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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9899 Location: Lower Mainland BC | I just got a piece of side trim for my 56 CR 4dr to replace the one I scrunched 2 weeks ago after sliding the car into the garage door while putting it way (I blame the ice/snow just outside the garage door and, naturally, stupidity). I figured out one way to get the door trim off the door: starting at one end with very thin plastic wedges. (There are five clips that hold the trim to the door). That said I haven't actually opened that can of worms quite yet and totally remove the trim. I just did enough to extract one clip to see if there was a PN on it. I think it is 1695 561 but they seem to be stamped "P641". With the trim piece and clips in hand, I can see that the clips *could* be loaded into the trim piece and slid along to the appropriate location. However, the fit is extremely loose. This leads to another idea: leave the clips on the door when the trim is removed and for installation, place the trim over the top of the clips and push down and in to clear the bottom of the trim and then push in and up. (Or some variation of that). Ideas? Comments? BTDTs? 1. Photos are the trim location 2. the Trim piece 3. The trim clips Edited by 56D500boy 2017-01-28 2:49 PM (DaveFs56D500Nov25_2016_LeftRearDoorMoulding.jpg) (56DodgeSSTrimShowingGroove_small_Annotated.jpg) (56DodgeCRSideTrimClips_Annotated.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DaveFs56D500Nov25_2016_LeftRearDoorMoulding.jpg (133KB - 66 downloads) 56DodgeSSTrimShowingGroove_small_Annotated.jpg (139KB - 75 downloads) 56DodgeCRSideTrimClips_Annotated.jpg (88KB - 73 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Commenting without the answer but because I also need to know (which gets me subscribed to the thread). Does RJ&L make the correct clips? Or other? | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6498 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | R.J.&L AUTOMOTIVE FASTENERS & VINTAGE WIRING SUPPLIES P.O.BOX 143 PENFIELD, NY 14526-9998 Ph/fax 315-986-7121 rjlfast@gmail.com http://www.rjlautofasteners.com/ Cruise the whole catalog. I bet one will work for you. Marc. Edited by mstrug 2017-01-28 7:41 PM | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9899 Location: Lower Mainland BC | mstrug - 2017-01-28 7:39 PM http://www.rjlautofasteners.com/ Cruise the whole catalog. I bet one will work for you. Marc. Thanks Marc Downloaded their catalog http://www.rjlautofasteners.com/2014catalog.pdf Literally nothing for 56 Dodge. Some thing for 55 Dodge (too small) and 57 Dodge (too big?) Nothing for 56 Dodge. | ||
mstrug |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6498 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | TYou may want to give them some measurements. There are a lot of clips in the F0rd Section that might work. | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9899 Location: Lower Mainland BC | mstrug - 2017-01-28 8:02 PM TYou may want to give them some measurements. There are a lot of clips in the F0rd Section that might work. In any event, the point has been missed: I don't need clips. I have clips. What I want to know the best procedure for mounting the side trim *ON* the clips. | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Dave, do it by youself as shown. Take stainless spring steel 0.3mm, cut and drill, then a stainless M4 / M5 with a wing nut: no gaps, no rust and , never lost or stolen. - SERGE - http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23691&start=67
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Ev's62Chrysler |
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Veteran Posts: 210 Location: Suwanee, GA | 56D500boy - 2017-01-28 8:23 PM mstrug - 2017-01-28 8:02 PM TYou may want to give them some measurements. There are a lot of clips in the F0rd Section that might work. In any event, the point has been missed: I don't need clips. I have clips. What I want to know the best procedure for mounting the side trim *ON* the clips. :) Can't speak for your car, but... My 64 and 65 Falcons have similar side trim clips. They have two tabs that protrude towards the inside and outside. Insert into the hole, squeeze the outer protrusions with pliers, which flares the inner outward to adhere to body. After all have been installed, hang the trim top edge over the clips and align horizontally. Starting at the more critical end of the trim in terms of distance to an edge (your case both are equally critical as it must be centered between two other pieces) press vertically downward on the trim so that the top edge doesn't slip off the clips, and smack the trim with the palm of your hand to engage the bottom of it. The cross-section of the trim, the material type, the amount of bondo you think you might have in the vicinity, and the fragility of the paint for chipping have a lot to do with the amount of force you use so that you attach it, but don't damage it. After clipping the first one, check horizontal alignment as it will become more difficult to slide the trim one way or another as you engage more clips. The clips I'm speaking of have rubber "boots" on the tabs to seal out water. Often I've substituted other types with studs where I can get a nut on the backside as the original ones become rusty and new ones can be expensive, but there are areas, especially on quarter panels, where you cannot reach the back side with a nut. Good luck, Robert | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9899 Location: Lower Mainland BC | sermey - 2017-01-29 12:00 AM Dave, do it by youself as shown. Take stainless spring steel 0.3mm, cut and drill, then a stainless M4 / M5 with a wing nut: no gaps, no rust and , never lost or stolen. - SERGE - Ev's62Chrysler - 2017-01-29 9:20 AM My 64 and 65 Falcons have similar side trim clips. They have two tabs that protrude towards the inside and outside. Insert into the hole, squeeze the outer protrusions with pliers, which flares the inner outward to adhere to body. After all have been installed, hang the trim top edge over the clips and align horizontally. Starting at the more critical end of the trim in terms of distance to an edge (your case both are equally critical as it must be centered between two other pieces) press vertically downward on the trim so that the top edge doesn't slip off the clips, and smack the trim with the palm of your hand to engage the bottom of it. The cross-section of the trim, the material type, the amount of bondo you think you might have in the vicinity, and the fragility of the paint for chipping have a lot to do with the amount of force you use so that you attach it, but don't damage it. After clipping the first one, check horizontal alignment as it will become more difficult to slide the trim one way or another as you engage more clips. The clips I'm speaking of have rubber "boots" on the tabs to seal out water. Often I've substituted other types with studs where I can get a nut on the backside as the original ones become rusty and new ones can be expensive, but there are areas, especially on quarter panels, where you cannot reach the back side with a nut. Good luck, Robert Thanks Serge and Robert. I think I have enough info/alternatives to carry on with confidence now. | ||
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