doesn't want its yours. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Sorry, Marc. I grabbed it up. | ||
RUSTORICHES |
| ||
Extreme Veteran Posts: 494 Location: Alberta | I first thought this was your suburban when I spotted it on the net but a closer look it is not but……almost twins (398267_14725664_1957_Plymouth_Sport+Suburban.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 398267_14725664_1957_Plymouth_Sport+Suburban.jpg (64KB - 112 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | That is my Suburban. It's a photo of it sitting in a field at Hernandos Hideaway. Somewhere between 2002-2014. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | She still has the Oregon plates... this is from the day I bought her. (IMG_0503.PNG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0503.PNG (112KB - 129 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Picked up the inner fenders and core support from the sand blaster this weekend. Looks like another painting project in my future. (IMG_0516.JPG) (IMG_0514.JPG) (IMG_0515.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0516.JPG (151KB - 104 downloads) IMG_0514.JPG (117KB - 131 downloads) IMG_0515.JPG (123KB - 138 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Lucky you. I've been spending a lot of work on mine to almost bring them into paintable condition. But I had to weld in a bunch of holes and fix dents as well. Did they charge you extra to remove the undercoating? | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | No extra charge. Not even to remove the copious amounts of asphalt that had collected on the drivers side. Luckily, he was able to get it all off. Nasty stuff. I do have a little bit of repair work to do beneath the battery tray. (IMG_0528.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0528.JPG (84KB - 125 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Painted the spare tire cover to match the body tonight. Blends in so much better than the white. I also was gifted a pair of park lenses for my birthday. She's slowly coming along. We can make more progress if this nicer weather sticks around. (IMG_0544.JPG) (IMG_0545.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0544.JPG (136KB - 109 downloads) IMG_0545.JPG (133KB - 114 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | going to leave the patina? | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Yes, I like it. Maybe later down the road I will paint it. | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | yeah not bad, kind of weird how the front end is gone and the back of the car survived. Like it had a the front end replaced? | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | The way it was explained to me... they painted the whole car Coral and then masked off the roof and color sweep, and sprayed the rest white. The front clip was not painted with two coats of paint, and so the paint did not survive as it did on the body. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | It was 56 yesterday so I took the opportunity to etch prime my inner fenders and core support. They're ready for some black satin paint. I also bought some copper nickel brake lines and placed a small order to Gary Goers for some rubber do-dads under the hood. Not much progress lately as we have all been fighting a stomach bug/virus of sorts. I've also been putting extra hours in at work to put some sneakers on this chick. She'll be getting a set of wide white radials. (IMG_0584.JPG) (IMG_0583.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0584.JPG (119KB - 114 downloads) IMG_0583.JPG (117KB - 132 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | I am way behind your progress.. (teardown.jpg) Attachments ---------------- teardown.jpg (90KB - 111 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | I feel like I really haven't gotten anything done in the last couple weeks. I was hoping to have my motor installed by now, but it's still in the back of my jeep. :lol: | ||
scooter0910 |
| ||
Veteran Posts: 157 Location: bountiful, Utah | Congratulations on such a great car, and such a great labor of love you are contributing to it! My dad bought a 57 Plymouth 9 pass Sport Suburban new when I was just a kid. It was ginger and white, and your car reminds me so much of his. I have wonderful memories riding in the 3rd seat all the way to Utah as a 10 year old and having every trucker toot their horn as we passed. They responded so well to my arm gesture back then, plus rear facing 3 rd seats were a new novelty in 1957. I have a 57 DeSoto Firesweep Explorer wagon that is next on my list to restore. It is as close as I'm going to get to the Sport Suburban. I was raised in the Scotia, Burnt Hills area on Route 50. Are you anywhere close? Kindest regards, Scott in Utah | ||
Powerflite |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Rear facing 3rd row seats are quite a novelty today too! My kids rode in the 3rd seat of my Satellite wagon for quite a while when they were younger and enjoyed being able to interact with other people on the road. Once they reached teenage years though, the novelty of it wore off.... | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | My heart has always been with Desoto, but I wasn't able to come across one that I liked or met my budget. So I settled for the most badass Plymouth I could find. My kids are looking forward to sitting in the rear-facing seat. The floors need a little work back there before they can climb in, though. Right now my progress is slowly going backwards. I tore apart my brakes to swap the spindles to the other side. With the calipers at the rear of rotor they won't clear the bump-stop brace on the frame. Rather than cutting a notch to accommodate my caliper, I'm just going to switch out the spindle sides and mount the caliper to the front of the rotor. Easy enough to do, but frustrating all the same. Failure= knowledge, right? (IMG_0645.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0645.JPG (191KB - 128 downloads) | ||
