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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-05 4:53 PM (#525391)
Subject: Anybody ever bothered to add a proper fuse panel?



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Location: Lower Mainland BC		I come back to early Mopars after being lost in 92-97 Audi UrS4s for many years. These cars have fuses up the ying yang. As far as I can tell, my "new" (to me) 1956 Dodge Custom Royal has zero fuses. Makes me a little uncomfortable.

I like automotive wiring and was thinking a) add a fuse box for the main circuits and then b) maybe somebody has already done this and can show me some examples.

SO...has anybody already done this and could show me some examples?

Not a priority project but one that will be on my easily distracted mind.

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57chizler
Posted 2016-11-05 5:15 PM (#525395 - in reply to #525391)
Subject: RE: Anybody ever bothered to add a proper fuse panel?



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You could find a junkyard fuse panel that has the circuits you desire and reroute the wires through it or, if you're really adventuresome, gut all the wiring and add an aftermarket panel. Here's a pic of the Ron Francis panel in my '56 Plymouth.



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GaryS
Posted 2016-11-05 5:34 PM (#525397 - in reply to #525391)
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Location: Ponder, TX		I'm just getting into that project now on my '56 Plymouth, but I'm not far enough along to take pictures that show anything.

I'm rewiring the entire car and since it has many modern upgrades it will have a fuse panel and seat control module hidden under a custom console between bucket seat. These circuits will power most of the accessories and lighting.

Under the hood I'll have a fuse/relay panel and a power buss to supply engine compartment needs since the battery will be in the trunk. Since I'm sure you prefer your D500 to look stock, my version wouldn't be what you want, but it's doable and in my case, necessary. However, if your Dodge is the same as my Plymouth, some of the circuits are protected by circuit breakers and you may not want to change anything.

I did replace an old style fuse panel in my '64 Plymouth, but it was to add more circuits and upgrade to modern fuses. Unfortunately it's behind the dash and out of camera range.

This picture is of the panel that will be inside the console.

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Old Ray
Posted 2016-11-05 8:47 PM (#525415 - in reply to #525391)
Subject: RE: Anybody ever bothered to add a proper fuse panel?



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My last two projects. DO NOT DO!
Not sure what I'm going to do on the Plodge yet?





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miquelonbrad
Posted 2016-11-12 8:45 PM (#526076 - in reply to #525391)
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada		If you are doing a complete rewire on a custom build, then it is probably easier to put in a complete custom harness. But if you are just wanting to add some safety to an existing car, or are doing a restoration and you want a stock looking harness, then inline fuses in appropriate places is the way to go. Just document where you put them, for any future owners...
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-12 8:59 PM (#526079 - in reply to #526076)
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miquelonbrad - 2016-11-12 8:45 PM

If you are doing a complete rewire on a custom build, then it is probably easier to put in a complete custom harness. But if you are just wanting to add some safety to an existing car, or are doing a restoration and you want a stock looking harness, then inline fuses in appropriate places is the way to go. Just document where you put them, for any future owners...


I just wanted to add some safety to my 56 Dodge CR D500. That said I was probably thinking a central(ish) fuse panel somewhere appropriate (maybe one in the engine bay and one under the dash (e.g. on the drivers kick panel).

Maybe something like these:



Or this (obviously made for boats)

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ttotired
Posted 2016-11-13 6:32 AM (#526112 - in reply to #525391)
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Location: Perth Australia		The above fuse boxes, though good quality boxes are not much use in a car. All fuses are powered
off 1 power source. You normally need a few battery circuits, a few ignition circuits and a few accessory circuits and park light/dash lights as well

Depending on what your doing, the standard circuit protection is not bad except the main power supply to the car, its not protected
and is the major cause of a burnt out harness in a standard car

If your adding lots of wiz bang stuff, then an extra fuse box or 2 could be added

To re design the total wiring protection set up in the car, as said, you might as well re wire the car otherwise you will end up with more cuts and joins in the wiring than you could ever want with every one a potential failure point

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2016-11-13 8:52 AM (#526123 - in reply to #526112)
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Location: Ontario, Canada		The fuses are powered from 2 power sources. One is battery power which is hot all the time. You know, for dome lights, clock etc. The second is accessory power, blower and most other devices. Only hot when the ignition switch is turned to "on" or "acc". You need a split power fuse block or two fuse blocks.

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matte
Posted 2016-11-15 2:52 PM (#526327 - in reply to #526123)
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Location: Sydney, Australia		This thread is such a coincidence because I was only thinking of adding some type of fusebox to the car.
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-15 3:25 PM (#526330 - in reply to #526327)
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matte - 2016-11-15 2:52 PM This thread is such a coincidence because I was only thinking of adding some type of fusebox to the car.


I was thinking of it because I've come from a World where this is normal (and the lack of fuses makes me nervous as a result):

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ttotired
Posted 2016-11-15 6:26 PM (#526348 - in reply to #525391)
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Location: Perth Australia		You could fit a fuse box with fuses for all the individual circuits similar to above, but best think hard about it first

To use the headlights as an example (I am not being car specific here), most old cars do not wire the headlights individually into the dash area, the wiring will split in the engine bay somewhere
to go to either side and either beam

These are OLD cars, the headlights are protected by a circuit breaker built into the headlight switch, there are other circuit breakers in the car as well and a couple of inline fuses as well.

That's why I have said you will need to rewire the car to do this

Look up painless wiring or similar if you really want to do it, it will be easier than trying to use your original harness

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