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soiouz
Posted 2016-07-25 7:05 AM (#517534)
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Well, it's time to reveal my little secret.

It all happened very, very quickly and in the span of 6 days, I sold my beloved 1958 Dodge Regent coupe and bought, surprise, surprise: a red and white 1958 Plymouth coupe! Offer on my Regent was good and the price I paid for the Plymouth was good too, so I did the move and I'm a happy camper.


My new car is an older Mopar Mel "creation" (yeah, I know!), but it's changed hands a couple of times and a lot of bugs were corrected. Still some flaws to correct, but hey, it's part of the fun, right?


This time, I won't be thinking that much about originality and get all obsessive with details as with my other cars: the idea here is just a fun driver, in driver shape, for a while.






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mikes2nd
Posted 2016-07-25 7:37 AM (#517536 - in reply to #517534)
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wondered what you were doing.

do you have a dead body up inside the rear package tray?
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soiouz
Posted 2016-07-25 8:30 AM (#517541 - in reply to #517536)
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mikes2nd - 2016-07-25 7:37 AM

wondered what you were doing.

do you have a dead body up inside the rear package tray? :)



I should check, it might explain the smell.
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Viper Guy
Posted 2016-07-25 8:58 AM (#517546 - in reply to #517534)
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Looks great! Have fun and enjoy - keep us posted with your updates.
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Posted 2016-07-25 10:05 AM (#517550 - in reply to #517534)
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Love it, Love It, LOVE IT!!! Very nice. I even like the dodge style interior cloth. Marc.
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Posted 2016-07-25 12:41 PM (#517564 - in reply to #517534)
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Congratulations, soiouz!

I'll miss your beautiful Regent, but your new Plymouth is soooo very nice!

Enjoy your cool new ride!



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Posted 2016-07-25 1:12 PM (#517567 - in reply to #517564)
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It looks good David, did you find the car in Quebec?
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soiouz
Posted 2016-07-25 1:16 PM (#517568 - in reply to #517567)
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imopar380 - 2016-07-25 1:12 PM

It looks good David, did you find the car in Quebec?



Nope, all the way east in the Maritimes!
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Posted 2016-07-25 1:20 PM (#517569 - in reply to #517534)
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I dunno I kind of like the 57 fury emblem better than the 58.

Doc Desoto will not be pleased...
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soiouz
Posted 2016-07-25 1:40 PM (#517571 - in reply to #517569)
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mikes2nd - 2016-07-25 1:20 PM

I dunno I kind of like the 57 fury emblem better than the 58.

Doc Desoto will not be pleased...


haha!

I know. I fear his reaction a bit...









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Lancer Mike
Posted 2016-07-25 6:00 PM (#517579 - in reply to #517571)
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I like red Plymouths! Nice going, David! So the big question: how does the performance compare to the '58 Regent?
I think the trade is great - you gotta switch things up now and then.
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Posted 2016-07-25 6:07 PM (#517580 - in reply to #517579)
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Lancer Mike - 2016-07-25 6:00 PM

I like red Plymouths! Nice going, David! So the big question: how does the performance compare to the '58 Regent?
I think the trade is great - you gotta switch things up now and then.


Thanks!
Speaking of trades, how about your DeSoto?

Haha!

Seriously, I cannot really compare performance for now, as the Plymouth is not yet on the road. Because it comes from another province, I have to pass a safety inspection before, and the brakes have to be gone through before the inspection. I'll be able to test it good, in a week or two.
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Posted 2016-07-25 6:49 PM (#517589 - in reply to #517534)
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Great car Congrats! Nothing wrong with red Thats why it was on the cover of the brocher, Its a great color and very nice car to boot Enjoy it! HAPPY MOTORING!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2016-07-26 12:28 AM (#517611 - in reply to #517589)
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Eh, you don't want a De Soto! Besides, that Plymouth is haunted

I am going to start a new group: "Red Cars Matter"

Feel free to sign up.



Interesting: your car has the louvered vent cover (which I like). I wonder if this one started out as a Sexy Savoy?

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Posted 2016-07-26 12:34 AM (#517612 - in reply to #517579)
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I won't beat you up !

But do share the background story on the car. Is it a red-painted Fury ? A "made"
car with a mix of parts ?

58 Plymouth in 2HT form is about the closest Exner got to aesthetic perfection in
my opinion. I can do without red, but it is undeniably a beautiful car. I am back working
on my shop, which puts me closer to working on my cars. I am SO looking forward
to having that Plymouth and DeSoto all purty and ready to roll again !
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soiouz
Posted 2016-07-26 8:15 AM (#517624 - in reply to #517534)
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As far as I know, this started out as a Savoy, yes.