58coupe |
| ||
Expert Posts: 1739 Location: Alaska | Don't the Ply. wagons have a front sway bar? I took one off a 57 Chrysler for my 58 Plymouth. IIRC someone had a clearance problem with a disc conversion and their front sway bar ( just in case you decide to add one) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | I think that the 58 has a sway bar and maybe the Fury does for 57? My wagon does not have one. Yet. I'm back in business with the brakes. Swapped out the spindles and bolted it back together with the calipers mounted forward of the rotor. Now I can run my copper nickel brake lines. I'll be picking up a proportioning valve for it this week. SSBC makes one that includes the brake light switch which is nice. As far as the strut rod is concerned, it does need to be cut to accommodate the disc setup. That's an easy chop at an angle on the end with the cutoff wheel. Tranny is next on my list, and then I should be (hopefully) putting the motor in it this week or next. (IMG_0649.JPG) (IMG_0650.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0649.JPG (162KB - 113 downloads) IMG_0650.JPG (110KB - 112 downloads) | ||
Swept57 |
| ||
Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | It's coming along really nicely Jessica! I haven't been to my storage garage for a few months, but I hope to get over there this weekend. I'll see if I still have those 57 air cleaners. At one time I had 4 sets. One is for my D-501 and I know I sold the two poorest condition sets, but I can't remember if I sold the remaining set. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | That would be great, thank you! I hope everyone had a nice Easter weekend. I celebrated mine with a sinus infection and the flu. Pulled the transmission from her perch, and remained in one piece despite it looking like a massacre happened beneath the car. I dropped the ratchet on my forehead (square between the eyes, too), and nearly put another hole through the floor pan with my elbow when the cotter pin decided to let go as I was removing it from the e-brake cable pin. Then the transmission slid off the jack sideways and bled all over the floor. Just one of those days, I guess! (IMG_0663.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0663.JPG (154KB - 123 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | step 1 in transmission removal... remove pan and drains transmission | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Yeah... hindsight is 20/20. I'm still fairly congested, but spent some time in the shop. Jeff helped me cut the idler arm out (the bolt was seized) and pressed the new bushing in. Thanks again for the bushing, Mike! I've got to get a new bolt and then I can install it back in the car. (IMG_0667.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0667.JPG (114KB - 111 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Went to spring Carlisle this weekend and picked up a fair amount of goodies for the wagon. I picked up a bumper wing front bumper from a friend, a brake booster that's not torn and still pliable, some air filters and a an air cleaner to cut down to make half of my dual quad setup (I have the other half here at the house). We also picked up some more shop supplies. Shows like these are perfect for that: $15 for a bag of 200 shop rags, cast blast, etc. I am still recovering from surgery I had last week, but the weather is nearing perfection and the days are getting longer. Hoping to get more progress done so I can button up the front end and get the rear up in the air. (IMG_0713.JPG) (IMG_0712.JPG) (IMG_0714.JPG) (IMG_0715.JPG) (IMG_0716.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0713.JPG (131KB - 127 downloads) IMG_0712.JPG (312KB - 103 downloads) IMG_0714.JPG (231KB - 120 downloads) IMG_0715.JPG (310KB - 118 downloads) IMG_0716.JPG (116KB - 128 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Received my Gary Goers order on Friday the 28th. It took about a month for my order to process-- from mailing my forms and check in to receiving it at my doorstep. I'm very pleased with what I receive and can't wait to get it all on the car. I had surgery a week ago so I haven't really made any progress on it. It's been a slow, painful recovery. (IMG_0772.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0772.JPG (92KB - 110 downloads) | ||
RUSTORICHES |
| ||
Extreme Veteran Posts: 494 Location: Alberta | What a banquet !! Did I read your post correctly Your cutting down that air cleaner for your dual quad set up? That's a big sacrifice.I have a set of fiberglass air cleaners for that type of set up that you could probably talk me out of on trade for your original,"just a thought" Edited by RUSTORICHES 2017-05-01 7:34 AM | ||
grunau |
| ||
