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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-24 3:32 PM (#446434 - in reply to #429375)
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And, you thought that Plymouth had the most luxurious Business Coupe, huh?






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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-24 3:36 PM (#446435 - in reply to #429375)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-06-24 3:39 PM (#446437 - in reply to #429375)
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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-24 4:59 PM (#446447 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Wow; got out The Packard Story (haven't looked at it in a while), and learned that the 24th Series car/body was introduced in March
1951.

Nothing was said in it about the availability of a Business Coupe (model 200), but, an intraweb search for 1951 Packard Business Coupe
produces a lot of information/photos, including this one:



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-06-25 6:44 PM (#446653 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Little things done tonight. The new seat supports are in. Welded up a hole in the trunk. We also made the seam, where the trunk metal was replaced.



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Posted 2014-06-25 8:35 PM (#446672 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Location: Perth Australia		Randy, what are you welding with?

It looks like gasless mig?

If your welder can take it, see if you can get a bottle of gas and a regulator and have a try with gas.

I started off using gasless wire, but after trying gas, its like chalk and cheese, much nicer and easier

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direstr8
Posted 2014-06-27 5:11 PM (#446916 - in reply to #429375)
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Congrats on your Dream car. I know the feeling well of what it takes to make an old car new again. My car (like yours) was a dream project that has taken years to complete. Hopefully, I can get the car finished in time for the 4th of July. I let my car sit for close to 8yrs while I was playing overseas and after a hard year of work the car is almost back in driving shape. Right now, I am on the hunt to find a power steering gearbox for my 58 Plymouth so if you run into anyone who has one give me a shout on email. Have fun and hope to see some photos of the car when its fully restored. Greg



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-06-27 5:51 PM (#446923 - in reply to #446916)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Ttotired: Yes. I'll give it a try thanks for the tip.



Derest: That's a nice Plaza and thanks! Have you done a thread yet would love to see more pics! What do you call that color?

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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-27 9:39 PM (#446964 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Mathew Keij is visiting, and while perusing 40 Years of Stock Car Racing (Vol1), noticed this car,
driven by Johhny Allen, and owned by Spook Crawford.

And, ever seen TWO Business Coupes, at Work...business was OK.

In the second photo (at 1957 Daytona Beach race) car #90 was driven by Don Oldenberg (owned
by Osiecki racing)...

#505, driven by Charlie Cregar, was owned by himself.

At Daytona 57, Cregar finished 10th, Oldenberg finished 14th, and Allen ended up 17th....out of
57 starters.

There were NINE 1957 Plymouths, at work, at Daytona that day (2/17/57).

Worst result was #54, driven by Al Tasnady, who crashed-out at/on some unconfirmed-lap, but
ended-up 52nd overall.






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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-06-28 2:54 PM (#447018 - in reply to #446964)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Wow! Thanks for those pics that is very cool! I love having photos of them! I wish they were still here!
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-22 6:29 PM (#450085 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		My rust free quarters arrived today. One passenger and one drivers side. If anyone is interested I will be selling the rust free drivers side which is the last two pics. I need to get some photos as the front floorpans are now in.



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-22 7:40 PM (#450097 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Even though it's a Ford! I have never seen a business coupe this late. So here's another late biz coupe.

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Posted 2014-07-23 10:22 AM (#450180 - in reply to #429375)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-23 7:30 PM (#450249 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Looks like it's going to be a good fit.



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-27 12:39 PM (#450608 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		More metal work. I also went to take some photos of my friends Savoy so I can see how the complete panels look when they are correct.



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-27 12:41 PM (#450609 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Anyone know if these mats are original? They came with the car.



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oldwood
Posted 2014-07-27 12:49 PM (#450610 - in reply to #450609)
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Location: little rock, AR		Here is a mat that I just pulled out of my '59 Dodge. I don't know how old it is. I'm not sure of yours.



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big m
Posted 2014-07-27 1:15 PM (#450612 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Location: Williams California		Randy,
The mat you have is vinyl, the originals were rubber with Forward Look logos.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-07-27 2:09 PM (#450616 - in reply to #450612)
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Location: little rock, AR		Big M probably has a closet full of the originals. LOL So my "Mopar Mat" is not original but it looks old,sorta like me!!!
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-27 2:24 PM (#450619 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		I like it. It's very neat with its starbursts. Wonder where it can from. Here is my "rust free" quarter I got. From nothing there to complete.



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Posted 2014-07-27 2:34 PM (#450620 - in reply to #450619)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-28 7:31 PM (#450798 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		All new metal. Coming a long great. I am pretty sure it's getting painted silver charcoal. I think the quarter came out great. Almost ready to work on the floors.



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Posted 2014-07-31 1:09 AM (#451065 - in reply to #429375)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-31 3:20 PM (#451135 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		No, I am definitely going to use it. I like it too much!
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-07-31 7:15 PM (#451160 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Alls that's left now are the floorpans!



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d500neil
Posted 2014-07-31 9:47 PM (#451182 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Location: bishop, ca		Randy, here's a 1950(?) Plymouth Business Coupe that was 4-sale at Hot August nites...

