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58 Adventurer and 9.50 X 14 tires
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Nick Nichols
Posted 2016-06-25 11:56 AM (#515077)
Subject: 58 Adventurer and 9.50 X 14 tires


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I came across a real nice set of BF Goodrich Silvertown 9.50 X 14 tires. Will these fit on my 58 Adventurer?
I've read where 9.00 X 14 tires were an option but no where have I seen the larger 9.50 tires as an option.
Any info appreciated. Nick
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1960 des
Posted 2016-09-04 5:19 PM (#520512 - in reply to #515077)
Subject: Re: 58 Adventurer and 9.50 X 14 tires



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Hello
  Good question, the best fit for a 9.50 tires ought to be Imperial 1-2-4. These were equipped with 7-inch rims, at least for the 1957 model year. Chrysler 300 6.5 inch rims and 9.00x14 tires.
  What are your rims? it fits most likely but i suspect tires to swell on the rim.
I might be wrong!!!
/Michael
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Windsor59
Posted 2016-09-06 1:14 AM (#520601 - in reply to #520512)
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I had BF Goodrich 9.50 -14 at my last Imperial 57. Perfect and stylish tiers that fills Imperial big wheel. But to big tiers for a Adventurer. (will not look good in my)

Edited by Windsor59 2016-09-06 1:15 AM
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StillOutThere
Posted 2016-09-06 9:03 AM (#520617 - in reply to #515077)
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What is the USDOT date code on the tires you found. I'm asking how ancient are they and do you really want ot mount them on a car and bet your life on them? If there is no date code (because they are THAT old) you really don't want to take the risk to yourself or those around you on the highway.
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1960 des
Posted 2016-09-06 4:34 PM (#520658 - in reply to #520617)
Subject: Re: 58 Adventurer and 9.50 X 14 tires



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Tjoooo 300 was equipped with a special rim profile known as the "security wheel " . Made specifically to maintain the tire remain on the rim at a blow out ..... just the idea to mount an old oversized tire on an Biafra rim should get the most hard-boiled maffioso to recalculate...
/Michael

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58coronet
Posted 2016-11-27 6:49 PM (#527304 - in reply to #515077)
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All Mopar rims of the Forward Look era used "safety rims" with the raised rib just inside the tire bead area. Not exclusive to 300 wheels. Chrysler introduced these in the 1930s. Coincidentally, GM was still not using safety rims in the early 1960s!


Mark
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58coronet
Posted 2016-11-27 6:58 PM (#527306 - in reply to #515077)
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To answer the OP's question, 9.50 x 14 tires are too large for a 58 DeSoto in my opinion. That size would be correct for an Imperial. The DeSoto's rims may not be wide enough. To all members following these tire discussions, please keep in mind: tire manufacturers then, as now, followed an "aspect ratio": As the tire height increased, so did the cross section width, requiring a wider rim to properly accomodate this large size tire. It isn't all just the "tall ess" of a tire, then as now.

Mark
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StillOutThere
Posted 2016-11-27 9:33 PM (#527322 - in reply to #515077)
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I don't understand the hobby's fascination, or is it obsession?, with retaining OEM narrow steel wheels. And very rarely can any 6" or 6.5" OEMs be located. The originals are too narrow (most 5" or 5.5" wide) to install modern radial tires because the new tires have lower aspect ratios so larger sizes are needed to get a diameter similar to what was on your car when new.

'57-60 Chrysler 300s had 6.5" wide 14inch wheels. And had a 29" diameter 900 x 14 tire.

Buy new 7" wide wheels from one of the aftermarket suppliers today like Stockton or Vintiques. And run 225 or 235" tires. You will love the ride, the control, the safety, the braking. And no worries about what stresses those 60 year old wheels had as abuse to crack them or bend them.

I'm buying new 15 x 7" wheels for the '56 Dodge convertible I'm building with mild makeover. '57 Dodge Hemi install, GM overdrive automatic, front disc brakes, later model limited slip rear axle. Probably 225 x 15 radial white walls.
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58coronet
Posted 2016-11-28 8:41 AM (#527344 - in reply to #527322)
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StillOutThere - 2016-11-27 9:33 PM

I don't understand the hobby's fascination, or is it obsession?, with retaining OEM narrow steel wheels. And very rarely can any 6" or 6.5" OEMs be located. The originals are too narrow (most 5" or 5.5" wide) to install modern radial tires because the new tires have lower aspect ratios so larger sizes are needed to get a diameter similar to what was on your car when new.

'57-60 Chrysler 300s had 6.5" wide 14inch wheels. And had a 29" diameter 900 x 14 tire.

Buy new 7" wide wheels from one of the aftermarket suppliers today like Stockton or Vintiques. And run 225 or 235" tires. You will love the ride, the control, the safety, the braking. And no worries about what stresses those 60 year old wheels had as abuse to crack them or bend them.

I'm buying new 15 x 7" wheels for the '56 Dodge convertible I'm building with mild makeover. '57 Dodge Hemi install, GM overdrive automatic, front disc brakes, later model limited slip rear axle. Probably 225 x 15 radial white walls.


Don't understand? Originality perhaps? 8.00x14 Goodyear Super Cushions are large enough for any57-61 Forwardlook except Imperial. What's not to like?
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58coronet
Posted 2016-11-28 8:43 AM (#527345 - in reply to #515077)
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If the original steel rims are not bent or too rusty, they're fine. Age has nothing to do with it.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2016-11-28 9:01 AM (#527347 - in reply to #527345)
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If you don't feel that 75,000 or 150,000, or a totally unknown number of miles have put stresses on wheels sometimes causing cracks either radially in the felloe of the wheel or at the mounting lugs, then drive on. 

I've seen a significant number of OEM wheels fail during hobby use.   So far, in my personal experience, none have caused serious or fatal injury.   Then there are the hobby car accidents we read about happening but never hear the result of any investigation of cause.  I assure you some of those are wheel failures.  And indeed some are fatal.

How many hobby cars have at least one wheel on the road that came out of a junk yard or from a ratty parts car?   What has that wheel gone through prior to your ownership?

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58coronet
Posted 2016-11-28 4:31 PM (#527401 - in reply to #515077)
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Fair enough, I'm sure it can happen. People have different levels of adversity to risk. Some install disc brakes, some install dual master cylinders etc.....lets face it, just driving an old car is dangerous compared to a modern car. Me, i also ride my motorcycle 15,000 miles a year...with all the proper protective gear. I prefer to keep my 58 Coronet in top ORIGINAL mechanical condition.
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