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OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Hi Guy's, You asked for pic's these are all I really have that are worth while looking at. (IMG_1352 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1352 (Small).jpg (50KB - 312 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | You'll have to forgive me I'm still learning how this forum works here's another (IMG_1344 (Small).jpg) (1 (Small).jpg) (2 (3) (Small).jpg) (3 (Small).jpg) (4 (Small).jpg) (5 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1344 (Small).jpg (44KB - 279 downloads) 1 (Small).jpg (55KB - 283 downloads) 2 (3) (Small).jpg (21KB - 272 downloads) 3 (Small).jpg (63KB - 293 downloads) 4 (Small).jpg (57KB - 284 downloads) 5 (Small).jpg (50KB - 308 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Wow! She looks great, Graham! That interior looks spotless! I like the exterior color combo as well; the '61 Dodge wheelcovers with spinners look cool. Pete | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Thanks Pete it is code# PL3 which is Platinum & Plum Red roof & front guard same colour. Didn't know they were 61 wheel covers thanks. The guy I got it from had the seats all redone the door trims are original. Cheers Graham | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | My very 1st FL car was a 1 owner '60 Savoy 4dr sedan HL rings look good along with the rest of the car. Nothing beats the fins of a '60 Plymouth. | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well it has been a bit of a wait but the Fury is finally home now to start work getting her back on the road. First off is to get the trans working & sort out the noisy starter. Here's a few photo's of yesterdays arrival. The Plymouth girls finally meet Edited by OzFury 2015-11-10 4:05 PM (014 (Small).JPG) (030 (Small).JPG) (039 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 014 (Small).JPG (51KB - 298 downloads) 030 (Small).JPG (54KB - 279 downloads) 039 (Small).JPG (51KB - 298 downloads) | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | How nervous were you while they forked it off the truck Good luck with it | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Not as nervous as the forklift driver. You'll be seeing regular updates & questions | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Look forward to watching the progress The car is so weird compared to the Aussie stuff, it will get you scratching your head, thats why I had to do the dodge to work out how it all worked I have to say though, that before I got mine, all of my resto work had been on holden and fords, mopar was just valiants that I fixed as customer cars over time, so I didnt talk fluent mopar Here, you have a head start on me | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 836 Location: Layton, Utah | How did he get the fork lift off. Way cool car !!! | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | ttotired - 2015-11-10 8:21 PM Look forward to watching the progress The car is so weird compared to the Aussie stuff, it will get you scratching your head, thats why I had to do the dodge to work out how it all worked I have to say though, that before I got mine, all of my resto work had been on holden and fords, mopar was just valiants that I fixed as customer cars over time, so I didnt talk fluent mopar Here, you have a head start on me It will all start soon I just want to get it drivable then I'll get into the paint work found some very small blisters I think body work will be minimal. Yeah I been playing with the Aussie Vals for awhile now (almost 30 years I've also had a 39 Dodge & a 51 Dodge. I'm still waiting for the paperwork & keys to the boot to get here via post. | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | 60crossram - 2015-11-10 10:20 PM Thanks been wanting a 60 model for awhile now & I've got 1 now. How did he get the fork lift off. Way cool car !!! Which 1 ? the 1 he is using or the 1 on the trailer ? The 1 he used was not on the truck it was the depots...the 1 on the truck was delivered somewhere else so not sure how they got it off. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2631 Location: Minor Hill, TN | Very nice | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well had a spare hour yesterday so connected the battery & turned the key the starter let out a big scream & it didn't crank. I turn the motor a bit with the fan & hit the starter again she cranked for about 20 seconds & fired into life. The load starter noise I was told about when cranking I think is not a issue as when it cranked it sounded normal to me only when the starter & ring gear didn't engage did it make a loud noise. So I am on the lookout for another ring gear. Second thing I did was try to select a gear so I pushed the D button nothing happen....I have found a workshop not to far from home that deals with these old transmissions all the time so I will get them to check it out. What auto paint was being used in the US in the 80's enamel, acrylic, 2 pack ? I'm about to start stripping it back & just a bit curious. Graham | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Thats not original paint on that car Graham, I suspect its acrylic (mostly because of the clear) If you use enamel it will go over acrylic ok, just not the other way unless you use an isolation coat (special primer) Next time it doesnt start, leave it where it is and take the starter off and look at the ring gear Curious about the starter and pinion as well | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Yeah it was repainted in the 80's....I have seen 2 pack clear do the same thing either way there's a lot of sanding ahead. Will do I'll get some pic's of it as well | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | I dont envy you getting it off are you going to do the lot or just the top/flakey bits? | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | The lot as I don't think we could get a good match as the paint is 30 odd years old sanding sanding sanding it'll start in a few weeks once the trans & ring gear are sorted | ||
