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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-11 11:54 AM (#537857 - in reply to #537850)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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The Gabriel was about 3/64" larger in diameter than the stock shock. The recommendation I found elsewhere on this site was to get the KYB shocks for the mid-'70s 'vette. The Gabriels were cheaper, so I went with them. I suspect they may be slightly larger than the KYBs. I don't know if there's a difference in the 6 and 8 cylinder car lower control arms. But, it was only a few seconds work with the Dremel to slip the new shock through.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-11 4:23 PM (#537878 - in reply to #537857)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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Here's the shock in the car.



(Plaza shock installed.jpg)



(Plaza Gabriel box top.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-12 8:17 PM (#537999 - in reply to #537878)
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Today, I pulled out the old single master cylinder and started on installing the new dual master cylinder. Had to make a gasket for the firewall. The pushrod was way too long. Fortunately, the original pushrod is adjustable. I had to polish off the corrosion to get it to fit into the '70s A-body MC I'm using.




(Plaza MC new.jpg)



(Plaza MC gasket.jpg)



(Plaza MC pushrod.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-13 8:38 PM (#538073 - in reply to #537999)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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Probably re-plumbing the brake system just in time.



(Plaza brake hose.jpg)



(Plaza distribution block old.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-15 8:50 PM (#538178 - in reply to #538073)
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Master cylinder label.



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-17 7:16 PM (#538272 - in reply to #538178)
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Got the master cylinder and distribution valve plumbed today.



(Plaza MC lines.jpg)



(Plaza distribution valve and lines.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-18 8:28 PM (#538330 - in reply to #538272)
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The notch on the top of the mounting flange of the newer master cylinder left a part of the hole in the firewall for the old master cylinder uncovered. I dug out a piece of aluminum sheet I had and made a plate and gasket to go between the new master cylinder and firewall plate.



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(Plaza alum plate.jpg)



(Plaza alum plate2.jpg)



(Plaza alum plate gasket.jpg)



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-04-18 9:18 PM (#538335 - in reply to #538330)
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For the life of me, I can't figure out why Chrysler put that blasted notch there in the end of the master. Even on the '73 Dart where this master was used, it seems bad. I believe that they just covered the hole with a foam gasket originally.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-19 4:32 PM (#538404 - in reply to #538335)
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Pulled out the 6V wiper motor and installed a 12V I got from Big M. Externally, the units are almost identical. Other than the markings, the 6V has a double ground strap to the mounting bracket and the 12V a single.



(Plaza 6V wiper motor.jpg)



(Plaza 12V wiper motor.jpg)



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throwinwrenches
Posted 2017-04-20 8:39 AM (#538444 - in reply to #537857)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today



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71charger_fan - 2017-04-11 10:54 AM

The Gabriel was about 3/64" larger in diameter than the stock shock. The recommendation I found elsewhere on this site was to get the KYB shocks for the mid-'70s 'vette. The Gabriels were cheaper, so I went with them. I suspect they may be slightly larger than the KYBs. I don't know if there's a difference in the 6 and 8 cylinder car lower control arms. But, it was only a few seconds work with the Dremel to slip the new shock through.


I can an also weigh in here. I believe the control arms are different. I did the same thing as you did, I ordered the Gabriels and tried to fit them without any luck. The tube is slightly larger, and I didn't want to grind anything so I sent them back and bought some KYB's. They fit perfectly.

Looks like those were the originals you removed. Very cool to see.
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throwinwrenches
Posted 2017-04-20 8:40 AM (#538445 - in reply to #526294)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today



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You make things look easy. Nice work updating things.

Are you keeping your old front and rear brake hub / drums?
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-20 7:03 PM (#538479 - in reply to #526294)
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I offered the fronts up to my Chrysler Products Owners Club membership, but have gotten no takers. I'm keeping the rear drums. If you need the fronts, you can have them. Just pay shipping or I can bring them to Chrysler Carlisle. They're 10" for the three-bolt knuckles.

Also the master cylinder. It had some sludge in it, but the car stopped, so it was working.

Edited by 71charger_fan 2017-04-20 7:05 PM
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-21 12:28 PM (#538514 - in reply to #538479)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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I looked in the parts book and 1955 to 1956 Plymouths and Dodges, both 6 and 8 cylinder cars, used the same lower control arms, part nos. 1615 108 (right) and 1615 109 (left). Maybe there were variances from vendor to vendor or even different stamping dies.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-04-21 12:36 PM (#538517 - in reply to #538514)
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71charger_fan - 2017-04-21 12:28 PM I looked in the parts book and 1955 to 1956 Plymouths and Dodges, both 6 and 8 cylinder cars, used the same lower control arms, part nos. 1615 108 (right) and 1615 109 (left).


Agree.



(55-56FrontSuspensionPartsDiagram.jpg)



(55-56FrontSuspensionPartsControlArmPNs_1.jpg)



(55-56FrontSuspensionPartsControlArmPNs_2.jpg)



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Old Ray
Posted 2017-04-21 4:44 PM (#538541 - in reply to #538514)
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........................or maybe it's the shock manufacture?
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throwinwrenches
Posted 2017-04-24 9:49 AM (#538743 - in reply to #538479)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today



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71charger_fan - 2017-04-20 6:03 PM

I offered the fronts up to my Chrysler Products Owners Club membership, but have gotten no takers. I'm keeping the rear drums. If you need the fronts, you can have them. Just pay shipping or I can bring them to Chrysler Carlisle. They're 10" for the three-bolt knuckles.

Also the master cylinder. It had some sludge in it, but the car stopped, so it was working.


Thanks for the offer, 71charger_fan. I may take you up on it. Any idea what shipping would be to 61614? Thank you!
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-25 3:27 PM (#538862 - in reply to #526294)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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Depends on the weight. I don't know how much all that weighs, but it's a lot of steel/iron.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-25 3:30 PM (#538863 - in reply to #538862)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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Got the steering wheel back on. I'm waiting on some tie rod ends. The grease seals on mine look like they failed decades ago. Getting the horn switch back together was a huge pain as the rubber isolators had come apart. I had to stick them all together with black RTV and wait a day for it all to set up before I could turn the horn button over and attach it to the wheel.



(Plaza Steering Wheel Installed.jpg)



(Plaza Brake Line Wheel Well.jpg)



(Plaza Bearing Boxes.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-27 8:54 AM (#538984 - in reply to #538863)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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The upper hatch is held to the hinges with 1/4" bolts. One of which was broken off. Yesterday was a good day as I rarely have any luck extracting broken bolts.


Edited by 71charger_fan 2017-04-27 8:56 AM




(Plaza broken bolt.jpg)



(Plaza broken bolt out.jpg)



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-04-27 12:12 PM (#538991 - in reply to #538984)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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The upper gate on the wagon latches to the lower with two rotating latches operated by twisting the central handle. One of the latches didn't work and a previous owner had put tape over it. I pulled the latch assembly and found a broken rivet. I used a socket and punch to remove the piece of broken rivet from the actuating arm but had to drill a hole in the latch assembly to get to drill out the piece of rivet in the latch piece. I filed down the head of a #10 screw and worked it through the actuator arm and latch piece. By dumb luck, the screw head is off center of the hole I drilled, so it doesn't have a clear path to work it's way out. I'm hoping this will be a good enough fix for how little the car will be used. I don't want to have to drill out all the rivets and take the mechanism completely apart.




(Plaza latch broken rivet.jpg)



(Plaza latch rivet removed.jpg)



(Plaza latch hole drilled.jpg)



(Plaza latch screw installed.jpg)



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