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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-09 9:33 PM (#474900 - in reply to #474898)
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-09 9:46 PM (#474902 - in reply to #474900)
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I can't find any of my pics showing the finish welding, metal finish, light sand blasting or levelling and priming.

Anyway, the best way I know to see if the panels are level is to paint it gloss black and check it in the sunlight.

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-09 9:59 PM (#474905 - in reply to #474900)
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-09 10:59 PM (#474911 - in reply to #474905)
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That is REAL silver cadmium plating!! IIRC, maybe early 90s, and it cost $45.00 a barrel of small parts. Up to 50lbs or so. The last time I was at that platers he told me that his cadmium and chrome plating tanks and solutions no longer met impending EPA standards and he wouldn't be doing them any more. His business would change to zinc, copper and nickel plating as well as electrolytic deplating and anodizing.

Can't say I'm sorry! Those heavy metals are biochemical non-competitive blocking agents. Once released they do their job forever! The contents of those tanks, once spent, were dumped into the storm sewers and into the nearest water shed! The double whammy problem, of course, was that all commercial chrome and cadmium platers used arsenic baths!!

But, cad. plated parts were very durable and sure looked good. Just don't put 'em in your mouth!!!

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Posted 2015-04-09 11:55 PM (#474922 - in reply to #474911)
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The stuff to the left of the u-bolts are my old, vintage firehose recreations of the the rubber impregnated canvas isolators used on all 57-59 Mopars that insulated the rear springs from the axle both top and bottom. They were used
between the tubular axle spring seats and the spring as well as between the tubular axle and the 5 hole plates.

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Posted 2015-04-10 6:02 AM (#474936 - in reply to #398789)
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Awesome Greg!!!
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Posted 2015-04-10 11:00 AM (#474973 - in reply to #474936)
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In the picture above, where it says 'tape', you can see the curved 'finger' that must be correctly aligned in order for the power brake booster to engage properly. If the pedal is allowed to fully release, such as in the picture, there is a chance that the finger will go out of alignment and the booster will not activate. I have tied down the pedals on my spare pedal assemblies so that this won't happen.

In the 58 Plymouth shop manual, there is an illustration of a gauge that can be made to ensure proper alignment.

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d500neil
Posted 2015-04-11 12:59 AM (#475054 - in reply to #398789)
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So, my car's braking system works fine, except that the power brake pedal NOISILY 'thunks' forward, to its
full-resting position, when the pedal is released.

The rest of the car's systems work fine; I'm wondering, now, if I can visualize the "two plastic bushings".

Where would the bushings be found?

In the interior footwell area, on the firewall, or, on the other side, of the firewall (probably?)


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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-11 1:59 PM (#475080 - in reply to #398789)
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The 58 CDN Dodge Custom Poyal engine I installed in that car. 354 poly.

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Posted 2015-04-11 2:07 PM (#475082 - in reply to #398789)
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More assembly pics.

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-11 2:15 PM (#475087 - in reply to #398789)
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Restoration finished in the spring of 2002. Just awaiting the insurance appraiser.

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-11 2:21 PM (#475088 - in reply to #398789)
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This pic taken on its maiden voyage to the 300 club meet in Rhode Island, spring 2002.

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Posted 2015-04-11 2:56 PM (#475089 - in reply to #398789)
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holy crap whats the restoration cost...
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-11 7:55 PM (#475119 - in reply to #475089)
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Good question. Depends on how I value my time! Except for the plating, the seats and the paint, I did the whole thing myself after hours and over a number of years.

Greg
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ttotired
Posted 2015-04-11 8:14 PM (#475123 - in reply to #398789)
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I get asked the same question, but you cant value it unless your building it for a customer 9or to sell), where you clock time and track parts

People that are building up a car for the enjoyment of doing it tend not to do either and, most of the time, would prefer not to know, even if someone else (normally the wife ) does track it

No fun spending 50 or 60k in parts and time on a car worth 20k if your planning on selling it

The gap might not be as big on the high end cars, but stuff you might leave on a lower car, you would have to do on a high end car and that would drive the restoration price higher

Anyway, love this car, the colour combination and general look is brilliant

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-11 8:31 PM (#475127 - in reply to #475123)
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Thanks, Mick. I think I would be too embarrassed to even admit how many hours I had in that project!!

