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guyman

Posted 2015-05-16 3:22 AM (#478443 - in reply to #478022)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Getting close to firing up the desoto....

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Posted 2015-06-12 2:21 AM (#481211 - in reply to #478022)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Pulling this beast in and out if the garage has become a big chore....not to mention a big pain in my lower back..my garage sits on a small hill...so pushing it in and out has become a family affair....Literally...every time I wanna move it, have to call in the troops to help push it.........so I went and bought an electric winch and bolted it to the floor of my garage!!!...and by the push of a button..can now take my old FL cars that are not running yet, in and out of the garage with ease!...Man what a difference a couple hundred bucks makes. Runs off any car battery and has plenty of pulling power to get them 'ol FL heavy cars like my 60 Desoto up and down the driveway...and the best part is I don't have to call my family out to move the darn thing when I need it moved!!!!at 2 in the morning!!!! yes..love it when a plan comes together.

Will post some pictures soon!

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Posted 2015-06-12 6:20 AM (#481223 - in reply to #472747)
Subject: RE: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Cool, great idea. Make sure you check out your rigging thoroughly, use shackles for a positive connection, or use some kind of safety connection, don;t want that Desoto spearing across the street!

Steve.

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Posted 2015-06-12 4:38 PM (#481275 - in reply to #481223)
Subject: RE: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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LOL!....I chock the tires every couple of feet till I get it out/in of the garage. I have already thought of that scenario... Thanks for the safety tip.

Dave L.

Posted 2015-06-12 8:41 PM (#481305 - in reply to #472747)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Thanks for posting the updates, the photos are a big help. How challenging was it to break free and remove the subframe, then reinstall/align? Sounds like the way to go and tempting, but I've already let to scope of the rebuild on my my 60 Windsor creep too far.

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Posted 2015-06-12 8:57 PM (#481308 - in reply to #481305)
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A couple photos of the winch system in my garage...what a help that thing is...WOW. got the whole garage cleaned out today with NO help!...sweeeeet.

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Posted 2015-06-12 11:21 PM (#481324 - in reply to #472747)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Why isnt your work bench 3 or 4 layers deep in assorted things

Its just not right to not have to dig for stuff thats been there for ages

If you have put everything away, that means its lost forever as everyone knows that the proper place to store anything is on the bench and anything that you would do on a work bench must be done on the floor

guyman

Posted 2015-06-13 12:57 AM (#481332 - in reply to #481324)
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Well my friend., that is EXACTLY why I just spent three full days in 105 degree heat cleaning up...because I COULD NOT find a darn thing! I had five years of dust on the top of that work bench, kept getting metal shavings in my hands...got tired of that, so had to clean it up..haha

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Posted 2015-06-16 3:33 PM (#481701 - in reply to #472747)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Guy---Great work on the DeSoto. Your work seems meticulous. Love your winch! Fred Jr. went nuts when he spied that Fox convertible in image 60.c. (Stick?) He's already bugging me two years before he gets his license. If you want to sell let me know. Keep the thread going on the DeSoto progress.---Fred

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Posted 2015-06-16 4:24 PM (#481708 - in reply to #472747)
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Love the Fox bodies. I had a 88 notchback 5.0 LX stick shift I bought at auction from the Highway Patrol. It was one of my all time favorite cars. Gave it to my daughter who also loved it. Unfortunately she had an accident and it got totaled. Replaced it with 90 vert with automatic. The auto sucked a lot of the performance from it. She sold that to get a 2001 GT with a stick. I've got a 99 GT but I actually think that in many ways the Fox was a better car although the 99 and 01 are a lot faster.

guyman

Posted 2015-06-16 9:48 PM (#481741 - in reply to #481708)
Subject: Re: Updates on my '60 Desoto

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Well., truth be told., the Mustangs are close to my heart too., I have owned at least 60 and counting!

I had two 84 1/2 GT 350 4spd Convertibles., One had a 400 hp built balanced 302 in it...I pulled that motor for my 68 GT (on the docket for restore) and sold the body...I still have the other GT350/4spd/convertible, restored...but when my brother showed up one day recently he fell in love with it...so I think it's gonna be heading to Phoenix. The other is a 92 LX convertible (green car in the photo)...my wife's daily driver. She wanted horsepower to get on the busy highway to go to work., so that fit the bill...and its a convertible to boot...

guyman

Posted 2015-07-10 12:42 AM (#484085 - in reply to #481741)
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Getting really close to starting the painting process. Just finished up all the entry jams and gutted and sanded/primed the doors today....my daughter is not shy to pose for photos!....LOL

Also updated my winch system in the garage to a 9000 lb unit., the 5500 lb unit was just too small....the 9000 lb unit has no troubles pulling the Desoto back into the garage from the slanted driveway I have.

