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FURY
Posted 2016-06-26 10:32 PM (#515220)
Subject: George Laurie took my money and delivered nothing since 2010!



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Has anybody had any recent negative dealings with George Laurie?
I am seriously out of pocket with this guy, he has $500 of mine as well as the original steering wheel from my Fury and a second wheel.
I paid him my side of the business transaction in June of 2010.
Since then it has been an unbelievable list of excuses as to why he could not deliver what I have paid him for, and he has ignored 10 emails that I have sent him since 2013.
This is beyond just being a useless lazy person-this is blatant theft.
I have written him asking him to reply in 14 days or I will be pursuing legal action against him.
If there are enough people who have been ripped off by him then we could consider a legal class action.
Yes he has produced some good quality restoration pieces in the past, but right now he just seems like a dishonest thieving crook to me, and I will put him down where he belongs. If anyone else wants to come along for the ride, jump on board.
Glenn.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-27 12:24 PM (#515268 - in reply to #515220)
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I ordered some dome light lenses from him on April 30th and haven't heard anything since. He said he had them in stock and people warned me not to order anything unless he had the item in stock.
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mstrug
Posted 2016-06-27 3:04 PM (#515279 - in reply to #515220)
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I say get in your boat and go over and have a talk with him. You are closer than any of us!. Marc.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-06-27 4:01 PM (#515281 - in reply to #515220)
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Gosh, 6 years!

Some other member in here got his emblem after 3 years, what a record!

PayPal is the only option with this guy, 30 days and get your money back. The sad part is that I would order things for him if he was more dependable.

Thanks to his BS I ending up finding and buying every lens NOS from my 57 Imperial..including the unobtanium rear cateye...
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Posted 2016-06-27 6:47 PM (#515291 - in reply to #515281)
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I'm currently at over 2 years (or is it 3 years?) with not a peep out of him. No replies of any sort...other than the initial one where he confirmed he received my $900.
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Posted 2016-06-28 2:26 AM (#515331 - in reply to #515220)
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I sure as hell wont give this fool my business I will stay away but warn folks not to do business with him. Word of mouth can help and it can also hurt
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FURY
Posted 2016-06-28 4:43 AM (#515346 - in reply to #515279)
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Might be closer than USA but still quite a long way to row in a boat. It's about a 4 hour plane ride from here. Does anybody have a street address for this crook? In all correspondence, in typical dishonest covert style, he has only provided a PO Box number, in Tewantin, Queensland, Australia. Funny he has always referred to "living in the outback", yet Tewantin is by the coast...
Glenn.

mstrug - 2016-06-28 7:04 AM

I say get in your boat and go over and have a talk with him. You are closer than any of us!. Marc.




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ram300
Posted 2016-06-28 5:35 AM (#515351 - in reply to #515346)
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Glenn, I did visit George Laurie many years ago now, probably 11 or 12, anyway his tin shed is/was located in the middle of nowhere covered in bush. It was before the days (at least for me) of GPS and I really thought I was never gonna find my way outta there. You would be astounded/suprised/horrified at where George is putting together these precious pieces.

His workmanship is outstanding. But the way he treats his customers is despicable, no communication, he takes large sums of money in advance and your precious nos lenses etc as patterns, many never see the parts or money again, gone.

I doubt I would ever be tempted to use his services again and I get sick of seeing the forum posts "but he's the only guy doing it and you should be grateful blah, blah,blah. He's unreliable, unethical and dishonest.

For those stupid/desperate enough to deal with George I would strongly recommend PAYMENT ON DELIVERY and not a penny before and never, ever send him your NOS pieces.

Sorry George, but gotta say it how it is......this whole thing has got out of hand you need to make good on these many trusting people you've burnt.

Owen
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Posted 2016-06-28 9:21 AM (#515365 - in reply to #515220)
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I've posted many times, ALL NEGATIVE about George Laurie. The only way to put a CROOK out of business is DON'T BUY.

If FL lenses are your DRUG OF CHOICE and you keep purchasing MORE DRUGS, the dealer flourishes and gets more people HOOKED.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-06-28 5:09 PM (#515398 - in reply to #515220)
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Rare how these threads go. Sometimes you have 20 people kissing this crook's azz because the lenses look awesome after waiting for 5 years.