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-11 8:44 PM (#475130 - in reply to #475127)
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When I was first disassembling the car and had taken the seats out, I was on my knees on what was left of the carpet trying to remove the instrument panel. A fun job by yourself at the best of time! All of a sudden I had an awful sharp pain in my right knee. When I got out I found a CONCRETE nail driven under the kneecap! I got immediate medical treatment.


Check out this bulletin:

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Posted 2015-04-11 10:34 PM (#475141 - in reply to #398789)
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How about a New topic! I had learned that this car could possibly be bought. I took some pics and rubbings of the VIN and body plate and sent them to Gil Cunningham and I ordered Wayne Graefens handbook.

Everything seemed to check out so I bought the car. Here are the initial pics.

Greg



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Posted 2015-04-11 10:51 PM (#475142 - in reply to #398789)
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You'll notice that it is the last car in the driveway. No way I'm gonna buy a 300 C without driving it!

After a hairy trip at 75 + mph on a gravel road on junk tires and no brakes ----- let's do this deal!

Anybody want me to continue with these resto pics?!

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-11 11:12 PM (#475146 - in reply to #398789)
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Of coarse Greg

The resto threads and for sale threads are the main reason I am here (and if I can help along the way or learn something, all the better)

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Posted 2015-04-12 3:21 AM (#475163 - in reply to #398789)
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I will never put a fowardlook on the road until I know its safe to drive. My dad is the same way
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Posted 2015-04-12 10:21 AM (#475179 - in reply to #475141)
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Enjoy the process on the 'new' 300C, Greg.   I've just put another back on the road that was in a Texas shed since 1977.   Runs/ drives/ safe but no cosmetics!   Your restoration and documentation work is the gold standard.   Wayne





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Posted 2015-04-12 11:11 AM (#475196 - in reply to #475142)
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Anybody want me to continue with these resto pics?!

Greg


Absolutely! Please continue. This thread is great fun and valuable information.
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Posted 2015-04-12 1:53 PM (#475215 - in reply to #398789)
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The Dodge is a true work of art Greg - thaks' for sharing all those Pictures - a virtual gold mine for renovators!
A Dodge with AutoPilot and Power brakes must have been very ráre. As I understand, the AutoPilots came as dealer mounted on Dodges?!
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-12 4:46 PM (#475235 - in reply to #475179)
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Thanks, Wayne. Your handbook provided the "road map", I just followed the trail!

Well done getting another C on the road.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-12 4:52 PM (#475237 - in reply to #475196)
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Thanks, Mike. I had a lot of fun doing these cars.

Thanks, Wizard. I also think auto pilot was a dealer add on. Must have been quite expensive. It needs a special steering column jacket. I found it on a junkyard car and didn't know what it was at first. The underhood stuff was missing. I got the missing bits from a Chrysler.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-12 4:54 PM (#475238 - in reply to #398789)
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This car was very complete!

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d500neil
Posted 2015-04-12 5:33 PM (#475241 - in reply to #475238)
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Some (many) years-ago, Wayne called-me-out/took-issue-with my contention that Horrie's
vinyl fuel filler cover(ing) was OEM to the car.

Wayne asked; "Where's the Part Number on it"?

I couldn't find one or a reference to that cover(ing) in the Good Book.

Subsequently, found what appears to be an identical cover(ing) on a 1958 CRL D500, that was featured in a Speed Age
road test, and have seen other contemporary photos of cars with identical-appearing cover(ings) on their
fuel filler tubes.

The cover(ings)' IDENTICAL appearance and their existence can not be mere coincidences.

But, I know nothing about how they happened to be installed on various 1957-1958(+?) Dodges...






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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-04-12 6:27 PM (#475249 - in reply to #475241)
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Neil. I found three of them. A green one in my 57 vert. I made patterns for them. The weird part is that they were all made from 2 pieces of vinyl with no apparent reason to do this. Compare the sewn seam in your pic to mine. Both the same (about 6-8" from the floor)! They came from a single source.

No part number that I found.

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Posted 2015-04-12 6:33 PM (#475250 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-12 9:33 PM (#475278 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-12 9:35 PM (#475279 - in reply to #398789)
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Hi Greg,

on the Regal Lancer do you have a picture of the firewall, where the heater blower fits, on Joe`s and mine there is a rectangle not painted as if there was a masked sheet on there or something?