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guyman

Posted 2015-07-11 11:45 PM (#484196 - in reply to #484085)
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Sound deadener/heat sheild is mostly installed....just waiting on my "cushion" deadener to do the floors.

This stuff is awesome., first time I have used it, and man., was missing out...I always use the glue in stuff., this is pressure sensitive., just cut, peel the backing off and install..uses a small roller to make it stick good. I bought one roll ($80) and it was a perfect amount to do what I wanted to do...I will use a jute backing padded heat sheild product for the bottom of the floorboards for more cushion when installing the carpet.

Cheers.

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guyman

Posted 2015-07-29 1:13 AM (#485508 - in reply to #484196)
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Finally slinging some paint! (Would post some photos but having a hard time uploading for some reason)., lately been having problems...

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Posted 2015-07-29 4:14 AM (#485516 - in reply to #472747)
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I think we have to wait for Dave to get time to sort the picture problem out

Always good to get paint happening

guyman

Posted 2015-08-02 3:00 AM (#485869 - in reply to #485516)
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Movin' along., finished all the jam painting this weekend., so the car is back together again. Top is done too....painted it off white, cream color.

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guyman

Posted 2015-08-14 3:32 AM (#487101 - in reply to #485516)
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Starting to look like an Adventurer...been restoring and buffing stainless trim past week....I think there are around 40 pieces of exterior stainless to do. I only have maybe close to half of it done...very time consuming , but what a difference...WOW....worth the time and energy....

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Posted 2015-08-14 6:40 AM (#487110 - in reply to #472747)
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Polishing all stainless properly is really worth of the effort when its done. I am plannig to do it next winter weekend evenings in my garage, listening rock and roll, taking some beers and polishing stainless

What kind of prosess you have? do you sand scratcehs, hammer dings and dents, do wet sanding and different grind abrasive papers and waxes - or just polish them.

guyman

Posted 2015-08-14 3:19 PM (#487146 - in reply to #487110)
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Well, as you know, over the past 60 years, these pieces take some abuse, so I am fixing every piece....dings, dents etc....hard to find perfect ones, so I learned how to fix them and polish. Depending on how bad the scratches are will depend on which grit you have to use to sand out the scratches....in general, I have been starting with a 240 grit, then 400, then 600 wet, 800 wet... All by hand..then an air orbital with 1,000 and 1,500 grit...then it's on the the polishing wheels, first with black rouge on a stitched wheel, then brown rouge...then the final polish with green rouge on a soft buff wheel....then after all that is done....may have to hit some areas and start the whole process over on the areas that need help.

The dents require a lot if time to get them out....I spent about three hours working on one of my rock guards...then with that process...have to start with a file...and file down the high spots etc.....sounds harsh but you have to do it., then start with the sanding process....they turned out great....

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Posted 2015-08-14 6:25 PM (#487161 - in reply to #472747)
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Be careful with the beers polishing stainless

The polishing wheels can be pretty savage

guyman

Posted 2015-08-15 12:48 AM (#487193 - in reply to #487161)
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Been there already..haha....easy to catch an edge while polishing....already had to fix two pcs. But., it's for sure worth doing the polishing....man, what a difference.

guyman

Posted 2015-08-27 8:56 PM (#488152 - in reply to #487193)
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Stainless is ALMOST done, one long pc left for the rear quarter..
I had a couple pretty bad pieces and with a little hard work., got them fixed....one of my rock guards was squished flat....took me three days to rebuild it., came out really nice!

It's been an experience restoring all these pcs....but well worth all the hours invested. It's gonna make the car shine like a diamond!

Guy

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Posted 2015-08-28 3:43 AM (#488176 - in reply to #487161)
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ttotired - 2015-08-14 6:25 PM

Be careful with the beers polishing stainless

The polishing wheels can be pretty savage

I will for sure

Few years ago, I was working with my rat rod saturday night. After few hours of work I started welding but something was wrong all the time, machine did'nt work like it used to work, adjusted it many times and did testing welds. When finally welded a seam into a car it looked quite ok but wtf it was in a wrong place.
I figured out there were only 3 empty cans on the floor... But i also have a Jägermeister bottle in a medicine cabinet, how many times I opened that door??? uups.
I do not keep liquers in my garage any more, but beer is ok

Adventurer 60

Posted 2015-08-28 3:48 AM (#488178 - in reply to #472747)
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Nice work guyman! Iam going to do it quite similar way you did. I got a 300G and lot less stainless thank god.

De55

Posted 2015-08-28 8:16 AM (#488186 - in reply to #472747)
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What incredible work!! Absolutely gorgeous.

guyman

Posted 2015-08-29 12:14 AM (#488250 - in reply to #488186)
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It's a process with this stainless....if you have light scratches....you may be able to start sanding them with 800 wet....heavier scratches may take a heavier grit like 600 wet....or you may have to go down to 240 even to start with to get rid of heavy scratches.I learned after doing these that usually the light scratches come out with the 800 wet..then 1000,1200 and 1500... All wet....then buff buff..starting with a spiral pad with black and brown rouge..then a a soft buff wheel with green rouge.