Extreme Veteran Posts: 444 Location: North of the 49th | Hi Here's a set I made...same formula (dualsmade.jpg) Attachments ---------------- dualsmade.jpg (23KB - 120 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Nice. How did you make the new lid? Also, what did you do at the transition from the tube to the original lid? | ||
grunau |
| ||
Extreme Veteran Posts: 444 Location: North of the 49th | Hi For the lid I salvaged the Air cleaner "base" plate from the front of the silencer can this gave me the outside seat for the air filter , I cut a flat piece of sheet stock and formed the depression for the wingnut and then I trimmed out the salvaged base plate and butt welded then together. For the transition inside the original lid which is now the air cleaner body I took some flat sheet stock, rolled the end and then brought the ends together to form the tube, slipped the tube through the "body" and welded around the "roll" inside. The wingnut support strut was salvaged from the original can and the welded in place . The original filters fit like they should. I' not sure how Jessica will be doing hers for the wagon but that's how I did it.... Edited by grunau 2017-05-01 11:23 AM | ||
Swept57 |
| ||
Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | grunau - 2017-05-01 10:47 AM Hi Here's a set I made...same formula Those look nice! | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Those look great, grenau. I think I prefer metal to fiberglass, though, so I will keep my air cleaner Frankenstein's. Cleaning up the firewall some more. I decided that I'd rather salvage my original firewall grommets than use Gary's. His are a nice go-to if yours are missing or broken, but I think the originals are cleaner overall. A friend suggested using gojo to clean them up, and that seems to work nicely. (IMG_0775.JPG) (IMG_0776.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0775.JPG (91KB - 107 downloads) IMG_0776.JPG (109KB - 110 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Took on a new project: the brake booster. My original booster bellows were badly torn. I found a unit with decent rubber at Carlisle, and decided to make the swap. My zinc plating, while dull and lifeless on the outside, looks excellent inside. I bought some cadmium (gold zinc) paint from Eastwood to try out, so once that is here, I can zip everything back together. As for the O-rings inside my booster, everything was still soft and pliable. I cleaned everything up and gave it a nice coating of lithium grease to help it seal-- especially where that copper valve fitting is. Has anyone tried the zinc aerosol from Eastwood? (IMG_0807.JPG) (IMG_0808.JPG) (IMG_0810.JPG) (IMG_0809.JPG) (IMG_0811.JPG) (IMG_0812.JPG) (IMG_0813.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0807.JPG (125KB - 109 downloads) IMG_0808.JPG (164KB - 128 downloads) IMG_0810.JPG (135KB - 116 downloads) IMG_0809.JPG (169KB - 99 downloads) IMG_0811.JPG (174KB - 101 downloads) IMG_0812.JPG (169KB - 121 downloads) IMG_0813.JPG (130KB - 87 downloads) | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | The Eastwood cadmium paint set I ordered arrived, and so I spent a couple hours painting and reassembling my brake booster. It turned out really nice, and I would recommend their cadmium paint kit as a good alternative to zinc plating. (IMG_0855.JPG) (IMG_0856.JPG) (IMG_0857.JPG) (IMG_0858.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0855.JPG (109KB - 103 downloads) IMG_0856.JPG (101KB - 105 downloads) IMG_0857.JPG (127KB - 109 downloads) IMG_0858.JPG (138KB - 114 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
| ||
Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | That looks a lot better than I expected it would. Thanks for the tip. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | It looks great. Especially in comparison to the corroded, dirty original anodizing. There is a trick to getting the chromatic colors to "lay right" as they are supposed to be painted in random areas. It's best to test it out on a spare piece before painting the original, just to get the hang of it. | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Brake booster is finally on. Master is being painted/cleared and will be ready to put on tonight. I also cleaned up the frame all the way back to the transmission crossmember and painted it. I undercoated the transmission tunnel and lower part of the firewall. Once my brake lines are flared and installed, I'll be ready to put the motor in her. Can't wait! (IMG_0963.JPG) (IMG_0962.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0963.JPG (149KB - 107 downloads) IMG_0962.JPG (140KB - 101 downloads) | ||
Swept57 |
| ||
Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | Jessica, I went through my entire storage unit, and I guess I must have sold that 3rd set of air cleaners. I'm interested in how your silenced-to-unsilenced conversion comes out though. Dave | ||
Jessica |
| ||
Elite Veteran Posts: 1053 Location: Ny | Thanks, Dave. I appreciate you checking for me. In the meantime, I picked up another intake and carb setup for my wagon. I'll probably use the first intake that I bought since it was beadblasted, and put these newly rebuilt edelbrock 450's on them. (IMG_0999.JPG) (IMG_0998.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0999.JPG (193KB - 110 downloads) IMG_0998.JPG (203KB - 105 downloads) | ||
Jump to page : 1 2 3 Now viewing page 2 [50 messages per page] |
Search this forum Printer friendly version E-mail a link to this thread |
(Delete all cookies set by this site) | |