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | 1960's to 1980's Chrysler Corp. used acrylic enamel, but in the 1980's started using color/clear coat. Lots of problems with the stuff they used in the 1980's for the colour / clear coat - the clear coat would peal or fog up. On my 1983 Imperial the all the paint layers, primer to clear coat, start lifting off in pieces on the roof when the car turned 20. My 1988 Plymouth Caravelle Salon has the clear coat fogging and both the clear coat and the colour layers have actually worn off in some spots. Now have surface rust in those areas. | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Hi Bill, Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ? I thought all metallic were colour clear coat. Cheers Graham | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well the keys arrived today & I opened the treasure trunk. (boot (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- boot (Small).jpg (40KB - 310 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well finally home after working away for a few weeks. Started the Fury it seemed to not want to idle so I replaced the old carb with a 600 Holley I had in the shed idles sweet now also changed the points. Time is running out to get to the transmission shop before Christmas so I booked in for next year. I will be starting on sanding the paint back ready for painting. I will update with pic's as work progresses. Cheers Gra | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | COOL CAR!! CONGRATS!! | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well been removing all the bright work to get ready to sand not nasty surprises hidden only door handles & side mirror to go. (006 (Small).JPG) (004 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 006 (Small).JPG (62KB - 267 downloads) 004 (Small).JPG (65KB - 267 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | NICE! I like your dog too! Great car you have there. . | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | FIN ME - 2016-01-01 10:28 AM NICE! I like your dog too! Great car you have there. . Thanks only rust found was at in the lower right rear 1/4 at the bottom of the inner none around the screens I'm couldn't be happier with the condition of the body. It's going to be the original Platinum but with a candy red roof & front section. As for the dog that's Miss T our female English Staffordshire she isn't much help maybe her partner in crime will be in a up coming photo if he gets in the way. I think the left rear 1/4 has been changed at some stage as I found this tag after I removed the boot trim to unbolt the tail lights. Cheers Graham (017 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 017 (Small).JPG (38KB - 291 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well finally got the Fury back from the transmission shop after 3 weeks. All I can say is won't be going back there again. Ok so the only thing they did was check the oil pressure in the trans which we already knew was there was no fluid being pumped. I am about to pull the motor & trans out while I keep doing the body & paint the trans can be sorted I now have a guy who knows what he is doing he rebuild the trans for Dodge known as Atomic. If I need to source parts for the trans were is the best place to look ? Cheers Gra (1960 Atomic.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1960 Atomic.jpg (137KB - 272 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 836 Location: Layton, Utah | Looks like that Fury came from my state of Utah. I don't recall ever seeing it. What is the story on it ? I don't recall the story on it or I missed it. I sure like the 60 Fury's. Ever since my 60 Johan wagon model that I built when I was a young whipper snapper. Which I still have of course. Plymouth lives !!! | ||
Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | OzFury - 2015-11-14 1:40 PM Hi Bill, Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ? I thought all metallic were colour clear coat. Cheers Graham Acrylic urethane and colour/clear coats appeared in the 1980's. The products have improved over the years and the paint jobs were much more stable and durable by the 1990's than they were in the 1980's. Prior to clear coat, cars were done either in lacquer or enamel. And that includes metallics. Metallics first appeared around 1932, enamel paints on cars in 1934, and lacquer paints in 1924. Prior to that colour was done using colour varnishes (usually three coats), which back in those pre-varathane days took about a week to dry, per coat. Which is why Henry Ford adopted Japan black enamel - it could be heat dried in about an hour. Acrylic lacquer paint appeared around 1959 and acrylic enamel around 1965. Edited by Chrycoman 2016-02-15 5:38 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | I bought my trans gasket kits from fatsco http://www.fatsco.net/?gclid=CObz34Xz-soCFYSjvQodqcwE5A All you need for the internals (seals and clutches), I got bands done in Australia, but they were supplied by a company here in Perth, so I dont know exactly who did them I dont know who you can get that drive sleeve that I think is broken from, I havnt ran across any in all the parts I have here Need to move quickly now Graham, start to get cold again in a month or 2 | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | 60crossram - 2016-02-13 3:42 PM Looks like that Fury came from my state of Utah. I don't recall ever seeing it. What is the story on it ? I don't recall the story on it or I missed it. I sure like the 60 Fury's. Ever since my 60 Johan wagon model that I built when I was a young whipper snapper. Which I still have of course. Plymouth lives !!! Sorry for the slow reply we have had internet