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Posted 2017-03-11 10:01 AM (#535718 - in reply to #535705)
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Posted 2017-03-13 1:18 PM (#535859 - in reply to #533886)
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Posted 2017-03-19 4:15 PM (#536215 - in reply to #534070)
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I've also included two photos from the facebook ad when the car was being sold. Unfortunately the front bumper (including the wings and that rare accessory bar) and a few other bits were parted out before Jim bought it.




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Posted 2017-03-19 5:20 PM (#536220 - in reply to #533886)
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That's a link for a Plymouth part.
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Posted 2017-03-19 5:55 PM (#536223 - in reply to #536220)
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Yes the front bumper guard as was originally in place on the picture?
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Posted 2017-03-19 11:12 PM (#536269 - in reply to #535859)
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firedome - 2017-03-13 1:18 PM Yeah, Ford wasn't given credit for their own Forward Look!

 

the 57 lincoln was the best looking car from ford in 57 and still couldnt compete...

 

 





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Jessica
Posted 2017-03-19 11:45 PM (#536278 - in reply to #533886)
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Thank you for the link to the bumper accessory bar, Paul. I've got it on my watch list. I suppose we will see what it sells for. It would be a great piece to help put things back to original.
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Posted 2017-03-20 9:37 AM (#536295 - in reply to #533886)
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I sold a nos one for 100$, they are rare but Christine people don't want them. I have another one in the basement but I think I needs chromed.

Mine is not horrible, I will sell it for say 50$ shipped if you dont get that one.  I think its probably around 100$ to chrome it



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Posted 2017-03-21 1:45 PM (#536374 - in reply to #533886)
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here is some pics of the one I have.

good core at least, but my NOS one I had would have to rechromed anyways. It was cheap chrome.







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Posted 2017-03-21 6:24 PM (#536393 - in reply to #533886)
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I'll take it. PM sent soon.Marc.
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Posted 2017-03-21 7:53 PM (#536403 - in reply to #533886)
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Heh Jessica has first dibs. if she doesn't want its yours.
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Jessica
Posted 2017-03-21 9:06 PM (#536409 - in reply to #533886)
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Sorry, Marc. I grabbed it up.
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Posted 2017-03-22 11:33 PM (#536497 - in reply to #533886)
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I first thought this was your suburban when I spotted it on the net but a closer look it is not but……almost twins



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Jessica
Posted 2017-03-23 9:01 AM (#536514 - in reply to #533886)
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That is my Suburban. It's a photo of it sitting in a field at Hernandos Hideaway. Somewhere between 2002-2014.
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Posted 2017-03-23 9:06 AM (#536515 - in reply to #533886)
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She still has the Oregon plates... this is from the day I bought her.



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Posted 2017-03-25 12:11 PM (#536637 - in reply to #533886)
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Picked up the inner fenders and core support from the sand blaster this weekend. Looks like another painting project in my future.



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Posted 2017-03-26 5:43 PM (#536718 - in reply to #536637)
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Lucky you. I've been spending a lot of work on mine to almost bring them into paintable condition. But I had to weld in a bunch of holes and fix dents as well. Did they charge you extra to remove the undercoating?
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Posted 2017-03-26 8:42 PM (#536735 - in reply to #533886)
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No extra charge. Not even to remove the copious amounts of asphalt that had collected on the drivers side. Luckily, he was able to get it all off. Nasty stuff. I do have a little bit of repair work to do beneath the battery tray.





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Posted 2017-03-27 10:58 PM (#536787 - in reply to #533886)
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Painted the spare tire cover to match the body tonight. Blends in so much better than the white. I also was gifted a pair of park lenses for my birthday. She's slowly coming along. We can make more progress if this nicer weather sticks around.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-03-28 8:27 AM (#536798 - in reply to #533886)
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going to leave the patina?
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Posted 2017-04-01 10:07 AM (#537148 - in reply to #533886)
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Yes, I like it. Maybe later down the road I will paint it.
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Posted 2017-04-01 10:20 AM (#537149 - in reply to #533886)
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yeah not bad, kind of weird how the front end is gone and the back of the car survived. Like it had a the front end replaced?
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Posted 2017-04-01 11:16 PM (#537188 - in reply to #533886)
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The way it was explained to me... they painted the whole car Coral and then masked off the roof and color sweep, and sprayed the rest white. The front clip was not painted with two coats of paint, and so the paint did not survive as it did on the body.
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Posted 2017-04-03 12:15 PM (#537275 - in reply to #533886)
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It was 56 yesterday so I took the opportunity to etch prime my inner fenders and core support. They're ready for some black satin paint. I also bought some copper nickel brake lines and placed a small order to Gary Goers for some rubber do-dads under the hood. Not much progress lately as we have all been fighting a stomach bug/virus of sorts. I've also been putting extra hours in at work to put some sneakers on this chick. She'll be getting a set of wide white radials.