Notice its full complement of gauges, and wood-grained dashboard!!

Dunno if its interior is OEM, though; probably fabric, like the door panels.







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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-08-01 12:20 PM (#451252 - in reply to #451182)
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d500neil - 2014-07-31 9:47 PM

Randy, here's a 1950(?) Plymouth Business Coupe that was 4-sale at Hot August nites...

Notice its full complement of gauges, and wood-grained dashboard!!

Dunno if its interior is OEM, though; probably fabric, like the door panels.







Gorgeous. I got another vivid description of a late model business coupe. A guy who had a 59 Plymouth in the late 60s as his work car described an upholstered cardboard piece that matched the interior, covering the hole into the trunk, with a low metal shelf screwed to the floor. Again, no one has any photos.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-01 6:59 PM (#451317 - in reply to #429375)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth Plaza business coupe



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Location: bishop, ca		That sounds like a version of the wimpy station wagon rear wheelhouse cover panels, or the ditto tail gate "Masonite"
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-08-09 4:03 PM (#452247 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		No longer have a passenger side floor vent. I also found a book of matches in the door. Odd place.



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-08-23 4:32 PM (#454011 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Metal work is practically done! She goes to the body shop for prep and paint the first week of September!



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-10-13 9:07 AM (#459016 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		The question of what the rear seat should look like has been answered! This all original Plymouth Business coupe shows the original rear seat area. I'm going to post some update photos tomorrow. Just neat to see this car has surfaced.

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Posted 2014-10-13 11:46 AM (#459030 - in reply to #429375)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-10-13 6:20 PM (#459082 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		The new trunk gutter.



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Posted 2014-10-13 11:38 PM (#459146 - in reply to #459016)
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The Chrysler Kid - 2014-10-13 9:07 AM

The question of what the rear seat should look like has been answered! This all original Plymouth Business coupe shows the original rear seat area. I'm going to post some update photos tomorrow. Just neat to see this car has surfaced.
Nice metal work, any more information on the business coupe that surfaced ?
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Posted 2014-10-17 6:46 AM (#459501 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Georgia		Randy, I don't mean to infect your thread with other makes, but Neil already did with that Packard.

There is a 1959 Chebby Biscayne business coupe on eBay right now, with some very good photos of the rear-seat 'delete'.
Apparently, Chebby used some sort of shelf with a rubber mat, as seen in the last photo.
It's a very cool car, if you're into the Chebby scene!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Other-2-door-Utility-sedan-1959-c...

Pete



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Posted 2014-10-17 4:18 PM (#459546 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		I appreciate you posting it, as I don't look at Chevys in my searches. I'm looking for ideas like this for the rear seat area. As soon as I can get photos onto an actual computer I will post paint updates!
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Posted 2014-10-23 6:46 PM (#460052 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		So. I was digging around and found this back panel. Didn't know we had it! Along with the original door panels!



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Posted 2014-10-23 11:22 PM (#460075 - in reply to #446435)
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... like bare door panels and a fiberboard back piece. What stood out was that raised shelf that brought the
floor up above the driveline hump to create a large, flat area for storage/hauling.

The Plymouth photo without this bottom look reworked. Those buttons don't look factory to my eyes.
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-11-04 8:15 PM (#461037 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Now the fun starts! One gas stop on the way to paint and it already got called a '57 Chevy!



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d500neil
Posted 2014-11-04 8:42 PM (#461038 - in reply to #461037)
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Location: bishop, ca		LOL; they screwed up the "OK Paint" stamping!

('Unfortunately', that 57 Business Coupe has aftermarket---apparently---upholstery installed in it. Is the rear
seat area OEM, or is it re-upholstered, too?)




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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-11-04 8:49 PM (#461039 - in reply to #461038)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		That's Chyslers in '57 for you. I flipped the photo it is upside down. The interior is completely new incorrect fabric. Not sure if we will re-do it or not.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-11-04 8:56 PM (#461040 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: bishop, ca		Those fasteners look like pop-rivets, which were not available, or not used, in 1957?


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Posted 2014-11-04 9:07 PM (#461041 - in reply to #461040)
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Posted 2014-12-03 5:38 PM (#463502 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		So the carbs and manifold came. Just waiting on the air cleaners! I think this will make a lovely table centerpiece until it comes time for the engine work?



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Posted 2014-12-03 8:53 PM (#463520 - in reply to #429375)
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Posted 2014-12-03 9:25 PM (#463526 - in reply to #463520)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-12-21 12:28 PM (#465424 - in reply to #429375)
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2015-01-12 9:28 PM (#467413 - in reply to #429375)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		New leaf springs! We came in with two sets and they made one good one. Tampa springs, highly recommend them. Also a teaser pic of the body.



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Posted 2015-01-12 9:32 PM (#467416 - in reply to #467413)
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Location: Ocala, Florida		Also everything is at the upholstery shop. We are doing black and white interior. The top white 'bar' that is on the door panels will carry all the way around.
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Posted 2015-01-12 9:37 PM (#467422 - in reply to #429375)
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