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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-05-12 3:55 PM (#511399)
Subject: Waterless Engine Coolant



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The cooling system on my 300F seems to be in good shape except that the lower tank seam on the radiator has a leak. The coolant is nice and clean and the car runs cool.

When I have the radiator out to be repaired, I'm considering changing to waterless engine coolant. http://www.evanscooling.com/

This stuff is supposed to work better than standard coolant. No corrosion problems or boiling over and is a lifetime product. All positives for a car that is not used all the time. Of course it is an expensive change over as you have to flush out the existing system when you do it.

Has anyone else here used it?

Thanks, Nick.
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wizard
Posted 2016-05-12 4:20 PM (#511400 - in reply to #511399)
Subject: Re: Waterless Engine Coolant



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I have thought about it Nick, it works well, lt that's what I hear. The cleansing process is costly, as the coolant. One must absolutely make sure that the heater core, radiator, Engine block and freeze plugs as well as hoses are in excellent shape.....

In my case, I'm not sure about the state of my heater core, and freeze plugs....
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60 dart
Posted 2016-05-12 6:09 PM (#511413 - in reply to #511399)
Subject: Re: Waterless Engine Coolant



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at over 50$ a gallon , it oought to change itself -------------------------------------------later
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ronbo97
Posted 2016-05-12 7:11 PM (#511423 - in reply to #511413)
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So what happens when you're at a club meet many miles from home and you discover that your cooling system has a leak ? Can you add water ? Or let's say that you need a gallon of this stuff five years from now and you discover that the company is out of business ?

Ron

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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-05-12 7:48 PM (#511426 - in reply to #511423)
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ronbo97 - 2016-05-12 4:11 PM

So what happens when you're at a club meet many miles from home and you discover that your cooling system has a leak ? Can you add water ? Or let's say that you need a gallon of this stuff five years from now and you discover that the company is out of business ?

Ron



They say you can add water to it but then you'll need to replace it later. Some forums say that you can heat up the coolant in a big pot and boil off the water and then reuse it.

Also, they seem to have been around for a long time. I guess all these things are risks and it's not cheap but I'm not looking to do the cheapest things on a car that cost me a lot of money.

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wizard
Posted 2016-05-13 1:49 AM (#511459 - in reply to #511399)
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Then there's the back to basic routine guys; I have "solved" many overheating issues on cars by flushing out the cooling system (sometimes using a cooling system flush) and filling up the cooling system with distilled water and ethylene glycol in a 50/50% mixture. Also, checking the radiator cap and the function of the thermostat.

In the old days, it was recommended to use rain water for the cooling systems due to that there is no calcium in it. Since then, this knowledge has been forgotten and many use normal tap water with calcium that will create an isulating coating inside the engine block and the radiator.

Ron has a point and that's one of the reasons why I didn't use the waterless cooling fluid - clearly, the price is another....
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57desoto
Posted 2016-05-13 6:47 AM (#511464 - in reply to #511459)
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If you just want to give your coolant a "boost", I suggest "Purple Ice". It can be added to "normal" coolant and helps immensely. I use it in my Adventurer.
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wizard
Posted 2016-05-13 8:19 AM (#511467 - in reply to #511399)
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Cool Ed I read up on the Purple ice - practically it's a water wettener, changing the surface tension of the water. This could be a help for those who runs a Little hot even though the system has been cleaned and flushed and filled up with correct water/glycol mixture.

Thank's for sharing!
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sconut1
Posted 2016-05-14 12:12 AM (#511519 - in reply to #511399)
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I've never used the Evans stuff myself. I spoke with a fellow at a show here who switched to it and had "overheating" issues. Not with the coolant boiling over, I think the Evans stuff has a very high boiling point... his comment was that the car was running hotter on the gauge that it used to. He switched back to Glycol and hasn't had issues. His story as told to me.

Myself, just as an opinion, I personally think that the Evans product is a solution in search of a problem. For what its worth, I've heard very good things about purple ice myself. As Wizard said, if you tend to run a little warm, it would probably be very beneficial to use.
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Chopper John
Posted 2016-07-14 11:30 AM (#516670 - in reply to #511399)
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Jay Leno's Garage videos on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PykrgzWPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRLXKW2ph0w
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51coronet
Posted 2016-08-09 11:05 AM (#518693 - in reply to #511399)
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Expensive for what it does. Modern coolants do a great job of stopping corrosion when used with distilled water. The boiling point is pretty high with modern coolants as well. I would only consider Evans with a completely leak tested proven system.

I pulled out my heater core and that thing has so many tiny pin hole leaks everywhere its insane. I would not recommend spending the money on this coolant unless the hoses are replaced, and the system is leak tested beyond 16 psi just to be sure.
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Mopar1
Posted 2016-08-11 10:48 AM (#518840 - in reply to #511459)
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wizard - 2016-05-13 12:49 AM


In the old days, it was recommended to use rain water for the cooling systems due to that there is no calcium in it. Since then, this knowledge has been forgotten and many use normal tap water with calcium that will create an isulating coating inside the engine block and the radiator.

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Distilled water for the same reasons....
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