I did not buy it because it was red, but because it was a good deal on a good looking Plymouth.. But I like the colour on this particular car. Movie or not, red suits this model very well and it is no wonder both the US and Canadian original dealer folders, and the owner's manual + countless period ads featured a red and white hardtop coupe.




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Posted 2016-07-26 9:58 AM (#517629 - in reply to #517534)
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Posted 2016-07-26 7:08 PM (#517668 - in reply to #517534)
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David ,Nice Plymouth what engine does it have ? What are your plans for it?
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Posted 2016-07-26 9:09 PM (#517682 - in reply to #517668)
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57DODGECONV - 2016-07-26 7:08 PM

David ,Nice Plymouth what engine does it have ? What are your plans for it?


Engine is a 383. I will keep it pretty much as it is. I wanted a driver, Its what it will be.
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Posted 2016-07-27 7:39 PM (#517771 - in reply to #517534)
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David That should be a Great performing car ,That being one of Mopar Mel's Interior kits ,What do you thing of the Interior ? I like the looks of it .
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Posted 2016-07-27 8:26 PM (#517775 - in reply to #517771)
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57DODGECONV - 2016-07-27 7:39 PM

David That should be a Great performing car ,That being one of Mopar Mel's Interior kits ,What do you thing of the Interior ? I like the looks of it .



I actually like the interior a lot, except for the fake dash pad. The seats and door panels are actually very well done, and they have a feel of quality to them.
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Posted 2016-07-27 9:14 PM (#517778 - in reply to #517534)
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I like the door panel Design ,I Also like the seat material . I think the 58 Plymouths look better with the lower front valance in body color instead of the silver ,Good luck with it keep us posted .
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Posted 2016-07-27 10:05 PM (#517788 - in reply to #517775)
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Posted 2016-07-27 10:38 PM (#517792 - in reply to #517534)
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I'm friends with the guy that does Mel's seat covers and door panels, he's a great guy and does very nice work. Mel supplies all the materials.
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Posted 2016-07-28 10:14 AM (#517809 - in reply to #517792)
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Posted 2016-07-28 1:44 PM (#517827 - in reply to #517809)
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grunau - 2016-07-28 10:14 AM

Did the Regent stay in Canada?



Yes, it is in the Montreal area.
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soiouz
Posted 2016-08-08 10:26 AM (#518590 - in reply to #517534)
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I got rid of the dead cat under that package tray.



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Posted 2016-08-08 11:08 AM (#518593 - in reply to #517534)
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Posted 2016-08-11 6:22 AM (#518826 - in reply to #517534)
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Posted 2016-08-11 8:08 AM (#518832 - in reply to #517534)
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What a neat car, David. You always seem to find the classy ones. Good score.
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Posted 2016-08-11 11:42 AM (#518845 - in reply to #517534)
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what is fake about the dash pad? The new package tray is tres magnifique!

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Posted 2016-08-11 1:04 PM (#518853 - in reply to #517534)
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Well, instead of a real Plymouth dash pad, formed and shaped correctly, this one is just some home-made underpadding and red vinyl applied over it. It's not that bad, though, and I have no intention to remove it.


Quick update on the car.. I've been working a lot ever since I got it, so, not much time to enjoy for now.. But I am progressing on some urgently needed repairs: front end and suspension, alignment, brakes, etc. Car is getting better everyday! I like it!


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Posted 2016-08-11 1:19 PM (#518854 - in reply to #517534)
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Posted 2016-09-17 6:22 PM (#521485 - in reply to #517534)
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Made some more progress. Changed the sticky shiny inserts for the aluminium repros made by Marcel Poulin right here in Quebec.





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Posted 2016-09-17 9:53 PM (#521504 - in reply to #517534)
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Posted 2016-09-17 10:20 PM (#521507 - in reply to #517534)
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Looking Good ,nice to be able to Drive it and still make Improvements .
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Posted 2016-09-21 8:20 PM (#521834 - in reply to #517534)
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I've never been a big of "Christineing" cars, but that's a really nice looking car, David. I hope you get lots of opportunities to drive and enjoy it. I like that trunk mat...did you buy it? That's the right one for our cars as far as I can tell and I'd like to get one, but I don't know if anyone is reproducing them.

Enjoy your new car!
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Posted 2016-09-21 8:44 PM (#521836 - in reply to #521834)
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sconut1 - 2016-09-21 8:20 PM

I've never been a big of "Christineing" cars, but that's a really nice looking car, David. I hope you get lots of opportunities to drive and enjoy it. I like that trunk mat...did you buy it? That's the right one for our cars as far as I can tell and I'd like to get one, but I don't know if anyone is reproducing them.