Usually love/hate are never in the same thread..

In 5 years this crook had enough time to make a time machine out of a Delorean and go itself to the past and buy NOS lenses..











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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-28 6:06 PM (#515404 - in reply to #515365)
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I've posted many times, ALL NEGATIVE about George Laurie. The only way to put a CROOK out of business is DON'T BUY.

If FL lenses are your DRUG OF CHOICE and you keep purchasing MORE DRUGS, the dealer flourishes and gets more people HOOKED.


I definitely feel bad about trying to order something from him even though I read all the warnings. He corresponded with me several times about a couple things up to the point where I sent him money. It was a roll of the dice even though I stuck with just one thing that he said he had in stock. Recently I found some dome light lenses on eBay so I've ordered those even though they don't know who made them. Fortunately I was able to find an NOS taillight lens to replace my broken one.

There aren't many choices where to get stuff for these cars. Some things I can live with what I have but when a part is totally missing or you have a hole in your taillight lens, you have to try what you can.

Frankly, if George Laurie is so bad, the admins of this site should ban him from posting.

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Posted 2016-06-28 6:17 PM (#515405 - in reply to #515220)
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But there IS an alternative:
http://www.kpusabil.se/indexeng.html

Click on the US flag for English.
Click on Reproduction Mopar 55-62
Click on the lens categories.
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Posted 2016-06-28 9:46 PM (#515421 - in reply to #515405)
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StillOutThere - 2016-06-28 3:17 PM

But there IS an alternative:
http://www.kpusabil.se/indexeng.html

Click on the US flag for English.
Click on Reproduction Mopar 55-62
Click on the lens categories.


I see the '60 dome lens on one page but when you go to the one with prices, it's not shown. I wonder if this is the place where Gary Goers gets his lenses? He told me his source in Sweden dried up.
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Posted 2016-06-29 11:49 AM (#515454 - in reply to #515220)
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Doesn't Oz have laws that deal with crooks?
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Posted 2016-06-30 7:16 PM (#515598 - in reply to #515351)
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ram300 - 2016-06-28 5:35 AM

Glenn, I did visit George Laurie many years ago now, probably 11 or 12, anyway his tin shed is/was located in the middle of nowhere covered in bush. It was before the days (at least for me) of GPS and I really thought I was never gonna find my way outta there. You would be astounded/suprised/horrified at where George is putting together these precious pieces.

His workmanship is outstanding. But the way he treats his customers is despicable, no communication, he takes large sums of money in advance and your precious nos lenses etc as patterns, many never see the parts or money again, gone.

I doubt I would ever be tempted to use his services again and I get sick of seeing the forum posts "but he's the only guy doing it and you should be grateful blah, blah,blah. He's unreliable, unethical and dishonest.

For those stupid/desperate enough to deal with George I would strongly recommend PAYMENT ON DELIVERY and not a penny before and never, ever send him your NOS pieces.

Sorry George, but gotta say it how it is......this whole thing has got out of hand you need to make good on these many trusting people you've burnt.
I agree . I never done business with this person and I will not do business with him at all
Owen
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Posted 2016-07-02 10:44 AM (#515740 - in reply to #515220)
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I got everything I paid for, just took awhile
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Posted 2016-07-06 1:46 AM (#516003 - in reply to #515220)
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Tewantin isn't "outback" bushland. My Uncle was the Fire Chief there. It's a part of a huge tourist area on the Queensland State coast called Noosa which is only a couple of hours away from Brisbane which is the capital city of Queensland. I love how some Australians tell overseas people they are from the "outback" but probably haven't even been close to it.. I think it's the whole Crocodile Dundee thing..

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Posted 2016-07-06 12:03 PM (#516033 - in reply to #515220)
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Supposedly my dome light lenses were sent on July 1, 2016 so we'll see if they actually show up. Basically I had to start a PayPal dispute to get his attention. He wrote to me saying that his e-mail system didn't work for a while and that's why he couldn't respond to all my e-mails. He wanted me to close the PayPal dispute before he would send them but I refused as PayPal would not let me restart it once closed. I'll close it once I get the parts.
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Posted 2016-07-06 3:32 PM (#516047 - in reply to #516033)
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I wonder if a professional-grade 3D printer could produce lenses for our cars. I'm sure 3D printing technology is improving all the time. Once this becomes viable, it would be a better alternative than having to wait months and years.