issues. Yes it was a Utah car the guy I brought if from here brought it in 2007. the story goes something like this. the son of the original owner had the Fury restored in the early to mid 80's he did about 500 miles in it. I was told he was a mercenary & he had to go off to fight & never returned home. His wife kept the Fury in the shed then in 2007 she went on a holiday & the 2 sons moved it into the yard so they could put there cars in the shed. A guy quickly snapped it up seeing it sitting there & within a week had it on Ebay were they guy I brought from got it. It was shipped to west Australia until I brought it last year it now resides on the other side of the island. Cheers Graham | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Chrycoman - 2016-02-16 9:29 AM OzFury - 2015-11-14 1:40 PM Hi Bill, Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ? I thought all metallic were colour clear coat. Cheers Graham Acrylic urethane and colour/clear coats appeared in the 1980's. The products have improved over the years and the paint jobs were much more stable and durable by the 1990's than they were in the 1980's. Prior to clear coat, cars were done either in lacquer or enamel. And that includes metallics. Metallics first appeared around 1932, enamel paints on cars in 1934, and lacquer paints in 1924. Prior to that colour was done using colour varnishes (usually three coats), which back in those pre-varathane days took about a week to dry, per coat. Which is why Henry Ford adopted Japan black enamel - it could be heat dried in about an hour. Acrylic lacquer paint appeared around 1959 and acrylic enamel around 1965. Hi Bill, Thanks for the info. Cheers Graham | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | ttotired - 2016-02-16 10:20 AM I bought my trans gasket kits from fatsco http://www.fatsco.net/?gclid=CObz34Xz-soCFYSjvQodqcwE5A All you need for the internals (seals and clutches), I got bands done in Australia, but they were supplied by a company here in Perth, so I dont know exactly who did them I dont know who you can get that drive sleeve that I think is broken from, I havnt ran across any in all the parts I have here Need to move quickly now Graham, start to get cold again in a month or 2 Hi Mick, Back on line just had the nbn hooked up only took them 2 weeks to workout the problems. After talking with Tom the transmission guy I am more at ease he knows these transmissions & has the contacts for parts if needed. I have also found out that 1960 Chrysler Royal's have the same transmission so got everybody keeping an eye out for 1 for spare parts. Your right time is passing by quickly & I need to get a move on before winter gets here. I do have a plan B as I have access to a paint shop if needed. Cheers Graham | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Hi Guy's, Well here's a few update to the progress of the 60. Been busy sanding got the bonnet (hood), rear 1/4's, roof & boot (trunk) sanded & primed not much to see but grey primer didn't find any nasty surprises so far. (010 (Small).JPG) (011 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 010 (Small).JPG (49KB - 259 downloads) 011 (Small).JPG (44KB - 256 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Also pulled the motor & trans today finally get to have a look & see why the trans isn't working. If you look close you can see the box wasn't bolted up all the bolts were loose as you can see. Forgot to mention it was suppose to have been rebuilt 500 miles ago look at all the crud on it I don't think so. Edited by OzFury 2016-04-02 6:58 AM (005 (Medium).JPG) (003 (Medium).JPG) (007 (Medium).JPG) (008 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 005 (Medium).JPG (114KB - 272 downloads) 003 (Medium).JPG (131KB - 259 downloads) 007 (Medium).JPG (128KB - 276 downloads) 008 (Small).JPG (39KB - 262 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | And finally last thing today was split the motor & box to find this...No wonder it didn't drive (016 (Medium).JPG) (015 (Medium).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 016 (Medium).JPG (75KB - 255 downloads) 015 (Medium).JPG (81KB - 277 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Been a little while now since I did all this to my dodge, but I am not seeing your problem, the tags are still on the pump drive and the splines look all right All the trans bolts being loose as they were would be more likely the problem, as in, the tags most likely would not have been engaged inside the torque converter, so no fluid pressure from the front pump I think its funny that it all looks like it does, you told me when you bought it that the guys son spent a day or so under it trying to get it driving, bloke must have spent a day or so sleeping under it not to see that I cant even see witness marks on the bolts from sockets ect to say it was undone and just sat back in Didnt you have starter pinion problems as well? This explains that as well I would be tempted to just wash the whole lot, tighten it all up and put it back in and see if it works | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Hi Mick, the first pic of the sleeve show were it was when the trans was removed it wasn't engauged in the pump but was in the converter so it has been turning with the motor hence the wear on the splines on the shaft. I pushed it into the pump & the pump spun freely by hand. There was a lot of metallic in the bottom of my tray I m sure the front bearing is toast. Anyway it's getting a freshen up a new sleeve before it goes back in. I do believe I might have been told a few untruths as while I have it running playing with the trans coolant was flowing out of the heater box down the fire wall the previous owner said he had it running a few times for 20mins or more while he was playing with it if that was the case he'd of run out of coolant. I'm going to remove the heater & install a vintage air set up as we plan to cruise the wheels off this thing. As for the starter once I got the car here I don't think it had much of an issue I think he was just not use to old cars. Yes there are a few worn teeth that need to be looked at but it's only played up on me twice I just move the engine by hand a inch or so & it fire right up. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Well I finally have a few days off work has been so busy haven't had a chance to do anything to the Fury. I had my first weekend off in months last weekend went to Sydney for the All Chrysler Day here's a few pic's of the Forward look cars there | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Bugger forgot how this site works try this (IMG_0123 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0114 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0001 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0012 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0120 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0121 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0123 (Small).JPG (77KB - 218 downloads) IMG_0114 (Small).JPG (74KB - 223 downloads) IMG_0001 (Small).JPG (84KB - 226 downloads) IMG_0012 (Small).JPG (91KB - 227 downloads) IMG_0120 (Small).JPG (81KB - 229 downloads) IMG_0121 (Small).JPG (68KB - 214 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 977 Location: Sydney, Australia | I'm an idiot. I forgot all about it! Was there many other FL cars? Edited by matte 2016-11-11 4:18 PM | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | matte - 2016-11-12 8:18 AM I'm an idiot. I forgot all about it! Was there many other FL cars? There were also a few 58-59 Chrysler Royals 1 being an Ambo & a few R & S series Valiant's. It was a great new venue 240 MoPar's. (IMG_0108 (Small).JPG) (IMG_9982 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0100 (Small).JPG) (IMG_0060 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0108 (Small).JPG (69KB - 223 downloads) IMG_9982 (Small).JPG (88KB - 216 downloads) IMG_0100 (Small).JPG (77KB - 217 downloads) IMG_0060 (Small).JPG (83KB - 223 downloads) | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | OK I know I slack with updates but here is were I'm up to now. Body is painted just assembling it I have today mated the motor & trans together I will fit it tomorrow I have to say I have never had a project with such a good body I have not had to cut out any rust only clean up some surface rust & some very small dings even around the screens is perfect. here's a few pic's (20180330_140126_resized (Small).jpg) (20180330_124931_resized (Small).jpg) (20180330_124907_resized (Small).jpg) (20180330_124841_resized (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20180330_140126_resized (Small).jpg (57KB - 195 downloads) 20180330_124931_resized (Small).jpg (53KB - 193 downloads) 20180330_124907_resized (Small).jpg (60KB - 195 downloads) 20180330_124841_resized (Small).jpg (55KB - 184 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 977 Location: Sydney, Australia | Mate that is coming along really nicely. Keep them coming. Love the sign above the driveway. | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Ok been a few weeks here's an up date...Front doors now painted & back motor & trans sitting in place & started installing front panels (20180330_140126_resized_1 (Small) (Small).jpg) (20180331_092448_resized (Small).jpg) (20180505_103000 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20180330_140126_resized_1 (Small) (Small).jpg (57KB - 176 downloads) 20180331_092448_resized (Small).jpg (38KB - 170 downloads) 20180505_103000 (Small).jpg (78KB - 174 downloads) | ||
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Location: North Australia | You do good work Mister! That car is coming along nicely. I dig seeing Blokes doing their own backyard (or front, or shed) work. How did you go with the trans? Keen to hear what was needed in the end, Also keen to see progress as you get it road ready Steve. Edited by 60 Imp 2018-05-10 7:00 AM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Great looking paint on there. Good job! | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | Thanks guy's we try to do as much as we can at home for me that's were the fun is. The only things we get done are interior trim & transmission work & some engine machining. I was hoping that this 1 would have been finished by now but time & weather have hindered my progress but I can now see the day for cruising is getting close. I was told restoring a Forward Look car would be an education & it has had a few surprises mostly finding parts but with some help & guidance from forum members we have been managing the biggest job was the trans we had to replace the front pump rotor & pump drive sleeve also the front hub & stator support had the bands redone at a place in Sydney. Motor was stripped down cleaned new bearings rings heads done with hardened seats & valves I assembled it. Still not 100% sure about the mating of the motor & trans as the late model block & early bellhousing don't have locating dowels fingers crossed it's ok otherwise I'll be on the lookout for a early block. More updates soon Cheers Gra | ||
OzFury |
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Veteran Posts: 172 Location: Newcastle, NSW AUSTRALIA | OK sorry I've not updated sooner but had our computer die & just getting back to everything. Fury doesn't look much different but I have progressed with installing trunk & door rubbers. I wasn't brave enough to start the motor not knowing if the trans was inline so I have found a 60 model 318 Poly that I've pulled down to rebuild. Pic's to follow after the weekend Cheers Gra | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | what? your old motor was shot? why just not get a new trans? or you grabbed a trans off a 318? | ||
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