Enjoy your new car!



As far as I know, only one batch of repros were made years ago. I found this mat in the trunk of a silver special 58 plymouth in the usa. Here it is in "as found" condition:

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Posted 2016-09-29 9:42 PM (#522350 - in reply to #517534)
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Thanks David. There is a guy here who can make them, but the cost is outrageous. I met a fellow earlier this year who had a mat made. It looks fantastic, but just can't see paying the price to do it. Maybe someday someone will start making them.
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Posted 2016-09-30 8:42 AM (#522371 - in reply to #522350)
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sconut1 - 2016-09-29 9:42 PM

Thanks David. There is a guy here who can make them, but the cost is outrageous. I met a fellow earlier this year who had a mat made. It looks fantastic, but just can't see paying the price to do it. Maybe someday someone will start making them.



Maybe I can find another one, I have been lucky with these in the last year or so.
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Posted 2016-09-30 9:24 AM (#522373 - in reply to #517534)
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David,

If you find another one, I'm also interested !
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Posted 2016-09-30 2:17 PM (#522388 - in reply to #517534)
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So how do I convince you to drive it down here to Vermont and show it off in our Halloween Parade? I would even supply the Christine music.
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Posted 2016-09-30 2:47 PM (#522390 - in reply to #517534)
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what does the aluminum sport tone inserts patterns look like? they are not stock markings are they? I have the mylar and I don't mind a bit of reflection but that aluminum is clean.

What does he charge now for that?
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Posted 2016-09-30 5:35 PM (#522404 - in reply to #522390)
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mikes2nd - 2016-09-30 2:47 PM

what does the aluminum sport tone inserts patterns look like? they are not stock markings are they? I have the mylar and I don't mind a bit of reflection but that aluminum is clean.

What does he charge now for that?



They are diamond shaped, like the inserts used in the movie Christine (very much identifiable in the first scene).

You should contact Marcel for a quote, because him and I made a trade for some parts on this set, so I don't really know at what he actually sells them.







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Posted 2016-10-02 1:48 PM (#522495 - in reply to #517534)
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Sorry about the poor sound, I had my hand over the mic half of the time.

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Posted 2016-10-03 9:32 AM (#522533 - in reply to #517534)
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Very, very nice. All that's left are the rear splash pans below the bumper? Will you be leaving the "Fury" off the rear quarters?

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Posted 2016-10-03 10:48 AM (#522540 - in reply to #522533)
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Viper Guy - 2016-10-03 9:32 AM

Very, very nice. All that's left are the rear splash pans below the bumper? Will you be leaving the "Fury" off the rear quarters?




Yep, exactly! Marcel Poulin, who does the repro inserts, also reproduces the rear splash panels in fiberglass and I ordered a pair already. They should be ready, painted and installed in the coming weeks.

As for the Fury scripts, I don't think I will make holes in those beautiful inserts, and I do not want to install them at the 57 Fury location on the quarter either, even though that last possibility is very tempting since I have sanded, buffed and polished the logos. I think the car will remain logo-less.


I have no idea who did these repro 57 Fury logos, but they are made of very soft aluminium, and I thought they felt pretty cheap when I got the car... but now that I have did some work to them, I think they are very well done and could really be used on a Fury. Someone went to great lengths reproducing these. Here's a couple of pics, before (rough and dull surfaces and red painted F) and after (buffed out and polished with black checkered F).



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Posted 2016-10-03 11:25 AM (#522543 - in reply to #522540)
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David, those are too nice not to put on the car! Drill the inserts and be done with it - right where they ought to be.



Halfway kidding there - it is your car after all. Do it the way you want.
Looking good!
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Posted 2016-10-03 11:34 AM (#522544 - in reply to #522543)
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Lancer Mike - 2016-10-03 11:25 AM

David, those are too nice not to put on the car! Drill the inserts and be done with it - right where they ought to be.



Halfway kidding there - it is your car after all. Do it the way you want.
Looking good!



I know...! I like them too. Arrgghh, tough choice!
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Posted 2016-10-03 1:03 PM (#522550 - in reply to #522388)
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lownslow - 2016-09-30 2:17 PM

So how do I convince you to drive it down here to Vermont and show it off in our Halloween Parade? I would even supply the Christine music.



If I still lived in the Montreal area, I might do it, but now that I'm three hours north of the border, it's quite a long run. Plus, I really look forward to making a Halloween setup of my own with it here in front of my house!
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