Ron

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Posted 2016-07-06 5:37 PM (#516057 - in reply to #515220)
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Ron, a lot of people keep going on about 3D print this and that, but I have yet to see anything that someone has actually printed.

The idea is of great interest to me, but my thoughts are (after looking into it) that, to print, it builds up layers with melted plastic cord that would have the consistency of whipped cream, therefor, whatever you print will have ridges in it that would have to be sanded and polished out.

It seems to be really hard to find a close up picture of something thats been printed

Its not actually that hard to re cast a part in resin, I got started doing this, but it is expensive buying the silicone for the molds, especially if its a 1 off part (I made a number plate light lens and made the speedo surround for the 60 plymouth dash) but it was a distraction from actually building the car, so I stopped

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Posted 2016-07-06 5:59 PM (#516059 - in reply to #515220)
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Update.
After posting this here, George finally answered my email after 3 years of ignoring my emails.
He apologised and suggested that he return my parts that I sent him 6 years ago and refund the $500 that I am owed.
I have yet to see any evidence of this but will post back here if and when he does.
There are so many people without jobs yet here is a guy with good talents and a sea of people wanting his products yet he can't seem to find the motivation to knuckle down, do the work and deliver. What is it with Mopar parts reproducers...?
Glenn.

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Posted 2016-07-06 6:26 PM (#516065 - in reply to #516047)
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ronbo97 - 2016-07-06 3:32 PM

I wonder if a professional-grade 3D printer could produce lenses for our cars. I'm sure 3D printing technology is improving all the time. Once this becomes viable, it would be a better alternative than having to wait months and years.

Ron



I had a 58 Plymouth grille V made by a professional 3D company after George wouldn't reply to emails... They did it all from a series of different angled photos of the one V. The company sent photos all through the stages to make sure I was happy. It does have tiny ridges like the opposite of a vinyl record but that is all taken care of before sent.. It won me over.
I guess it depends on the material used and the grade of the printer used because I've seen some intricate things that no way could be sanded but are smooth.. There are photos on the net of close ups of things that have just been printed and there are different finishes.

I don't know about making lenses though because of the product the use isn't clear or coloured..



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Posted 2016-07-06 9:54 PM (#516089 - in reply to #515220)
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3d printing is not up to snuff, to expensive and slow to make. One day it will be great.

I have the capacity to make lenses and emblems now. Molding isn't that difficult but the processes are time consuming. Once you get quantity going you can actually make it slightly worth your while.

But these are low production sales, your not going to sell more than a couple so its not worth spending hours and money. I went through probably 100$ in gold paint to find the closest shade alone with my V's.

I have a very large molding hobby store very close and they sell clear poly, I can actually make real stuff now, I was thinking about making some Chrysler hood emblems and other stuff.

I have a pretty good priced steel casting guy and he is now finalizing my shark antennas. Once those get rolling a little I should get the roof ribs going finally.

I am missing a regal lancer emblem so I will make a couple of those for fun.

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Posted 2016-07-06 10:34 PM (#516092 - in reply to #515220)
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Paypal is the only solution with this crook, and seems that his email magically works when Paypal contacted him. He probably still has Australian AOL dial up thought.



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Posted 2016-07-06 11:50 PM (#516099 - in reply to #515220)
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If you're interested in 3D printing this is a good read about Jay Leno. Of course he has the money to buy the best equipment but this is in 2009 so 7 years later technology has taken revolutionary steps.. Just like the first VHS player to the DVD player to the MP4 players.. They still take a little time to replicate but HaHa nowhere as much time as the person who this thread is about.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a4354/4320759/


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Posted 2016-07-06 11:59 PM (#516100 - in reply to #516059)
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FURY - 2016-07-06 2:59 PM

Update.
After posting this here, George finally answered my email after 3 years of ignoring my emails.
He apologised and suggested that he return my parts that I sent him 6 years ago and refund the $500 that I am owed.
I have yet to see any evidence of this but will post back here if and when he does.
There are so many people without jobs yet here is a guy with good talents and a sea of people wanting his products yet he can't seem to find the motivation to knuckle down, do the work and deliver. What is it with Mopar parts reproducers...?
Glenn.