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Posted 2017-04-05 9:48 PM (#537465 - in reply to #533886)
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I am way behind your progress..





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Posted 2017-04-06 5:14 PM (#537511 - in reply to #533886)
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I feel like I really haven't gotten anything done in the last couple weeks. I was hoping to have my motor installed by now, but it's still in the back of my jeep. :lol:
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Posted 2017-04-07 12:54 PM (#537556 - in reply to #533886)
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Congratulations on such a great car, and such a great labor of love you are contributing to it! My dad bought a 57 Plymouth 9 pass Sport Suburban new when I was just a kid. It was ginger and white, and your car reminds me so much of his. I have wonderful memories riding in the 3rd seat all the way to Utah as a 10 year old and having every trucker toot their horn as we passed. They responded so well to my arm gesture back then, plus rear facing 3 rd seats were a new novelty in 1957. I have a 57 DeSoto Firesweep Explorer wagon that is next on my list to restore. It is as close as I'm going to get to the Sport Suburban. I was raised in the Scotia, Burnt Hills area on Route 50. Are you anywhere close?
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Posted 2017-04-07 4:29 PM (#537570 - in reply to #533886)
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Rear facing 3rd row seats are quite a novelty today too! My kids rode in the 3rd seat of my Satellite wagon for quite a while when they were younger and enjoyed being able to interact with other people on the road. Once they reached teenage years though, the novelty of it wore off....
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Posted 2017-04-10 7:55 PM (#537816 - in reply to #533886)
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My heart has always been with Desoto, but I wasn't able to come across one that I liked or met my budget. So I settled for the most badass Plymouth I could find.

My kids are looking forward to sitting in the rear-facing seat. The floors need a little work back there before they can climb in, though.

Right now my progress is slowly going backwards. I tore apart my brakes to swap the spindles to the other side. With the calipers at the rear of rotor they won't clear the bump-stop brace on the frame. Rather than cutting a notch to accommodate my caliper, I'm just going to switch out the spindle sides and mount the caliper to the front of the rotor. Easy enough to do, but frustrating all the same.

Failure= knowledge, right?



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Posted 2017-04-10 9:30 PM (#537820 - in reply to #533886)
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Don't the Ply. wagons have a front sway bar? I took one off a 57 Chrysler for my 58 Plymouth. IIRC someone had a clearance problem with a disc conversion and their front sway bar ( just in case you decide to add one)
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Posted 2017-04-11 5:37 PM (#537887 - in reply to #533886)
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I think that the 58 has a sway bar and maybe the Fury does for 57? My wagon does not have one. Yet.

I'm back in business with the brakes. Swapped out the spindles and bolted it back together with the calipers mounted forward of the rotor. Now I can run my copper nickel brake lines. I'll be picking up a proportioning valve for it this week. SSBC makes one that includes the brake light switch which is nice.

As far as the strut rod is concerned, it does need to be cut to accommodate the disc setup. That's an easy chop at an angle on the end with the cutoff wheel.

Tranny is next on my list, and then I should be (hopefully) putting the motor in it this week or next.



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Posted 2017-04-13 2:44 PM (#538052 - in reply to #533886)
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It's coming along really nicely Jessica! I haven't been to my storage garage for a few months, but I hope to get over there this weekend. I'll see if I still have those 57 air cleaners. At one time I had 4 sets. One is for my D-501 and I know I sold the two poorest condition sets, but I can't remember if I sold the remaining set.
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Posted 2017-04-17 12:31 AM (#538221 - in reply to #533886)
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That would be great, thank you!

I hope everyone had a nice Easter weekend. I celebrated mine with a sinus infection and the flu. Pulled the transmission from her perch, and remained in one piece despite it looking like a massacre happened beneath the car. I dropped the ratchet on my forehead (square between the eyes, too), and nearly put another hole through the floor pan with my elbow when the cotter pin decided to let go as I was removing it from the e-brake cable pin. Then the transmission slid off the jack sideways and bled all over the floor. Just one of those days, I guess!





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Posted 2017-04-17 12:45 AM (#538222 - in reply to #533886)
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step 1 in transmission removal... remove pan and drains transmission
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Posted 2017-04-17 5:11 PM (#538270 - in reply to #533886)
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Yeah... hindsight is 20/20.

I'm still fairly congested, but spent some time in the shop. Jeff helped me cut the idler arm out (the bolt was seized) and pressed the new bushing in. Thanks again for the bushing, Mike! I've got to get a new bolt and then I can install it back in the car.





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Posted 2017-04-24 5:59 PM (#538777 - in reply to #533886)
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Went to spring Carlisle this weekend and picked up a fair amount of goodies for the wagon. I picked up a bumper wing front bumper from a friend, a brake booster that's not torn and still pliable, some air filters and a an air cleaner to cut down to make half of my dual quad setup (I have the other half here at the house). We also picked up some more shop supplies. Shows like these are perfect for that: $15 for a bag of 200 shop rags, cast blast, etc.