If you have dents it's a different story....those require a lot more work...and require a file to start after the dents have been worked out to get rid of the high spots, then 120 grit on up to 1500.... May take 3,4,5 hours to do one piece if there are dents in the trim piece. If the dent is on a concave surface...you can't use a file I have learned....so I used a drimmel tool and that takes a lot of trial and error...if it's a small dent in a curved area..be prepared to spend a lot of time getting those dents out and sanded, polished.

If anyone is afraid to try fixing them...try to fix an extra piece you don't care if you mess up until you get the process right...it's really rewarding seeing the final pieces done...it's very expensive to hire someone to do this kind of work!

Try try again!!!

FIN ME

Posted 2015-08-30 10:45 AM (#488332 - in reply to #472747)
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The stainless drip rail trim that I found for my car arrived crammed full of what remained of a rusted car roof wedged firmly into the back channel of the trim. And to make matters worse, it seemed as though someone had glued the drip rails onto the donor car's roof, many years ago.

After many hours of work, I managed to grind out all of the glue and old rusted metal from the back side of the drip rails so that I could have them installed onto my car. It made me very nervous as one false move could have damaged these unobtainium pieces of trim which I had searched for, for soooooooooo long.

So now I have to say that after all of that work, I am very impressed with anyone who can polish and restore stainless trim, such as guyman. Yikes, what a job.

After clearing out the back channels of the drip rails, I couldn't work up enough nerve to attempt the stainless polishing myself, so I sent all of my car's stainless off to a pro to have it polished (luckily it had no really big dents to remove) and the pro did an amazing job. But guyman is right...cha-CHING!, it's not inexpensive work to have done by a pro.

Best of luck with the stainless - and the work you're performing on your car is GREAT!

guyman

Posted 2015-08-31 9:10 PM (#488479 - in reply to #488332)
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Thought I was done with the stainless for this beast...haha....just found a couple more pieces that I forgot about
that go along the drip rails and the inner window areas...UGGGGG...time to break out the buffer again...LOL

guyman

Posted 2015-10-19 4:07 PM (#492647 - in reply to #472747)
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Got the Desoto outside today to clean out the garage...it's a mess!

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Posted 2015-10-19 9:03 PM (#492698 - in reply to #472747)
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You are doing an awesome job! What are the names of the colors you are using? Where did you get the paints from?

guyman

Posted 2015-10-20 1:12 AM (#492714 - in reply to #472747)
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Actually., I get all my colors from a local paint store. I am using the stock colors that are used in the original color catalogs from back in the day...usually you can buy those off of ebay., or some members up here may have them.

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Posted 2015-11-15 10:18 AM (#495229 - in reply to #472747)
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Looking good, and for taking the ball joints in and out of the control arms, the better way to do them is to take them to a heavy duty shop that has a 3/4" impact gun-buzzes them in and out easy. I built a socket for them.

guyman

Posted 2015-11-24 3:16 AM (#496033 - in reply to #495229)
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I like busting my knuckles and doing things the hard way.

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Posted 2015-11-24 7:05 AM (#496042 - in reply to #472747)
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FINALLY!!! Someone who put some real leaf springs in the rear and got that A$$ end UP!!

NICE JOB!!!

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Posted 2015-11-24 10:34 AM (#496054 - in reply to #495229)
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Resurrector - 2015-11-15 7:18 AM

Looking good, and for taking the ball joints in and out of the control arms, the better way to do them is to take them to a heavy duty shop that has a 3/4" impact gun-buzzes them in and out easy. I built a socket for them.

Taking them out with air power works great, but I wouldn't put them in with air. You risk stripping the tiny threads and ruining the control arm. They strip pretty easily.

The car looks great. I love the color of your '59. I have thought of mounting a winch to my garage too, but I never did. I try to keep my vehicles running while I work on them so that most of the time I don't need it.

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guyman

Posted 2015-11-25 2:11 AM (#496127 - in reply to #496042)
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cbrayinga - 2015-11-24 7:05 AM

FINALLY!!! Someone who put some real leaf springs in the rear and got that A$$ end UP!!

NICE JOB!!! :cool:

I think it's up a bit high...and it's on a slanted driveway..so looks higher...I still need to adjust my torsion bars cause the front end is sitting low and the rear shocks are not mounted on the car yet...so that rear end will sit lower...sorry...LOL

guyman

Posted 2016-01-03 7:52 PM (#499872 - in reply to #496127)
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Too darn cold to work on the Desoto!....come on Spring time!...

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