Hopefully we'll both get results. I don't mind waiting for something but the least they could do is communicate.
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Posted 2016-07-07 1:41 AM (#516108 - in reply to #515220)
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Why not just order from KP-USA bilar? They produce the lenses in Sweden .....

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Posted 2016-07-07 9:20 AM (#516118 - in reply to #515220)
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Yes if they have them, that's the place to get them from first. I was thinking of emblems.
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Posted 2016-07-07 9:46 AM (#516123 - in reply to #516108)
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wizard - 2016-07-06 10:41 PM

Why not just order from KP-USA bilar? They produce the lenses in Sweden .....

http://www.kpusabil.se/indexeng.html


I did not know about them until recently. They don't list the dome lenses I needed.
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Posted 2016-07-07 12:44 PM (#516142 - in reply to #515220)
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I'm in need of a pair of tail light lenses for my 60 Desoto. I've emailed KP-USA thru their listed "info@kpusabil.se" address. They list them on the website but have no pictures or prices of them available. Let's see what happens.
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Posted 2016-07-07 7:05 PM (#516172 - in reply to #515220)
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You probably remember this pair on Ebay Greg, $800.00 is what I paid for them just to stay away from the crook...



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Posted 2016-07-07 7:59 PM (#516176 - in reply to #515220)
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Lol, Yes I was in on the bidding but you and two others went well above what I've got to spend. Congratulations on some NOS pieces.
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Posted 2016-07-08 5:28 PM (#516257 - in reply to #515220)
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I ordered two sets of front fender emblems for a '59 Dodge and a set of front parking light lenses. I ordered this stuff well over 10 years ago. I did receive the lenses after about 3 years but still have not received my fender emblems.
I did contact him and he replied that the emblems were finished but just needed to be painted. That was over a year ago and he hasn't replied to my emails since. Again, I have waited over 10 years now. I want to give George all the benefit of the doubt but 10 years + is a mighty long time.
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Posted 2016-07-08 8:40 PM (#516266 - in reply to #515220)
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Theses lenses were for an overseas friend Greg, I would not pay this kind of money for lenses
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Posted 2016-07-09 1:20 AM (#516282 - in reply to #515220)
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I got my dome light lenses from GL today. They look just like the ones I ended up getting from Ebay.
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Posted 2016-07-14 8:51 AM (#516656 - in reply to #516257)
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Just wanted to follow up on a recent email I sent to George. He followed up with this message:

"Hello Gene, boy am I sorry for being so slow with these, I will make sure they go out this coming week, George."

This is in regards to the fender emblems I ordered from him. Will be very happy to receive them. I will post some pics of them on the website when they arrive.
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Posted 2016-07-14 11:04 AM (#516666 - in reply to #515220)
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I planned to be without lenses for a couple of years and George did not let me down. I also planned on him saving me some serious money over the Swedes and he did that too. I got a trunk medallion for my Newport that No One Else Offers. I am darn happy about that.

You whiners dont tell me Im stupid for using him. I GOT EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECTED. If you are not smart enough to manage your expectations, Do Not Blame Me!

He is an artist and if he sucks as a business man, he is clearly not for the faint of heart. SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE. If the conditions were right I would buy from him again... but Never for something I need in a hurry.

Id just as soon no one else buy from him. He'll do my crap quicker!

Regarding 3D printing, a guy I know with a Pontiac with the glow in the dark indian got his done at a university. He couldnt afford any of the few that come up on ebay and those were not pristine. His crap was scanned and this beautiful hood ornament resulted... for under $100. It looks gorgeous when lit up at night.

Id say 3D is here. A very affordable alternative.



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Posted 2016-07-14 1:20 PM (#516673 - in reply to #516666)
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61ChryslerMan -

Regarding the indian head, how close is the 3D printed one to original ? If you had an original and put it side-by-side, could you tell the difference ?