I am still recovering from surgery I had last week, but the weather is nearing perfection and the days are getting longer. Hoping to get more progress done so I can button up the front end and get the rear up in the air.





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Posted 2017-05-01 12:02 AM (#539189 - in reply to #533886)
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Received my Gary Goers order on Friday the 28th. It took about a month for my order to process-- from mailing my forms and check in to receiving it at my doorstep. I'm very pleased with what I receive and can't wait to get it all on the car. I had surgery a week ago so I haven't really made any progress on it. It's been a slow, painful recovery.





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Posted 2017-05-01 7:33 AM (#539201 - in reply to #533886)
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What a banquet !! Did I read your post correctly Your cutting down that air cleaner for your dual quad set up? That's a big sacrifice.I have a set of fiberglass air cleaners for that type of set up that you could probably talk me out of on trade for your original,"just a thought"

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Posted 2017-05-01 10:47 AM (#539210 - in reply to #533886)
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Hi Here's a set I made...same formula



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Posted 2017-05-01 10:58 AM (#539213 - in reply to #539210)
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Nice. How did you make the new lid? Also, what did you do at the transition from the tube to the original lid?
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Posted 2017-05-01 11:20 AM (#539217 - in reply to #533886)
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For the lid I salvaged the Air cleaner "base" plate from the front of the silencer can this gave me the outside seat for the air filter , I cut a flat piece of sheet stock and formed the depression for the wingnut and then I trimmed out the salvaged base plate and butt welded then together. For the transition inside the original lid which is now the air cleaner body I took some flat sheet stock, rolled the end and then brought the ends together to form the tube, slipped the tube through the "body" and welded around the "roll" inside. The wingnut support strut was salvaged from the original can and the welded in place . The original filters fit like they should.
I' not sure how Jessica will be doing hers for the wagon but that's how I did it....

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Posted 2017-05-01 12:08 PM (#539221 - in reply to #539210)
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Those look nice!
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Posted 2017-05-01 4:08 PM (#539235 - in reply to #533886)
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Those look great, grenau. I think I prefer metal to fiberglass, though, so I will keep my air cleaner Frankenstein's.

Cleaning up the firewall some more. I decided that I'd rather salvage my original firewall grommets than use Gary's. His are a nice go-to if yours are missing or broken, but I think the originals are cleaner overall. A friend suggested using gojo to clean them up, and that seems to work nicely.



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Posted 2017-05-03 12:14 PM (#539377 - in reply to #533886)
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Took on a new project: the brake booster. My original booster bellows were badly torn. I found a unit with decent rubber at Carlisle, and decided to make the swap. My zinc plating, while dull and lifeless on the outside, looks excellent inside. I bought some cadmium (gold zinc) paint from Eastwood to try out, so once that is here, I can zip everything back together. As for the O-rings inside my booster, everything was still soft and pliable. I cleaned everything up and gave it a nice coating of lithium grease to help it seal-- especially where that copper valve fitting is. Has anyone tried the zinc aerosol from Eastwood?





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Posted 2017-05-08 12:41 AM (#539662 - in reply to #533886)
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The Eastwood cadmium paint set I ordered arrived, and so I spent a couple hours painting and reassembling my brake booster. It turned out really nice, and I would recommend their cadmium paint kit as a good alternative to zinc plating.





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Posted 2017-05-08 2:15 AM (#539667 - in reply to #539662)
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That looks a lot better than I expected it would. Thanks for the tip.
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Posted 2017-05-12 8:42 AM (#539906 - in reply to #533886)
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It looks great. Especially in comparison to the corroded, dirty original anodizing. There is a trick to getting the chromatic colors to "lay right" as they are supposed to be painted in random areas. It's best to test it out on a spare piece before painting the original, just to get the hang of it.
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Jessica
Posted 2017-05-23 1:57 PM (#540734 - in reply to #533886)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth Sport Suburban "V800" (or not)



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Brake booster is finally on. Master is being painted/cleared and will be ready to put on tonight. I also cleaned up the frame all the way back to the transmission crossmember and painted it. I undercoated the transmission tunnel and lower part of the firewall. Once my brake lines are flared and installed, I'll be ready to put the motor in her. Can't wait!



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Swept57
Posted 2017-05-24 8:24 AM (#540792 - in reply to #533886)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth Sport Suburban "V800" (or not)



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Jessica, I went through my entire storage unit, and I guess I must have sold that 3rd set of air cleaners. I'm interested in how your silenced-to-unsilenced conversion comes out though. Dave
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Jessica
Posted 2017-05-31 6:22 PM (#541290 - in reply to #533886)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth Sport Suburban "V800" (or not)



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Thanks, Dave. I appreciate you checking for me. In the meantime, I picked up another intake and carb setup for my wagon. I'll probably use the first intake that I bought since it was beadblasted, and put these newly rebuilt edelbrock 450's on them.





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