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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-06 8:24 PM (#551759 - in reply to #526294)
Subject: Re: '55 Plaza Suburban arrives today


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I'm trying a piece of flat stock in which I've twisted a 90-degree bend on the long axis. I'm hoping to get one end up inside the cowl to act as the hinge then bend the flat stock along the face of the firewall and attach it to one of the nuts that secures the passenger-side vent. My hinge plate was not welded in square at the factory so my vent never sat square. I'm hoping when (if) I get this hinge jury rigged, I can also get the vent to sit square with the opening.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-06 8:36 PM (#551760 - in reply to #551759)
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71charger_fan - 2017-11-06 8:24 PM I'm trying a piece of flat stock in which I've twisted a 90-degree bend on the long axis. I'm hoping to get one end up inside the cowl to act as the hinge then bend the flat stock along the face of the firewall and attach it to one of the nuts that secures the passenger-side vent. My hinge plate was not welded in square at the factory so my vent never sat square. I'm hoping when (if) I get this hinge jury rigged, I can also get the vent to sit square with the opening.


Good luck. I'm going to stick with my proposed solution.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-06 9:14 PM (#551763 - in reply to #526294)
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I very well may wind up with your solution. I'm not sure I can make my idea work.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-07 1:17 PM (#551788 - in reply to #551763)
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One of the insulation retainers crumbled and fell apart when I tried to pull it off. Since I had 99 left over #12-24 nuts from the box I had to buy to get the one nut I needed, I threaded one of the studs, used a scrap piece of plastic as a retainer for the insulation, and double-nutted two #12-24 nuts to hold the plastic.


Edited by 71charger_fan 2017-11-07 9:27 PM




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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-08 3:43 PM (#551858 - in reply to #551788)
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I'm pretty sure I can make this twisted flat bar hinge repair work. Determining where to drill the hole for the actual hinge will be a challenge. I think I may have to notch the bottom of the vent itself. The stud is 1/4-28. Fortunately, I had a buy a few 1/4-28 nuts to repair a chainsaw a few years ago.


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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-08 4:09 PM (#551861 - in reply to #551858)
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You are in a unique situation relative to mine in that you have the heater box off the car. Based on what I see, your solution should work if you can get the bracket lined up correctly. If I was you I would make an good educated estimate of where the hinge pin needs to be located and drill the appropriate sized hole based on what you are going to use as a hinge pin. I would then slot the lower hole so you can make adjustments up and down until everything works as you hope. Install the hinge pin and put the bracket slot over the lower stud and adjust (and readjust) until the vent is closing evenly across the cowl vent opening. That is one thing that my solution can not do, other than making a new 90 deg hinge plate if things aren't parallel.

Good luck. Keep us up to date.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-09 3:24 PM (#551923 - in reply to #551861)
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I put my bracket in then got the hinge where I thought it needed to be. I used an awl with a 90-degree bend to reach up and scratch the bracket through the hole in the hinge. I then drilled a hole centered on the scratch marks. I took a couple of bottle caps and made plastic washers so the hinge and bracket wouldn't be metal to metal. I put it together (the first time backwards of course) with a #10 machine screw. I put a double nut on the screw so it wouldn't be too tight and wouldn't back off.


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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-09 5:33 PM (#551938 - in reply to #551923)
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Looking good!! I like the bottle cap washer idea. Nice.

As for the rod boot. I did not cut mine at the bottom but I think some trimming is possible (but not needed). No photo but I used black silicone sealant to seal the boot to the body where it comes into the body. You could seal on both sides (bottom and in the plenum) if you still have the heater box off.

My trial fit from the passenger compartment side.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-09 10:08 PM (#551952 - in reply to #526294)
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I'm convinced part of the problem with mine was the rivet for the passenger side had been smashed too tight when the assembly was made. Even with almost all the rivet head drilled off, that piece of hinge bracket still refused to turn even the slightest bit. Fortunately, I have one C-clamp that's missing the pad on the screw. So, the pin part that remains was what I used to push out the remains of the rivet from the hinge into a socket.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-09 10:51 PM (#551957 - in reply to #551952)
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Interesting. Could be a common failure then (because of an over-zealous riveter/out of adjustment crimper at the factory).

Thanks for the C-clamp hint.



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57chizler
Posted 2017-11-10 3:12 PM (#551989 - in reply to #551957)
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When you guys get your cowl vents working smoothly, consider making them electric with a linear actuator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7yUvR7NPVU



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-11 10:22 PM (#552087 - in reply to #526294)
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That's a cool set up, but beyond where I'm looking to go with this car.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-12 1:24 AM (#552093 - in reply to #551989)
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57chizler - 2017-11-10 3:12 PM
When you guys get your cowl vents working smoothly, consider making them electric with a linear actuator.


Sorry. That's a $100 answer to a $10 question. I've already rehabbed and greased the bell-crank mechanism which works very nicely now, thanks. No need to complicate things with power it at all.

Now if that was power activators on exhaust side pipe outlets, I might be interested.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-15 3:39 PM (#552300 - in reply to #551952)
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The round wire spring hose clamps on this thing have been giving me fits. Even though I had a pair of hose clamp pliers, they wouldn't open these clamps enough. I bought a pair of Channelock 558 hose clamp pliers. They have turned out to be exactly what I needed.




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57chizler
Posted 2017-11-15 4:12 PM (#552303 - in reply to #552093)
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56D500boy - 2017-11-11 10:24 PM

57chizler - 2017-11-10 3:12 PM
When you guys get your cowl vents working smoothly, consider making them electric with a linear actuator.


Sorry. That's a $100 answer to a $10 question.


Not in my case, the vent lever was in the way of my hang-on A/C evaporator.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-16 1:46 AM (#552352 - in reply to #552300)
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71charger_fan - 2017-11-15 3:39 PM
The round wire spring hose clamps on this thing have been giving me fits. Even though I had a pair of hose clamp pliers, they wouldn't open these clamps enough. I bought a pair of Channelock 558 hose clamp pliers. They have turned out to be exactly what I needed.


I wish I had that problem. I hate my thermostat housing to radiator corrugated hose and its gear clamps. I would love a nice smooth OE style rad hose and spring clamps.

Mine:



What I would prefer hose-wise (not sure about the air cleaner):







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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-19 2:21 PM (#552701 - in reply to #552300)
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Finally, an operating cowl vent. That wasn't in any way a giant PITA. You can see the paint line on the screen where it was frozen partially open. Funny how someone just painted the car with it like that.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-19 2:42 PM (#552703 - in reply to #552701)
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Even though this is covered in a separate thread, I'm going to repost the below in this thread so there'll be a thread that contains everything I've been doing.

I found a curved heater hose (Gates 18701/NAPA NBH 10701) that, with trimming, made a decent stand in for my original looped hose from the heater control valve to the heater core.




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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-11-29 3:02 PM (#553390 - in reply to #552703)
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I'm waiting to get the car into the body shop to get some rust repair taken car of, but I'm continuing to acquire parts.




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