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58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | As I mentioned previously, my business coupe was already stripped when I got it. BTW, where is the picture of the backseat area that was posted, I couldn't find it? Without even a picture, I don't even know what to restore it to. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I don't have a photo myself! It looks just like a car that's seat was removed in mine. Without the fixed windows I would guess it was a sedan! | ||
58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | My business coupe had no seats or door panels at all! | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | How was the back seat separated from the trunk? Just by that large piece of cardboard that gets attached to the hook-clips, below the parcel shelf (and by the trunk's cross- bracing support, obviously)? | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | Maybe i missed it in the post, but what is the original color? | ||
58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | Not sure which one of us you are asking, my 58 business coupe is all white (original color) with an old repaint. It does not have the cardboard divider between the trunk and back seat, you can see pics. of mine in members rides under my car. | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | I was asking about the OP's car. The pictures look like it is in very faded red paint or maybe it is red oxide primer. I wouldn't associate a business coupe with red, but who knows. I see white inside the left fender headlight bucket though. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | The original color is carnival red the fenders on it came from two different cars at Big M. | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | Carnival red is one of the few shades of red I really like. Do you plan to keep the original color? | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Yes I do! | ||
calvatron |
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Veteran Posts: 207 | NO NO NO. Go Viper Red its only $660.00/ Sprayable Gal. | ||
calvatron |
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Veteran Posts: 207 | Here is a pic of a pretty slick 58 Business Coupe. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Wow that color pops! I love it I think I just did a 180 on the paint! | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | Yeah, not too many bright red 58 Plymouths out there... Please, go with the original color. | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | Please keep it a '57. Single head lights look way better, IMO. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Yes it is definitely staying 57. I mounted the engine just to make sure it all fit ok. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I dropped the engine and tranny in to see how it fit (after torching off some V-8 motor mounts from one of my dad's parts cars) I put it in. Lets just say I need a shoe horn from the shoe salesman who owned the thing! (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (230KB - 351 downloads) image.jpg (228KB - 361 downloads) image.jpg (197KB - 350 downloads) | ||
calvatron |
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Veteran Posts: 207 | Wow!!!! That makes my 318 seem very tiny. | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | Oh no, not another original Non documented Hemi in a Plymouth thread. LOL Looking like it belongs there. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | She is running! I'll see if I can attach the video. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | http://youtu.be/GdK4e2P0e5g I put it on youtube. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Finally got my rockers, doglegs, and the upper quarters for my car! Will be working on that all weekend. Took so long to get here as they sent me 56 pieces the first time around! They are from rocker king I do recommend! Th dog legs are for a four door but I just need to cut out the piece I need. (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (122KB - 360 downloads) image.jpg (119KB - 340 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | The new doglegs and rockers are welded in I think it went okay.. Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-04-20 1:19 PM (new rockers doglegs 1.jpg) (new rocker doglegs 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- new rockers doglegs 1.jpg (56KB - 324 downloads) new rocker doglegs 2.jpg (37KB - 327 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Other side done. I'm thinking of doing a white top on the car. If this was factory would it be above the drip rails only or the post and all also? (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (85KB - 342 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I think the monotone paint only enhances the coolness of the business coupe. I love my monotone Plaza for being so NOT two-toned when 99% of late 50's cars got 2 or more colors. Why be typical ? | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I have time to think about it, but I am not sure about red anymore I really am liking that burgundy and that marine blue! Will be hard to decide! Decisions decisions! (1957-plymouth-pc.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1957-plymouth-pc.jpg (113KB - 346 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Randy, this may already be discussed, but what is your car's PNT and TRM codes? | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I mailed my letter to the Chrysler historical yesterday for decoding on the car. Alls i know is that its a detroit car and monotone carnival red from factory. I will attach photos of the body number and vin tag if that helps? (lucy vin.jpg) (lucy body.jpg) Attachments ---------------- lucy vin.jpg (67KB - 345 downloads) lucy body.jpg (171KB - 351 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Working on the driver side rockers an doglegs again today. Coming out good. Now for the part I hate floorplans! Luckily my father is building a rotisserie one man operate so that may help. (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (147KB - 351 downloads) image.jpg (114KB - 328 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | You can see it was never cut for the rear windows to roll down. Not much to report other than I got new motor mounts and tested the engine again. (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (121KB - 342 downloads) image.jpg (204KB - 344 downloads) image.jpg (105KB - 360 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Randy, these are not great photos, but you may have 4-door rocker panels, there, instead of 2-door rockers. (PICT0134.JPG) (PICT0135.JPG) (PICT0136.JPG) (PICT0137.JPG) Attachments ---------------- PICT0134.JPG (105KB - 342 downloads) PICT0135.JPG (102KB - 341 downloads) PICT0136.JPG (90KB - 330 downloads) PICT0137.JPG (97KB - 341 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I know the doglegs are from a four door. But not sure about the rockers... It would make sense as it does not have the two door seams under the door. It's a bit late now but I can make the seams. Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-04-29 9:48 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The Chrysler Kid - 2014-04-24 8:41 AM I have time to think about it, but I am not sure about red anymore I really am liking that burgundy and that marine blue! Will be hard to decide! Decisions decisions! ===================================================== Why not Carnival red ? Too much like the Christine clones ? If it were mine, I'd go with as crazy of a unique, late 50's color as possible (if bailing on the OEM color), like the coral or the turquoise. For some reason, "cooler" colors seem more appropriate to me for a professional car than warmer ones like red or coral. Not sure why. Regardless, if you run doggies and blackwalls, this thing will look awesome and really stand out as the el Cheapo poster child that it is. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I plan on running dog dishes with body color wheels and bias ply blackwalls. There are a few local Christine clones.. red never really has appealed to me. | ||
58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | My 58 business coupe is an original all white car. It appears someone painted it black at one time and then back to all white. I have the same dilemma, what color to paint it. BTW, after an 8,200 mile trip I finally have my car home. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Not much to report. Removed the rear bumper which came off fairly easy removed the steering column. Waiting on some parts. I think I decided on the color either sky blue or meadow green. Anyone have photos of an original Plaza sedans seats and door panels? I assume the front seat would be the same and I want it to look OEM. Thanks! Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-05-11 2:24 PM (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (167KB - 325 downloads) image.jpg (138KB - 334 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Have you followed along on this thread ? http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=35772&... | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I have! I'm waiting to see what your car looks painted to help me decide! I wish my car was full of diseased fun! I still have the crappy Dodge but alls I found was a rotting tampon box. | ||
laurastifence |
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New User Posts: 1 | Waiting to be got surprised by looking at your car. | ||
1961plymouthfury |
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Expert Posts: 2633 Location: Minor Hill, TN | Looks good Please post more photos. I was also wondering have you thought about getting a 1957 Florida licence plate and having it issued to the car? Edited by 1961plymouthfury 2014-05-12 2:20 AM | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Hello, Laura; very hot in Dubai, today? | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Thanks! I haven't really thought much about the plate as I am quite a ways from that. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | I finally got the engine where it needs to be. I never realized it was off center! As for the wheels. Should they be painted body color or factory would they be simply jet black? Thanks Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-05-13 4:07 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Not sure about 57, but some 58's had body color, while others had the "new thing for 58" Argent silver paint. I like the look of body color, so that is how I went. I will check my photos for 57's. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | A lot of '57s I've seen with the small hub caps have argent wheels. I've also seen examples that are body color, and others that are black - though I suppose most of the 'black' wheels I've seen were cars that lost their full wheel covers. I'm sure an expert will chime in here, but "I think" that the '57 Plymouths built with hub caps had their wheels painted body color at the factory. My wagon had evidence of the original Marina Blue on its wheels. Here are some examples from the 'old pictures' thread. (New York 1960 ply cab.jpg) (postcardIndianapolisMeadows.jpg) (postcardon_fort_erie_jarvis_st_18578.jpg) Attachments ---------------- New York 1960 ply cab.jpg (82KB - 325 downloads) postcardIndianapolisMeadows.jpg (54KB - 335 downloads) postcardon_fort_erie_jarvis_st_18578.jpg (114KB - 322 downloads) | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | And, I believe nearly all V8-powered Mopars had the engine mounted offset around an inch for steering clearance. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Thanks! I have seen them both ways! I will likely paint them body color. But I wanted to know what was correct. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Today I got my floorpans and truck pan. I got them off eBay. They don't fit right and were ridiculously overpriced. It's my own fault for rushing into buying them though. I will make them work though. | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Before and after of the trunk pan. Thanks to the little metal working station. 69 year old shear works good. Body hopefully off this week. (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (146KB - 338 downloads) image.jpg (125KB - 318 downloads) image.jpg (152KB - 322 downloads) | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Looks like you got some heat distortion happen there Try to be patiant when doing the welds (which is hard), just little welds (I do 3/8 at a time) and weld differnt sides, not just one edge. Before returning to where you were, you should be able to place your hand on the area where you welded and leave it there without burning yourself. Its a bit of an art (one I am still trying to master), but its possible to do it without hardly any distortion. A lot of the time is actually due to the metal shrinking when it cools, thets where you have to hammer the welds to stretch the metal back out, which can also be a pain as you need a dolly behind it so you have someting to hit against. It looks like you have to much metal there though, which, if you want to (its in the boot, I wouldnt bother) you could probably shrink it by spot heating and rapid cooling the metal around the creases and a bit of hammer and dolly work. This is more for once you start on the exterior panels, getting warpage out on a big slab quarter panel and not have it "oil canning" is a big pain (I am going to have to do the right rear on my plymouth again because I got to excited and warped it to much) I hope this un asked for advice helps, sorry if you didnt want it | ||
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