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Posted 2016-07-14 3:06 PM (#516687 - in reply to #516673)
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I saw the result only but it fit into the chrome piece nice and dandy. He had 2 medallions made in clear and he had to reverse paint them. The medallions fit and he did a great job painting them.
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Posted 2016-07-14 6:18 PM (#516703 - in reply to #516687)
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Only a fool would say 'manage your expectations' to someone who has waited 10 years for something they paid for.
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Posted 2016-07-14 6:39 PM (#516707 - in reply to #515220)
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I can understand it if he said it would take two years to get something. But when you order something and he says he'll ship at the end of the week and doesn't, that's where it crosses the line. And the parts weren't that perfect either.
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Posted 2016-07-15 10:01 AM (#516755 - in reply to #515220)
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Sorry, clearly smaller words work better for the sharp tongues in the crowd. I spent my money with the realization i might lose it. It has always been a possibilty with him. Hello, do you only read the last 10 words typed or might you consider researching before you potentially throw your money away. You appear to have gone into this blindly without reading the horror stories. I am a fool, a democrat and every other vile thing you hate because I did the research and was willing to gamble and am not surprised. You want someone to snap at because you are surprised and hurt you lost your money. No one should lose their money but once a few do, anyone, especially a fool like me, expects they may lose theirs as well. May all of your other transactions be well researched and result in exactly what you expected.
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Posted 2016-07-15 10:51 AM (#516757 - in reply to #515220)
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Has this bad behavior by GL been going on for 6 years that it could have been researched? I took a chance with my order, but a cautioned chance, and still had to take measures to get the parts. Obviously the OP took a greater chance and maybe at the time, things weren't so obvious. I don't agree with pasting labels on people based on this subject on either side. You call people fools, he calls you a liberal. Let's just keep the name calling out of it except for the real perpetrator here.
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GregCon
Posted 2016-07-16 11:54 AM (#516825 - in reply to #515220)
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I should add, as Nick points out, that George told me had all I needed on hand and to send the money. So I did. There was no talk of waiting or parts not yet made.

The bottom line is I still operate on the old school ideas which include you take someone's money, you owe them something in return. I know that sort idea has been superceded by the more popular 'screw everyone and everyone and let them sue you if they don't like it. But I'm gonna stick to having character...sorry.
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ronbo97
Posted 2016-07-16 12:33 PM (#516828 - in reply to #516825)
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The key question to ask George is, "Do you have them in stock and ready for immediately delivery". If he says yes, then tell him to hold one for you and you'll send the money.

More likely, he'll respond with, "Well, I should have them done in the next week or two...". Then you respond with, "Please send me an email when they are completed". If you don't hear from him, then at least you haven't lost any money.

Ron

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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-07-17 1:19 AM (#516873 - in reply to #516828)
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ronbo97 - 2016-07-16 9:33 AM

The key question to ask George is, "Do you have them in stock and ready for immediately delivery". If he says yes, then tell him to hold one for you and you'll send the money.

More likely, he'll respond with, "Well, I should have them done in the next week or two...". Then you respond with, "Please send me an email when they are completed". If you don't hear from him, then at least you haven't lost any money.

Ron



I tried that with the 300F taillight lenses. He wouldn't make them unless I paid first. I only needed one side but he only sells them in pairs because "they are so beautiful they will even make NOS ones look bad". Luckily I got an NOS one from Gary Goers instead.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-07-19 7:20 PM (#517113 - in reply to #515220)
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best of all use Paypal, he really don't want his account with them closed, Paypal has 120 days money back I think. That is the only way I would even consider send this crook money.
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GregCon
Posted 2016-07-22 6:01 PM (#517366 - in reply to #517113)
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120 days, unfortunately, is well short of his window of operation.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-07-22 6:29 PM (#517368 - in reply to #517366)
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GregCon - 2016-07-22 3:01 PM

120 days, unfortunately, is well short of his window of operation.


But if he says he has the item and stock and will ship after payment, it's plenty of time. It certainly worked for me. I didn't wait that long though before acting.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-07-22 10:41 PM (#517386 - in reply to #515220)
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he can deliver a package in 15 days if the part is in stock. Hope for the best!
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