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DieselJeep |
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Regular Posts: 86 | Hello all, Edited by DieselJeep 2016-11-03 1:36 AM | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Sounds like a neat idea, Chris! One warning on the top tail light lens: use an LED light in there! The lens is so small that a continuously operating filament light may burn the inside of the lens. I learned the hard way! A couple of related threads for you:
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=42562&posts=12&highlight=brake light&highlightmode=1#M512823 | ||
DieselJeep |
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Regular Posts: 86 | Lancer Mike - 2016-11-03 12:49 PM Sounds like a neat idea, Chris! One warning on the top tail light lens: use an LED light in there! The lens is so small that a continuously operating filament light may burn the inside of the lens. I learned the hard way!" | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Chris, I am sad to report that the LEDs do not look right in the tail lights! Alas, whatever they look like - it is better than burning a lens! I just don't want you to have the same lens-frying experience I did. Especially on that beautiful Fireflite! The interior LEDs all look and work great. I will be interested to hear about your electrical conversion to have both top and bottom tail light lenses light up at the same time. That sounds pretty cool to me! Darn LEDs are not cheap! | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | Yeah, I was really bummed when I found out each light had only 1 function. The top light is the driving light, and the bottom is the brake & turn. I made them both operate for both functions though by using a power diode and resistor from an idea I got from Jim. See the thread about it here: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=60274&... Now both my lights light up (with high power LED's) without having to find hard-to-get dual filament sockets. In the picture, the right is driving lights, and the left has the turn signal on so it is brighter (really hard to see it accurately in the photo). I just had to install an electronic flasher to make it compatible with the LED's. Edited by Powerflite 2016-11-04 11:33 PM (DualLights.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DualLights.jpg (51KB - 185 downloads) | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Chris, when I replaced the brake light switch, I also converted the lower tail light lens (brake light) to LED. I thought "now that my brake lights work, I don't want to fry the lower lens!" It didn't work very well. Unlike the tungsten filament bulbs, the LEDs will not act as blinkers. I need to figure that one out. I don't like not having turn signals! | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Dang Nathan! You make these forums awesome! That's all I needed to know! | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | No problem Mike! | ||
DieselJeep |
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Regular Posts: 86 | Nathan is awesome. I wouldn't have a driving Desoto without his help, and hardware he sold me for near nothing. Edited by DieselJeep 2016-11-06 8:05 PM | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | You can get the parts from www.digikey.com You only need 2 different parts from them. 300 Ohm, 1 Watt Resistor: (you need 2 of them at a whopping 26 cents each) RSF1JT300RTR-ND 5 Amp Power Diode: (You need 4 of them at 52 cents each) SB540A-E3/54GICT-ND You will end up spending more on shipping than on the parts, so you might want to purchase enough for 2 vehicles in case you end up wanting to do it to another car. 300 ohms seemed to work out well for the right resistance for these LED bulbs. But if you use a different bulb, it is possible that you may want a different resistance. But 300 ohms should be about right with the 5630 LED's. The 5630 LED bulbs are really bright. That's what I used. Something similar to this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-Red-1156-Ba15s-18-5630-1-CREE-Q5-LED-Tur... Then get an electronic flasher from your local auto parts store. That's it. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | The actual implementation looks like this. Both input lines have the power diodes on them with the lines towards the bulbs. On the driving lights, put the resistor on the input side of the diode before you connect the input wire. (Dual Light Setup.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Dual Light Setup.jpg (192KB - 180 downloads) | ||
DieselJeep |
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Regular Posts: 86 | It took me a minute of studying, but I think I understand what is happening ! Thanks Nathan for the pics!! So you are saying that I only need the one resistor for the driving light circuit? | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | Yes. I used 2 only because I had lower power resistors that I used in parallel. But if you purchase the resistor I showed, you will only need the one. When you solder them together, the resistor doesn't matter which way you put it in. But the diodes must go with the white bar that is printed on them toward the LED bulbs. Edited by Powerflite 2016-11-08 1:49 AM (Diode.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Diode.jpg (16KB - 179 downloads) | ||
DieselJeep |
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Regular Posts: 86 | One last question: If I were to put LED's in the front parking turn light in the grill, would I have to put only one resistor and diode in there? Thanks for your patience and massive effort to help myself, and everyone here. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | No. The diodes and resistor are not required to use LED's. You can use LED's anywhere you want as long as you use an electronic flasher. Just change out the bulbs and the flasher and go. But the diodes & resistor are to used to make a single bulb react to 2 separate sources, such as brake and driving lights. The sole purpose for doing this on the backend is to get both lights on for both functions instead of having them act separately. Edited by Powerflite 2016-11-08 10:49 AM | ||
LD3 Greg |
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Expert Posts: 1906 Location: Ontario, Canada | Powerflite - 2016-11-08 10:47 AM No. The diodes and resistor are not required to use LED's. You can use LED's anywhere you want as long as you use an electronic flasher. Just change out the bulbs and the flasher and go. But the diodes & resistor are to used to make a single bulb react to 2 separate sources, such as brake and driving lights. The sole purpose for doing this on the backend is to get both lights on for both functions instead of having them act separately. OK, now I get it!! ( I think). By a "single bulb" you mean a single filament bulb as opposed to a dual filament bulb? For the combination tail/brake and turn signal light sockets, as for your 58 Dodge, is there an LED bulb available? Or, am I missing things here?! Thanks, Nathan. Greg | ||
LD3 Greg |
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Expert Posts: 1906 Location: Ontario, Canada | LD3 Greg - 2016-11-08 6:47 PM Powerflite - 2016-11-08 10:47 AM No. The diodes and resistor are not required to use LED's. You can use LED's anywhere you want as long as you use an electronic flasher. Just change out the bulbs and the flasher and go. But the diodes & resistor are to used to make a single bulb react to 2 separate sources, such as brake and driving lights. The sole purpose for doing this on the backend is to get both lights on for both functions instead of having them act separately. OK, now I get it!! ( I think). By a "single bulb" you mean a single filament bulb as opposed to a dual filament bulb? For the combination tail/brake and turn signal light sockets, as for your 58 Dodge, is there an LED bulb available? Or, am I missing things here?! Thanks, Nathan. Greg I just found an 1157 LED bulb on line. Answered my own question? Back to the election! Greg | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9663 Location: So. Cal | Yep, you got it Greg. The Dodge already uses a dual filament bulb so it wouldn't need these diodes & resistors. | ||
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