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Posted 2015-04-12 9:51 PM (#475283 - in reply to #475279)
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springsweptwing - 2015-04-12 9:35 PM

Hi Greg,

on the Regal Lancer do you have a picture of the firewall, where the heater blower fits, on Joe`s and mine there is a rectangle not painted as if there was a masked sheet on there or something?

Paul.


I see that. It looks about the size of a broadcast sheet? They are 8 1/2" X 5 1/2". I don't remember seeing it on mine.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-12 9:58 PM (#475284 - in reply to #475283)
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No, not on mine, Paul.



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Posted 2015-04-13 7:28 PM (#475371 - in reply to #398789)
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I was surprised to see areas of unpainted, bare steel. I checked under sheet metal fasteners--- you will see the results. It appears that the body was painted with all major sheet metal parts installed!

I doubt that I or other restorers would do it this way!!!

Greg



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Posted 2015-04-13 7:45 PM (#475375 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-14 8:01 PM (#475494 - in reply to #398789)
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Guys, this will be last of the "boring (at least for some) pics. Good stuff will follow!

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Posted 2015-04-14 8:27 PM (#475496 - in reply to #398789)
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d500neil
Posted 2015-04-15 12:41 AM (#475516 - in reply to #475496)
Subject: Re: Greg Leggatt's Forward Look Art Gallery Thread



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DAYUMM, you're way ahead of my reading, Greg!

But, (at least:) one correction, from way-above here:

The Dodge D501 torsion bars were NOT OEM to the Furys...but could have been purchased as Optional
Equipment to them.

The OEM-standard Fury T/bars are 952/953 (which are also the standard bars on the (non-sway-bar-available) 57
Coronet & Royal models.

The optional (Heavy Duty/Taxi) 57 Coro/Royal bars are the 956/957 bars, which were installed as 'standard' equipment on
the 57 D501 RACE CARS (--which ALL D501's were built-as--regardless of their other optional items on them---)

The 956/957 T/bars were optional equipment on the Furys and Coro/Royals).





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Posted 2015-04-15 12:45 AM (#475517 - in reply to #398789)
Subject: Re: Greg Leggatt's Forward Look Art Gallery Thread



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Greg, can you send me an image of your GREEN gas filler covering?

On another thread (IIRC), I sent you a poor image of a GOLD colored vinyl gas filler pipe covering.

So, we now know of : Black, Gold, and Green gas filler pipe coverings!!

All we need to find, now, is a BLUE covering.


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Posted 2015-04-15 7:02 PM (#475588 - in reply to #475517)
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d500neil - 2015-04-15 12:45 AM

Greg, can you send me an image of your GREEN gas filler covering?





I don't have any pics of it and, unfortunately, all my patterns and samples for carpet, and anything "upholstery" went to the dump years ago! I had no idea anyone would be interested in it. Besides, I had the space rented to the chap who bought my trailer manufacturing business.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-15 7:26 PM (#475598 - in reply to #475588)
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Oops, found one I made for my Coronet. Same colour as the one I found. The Coronet and vert were the same colour.

Greg



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Posted 2015-04-15 7:31 PM (#475600 - in reply to #475588)
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...and that's why things become "collectable".

But, I will, still, quote you, in Re: the existence of green-colored-vinyl, fuel filler covering.



THAT...is the 'green' color, for the filler tube????

The Continental kit looks to be more-green than that vinyl, but you're saying that that vinyl
is a 'perfect' match to the former filler tube????

(BTW, years ago, tried to buy that "tan" trunk cardboard from G. Goers, but got, instead, the cardboard in
GRAY.....altho my car was built with the slightly-different-style "tan" hardboard trunk liner panels.

Definitely prefer the 'tan' motif/style, to the gray-style, but, the latter's construction design IS
better than the former's---it's easier to install, without having to tear-up the hardboard, in
installing it, behind/around the fuel filler pipe.

And, no: I don't want to mess with trying to move the fuel filler pipe, merely to install
the hardboard trunk panels.










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Posted 2015-04-15 8:21 PM (#475607 - in reply to #475600)
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Not perfect but close. The same as the seat vinyl (NOS) that I got for the vert from SMS.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-15 11:51 PM (#475623 - in reply to #398789)
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Here are a couple photos that I found in an album. This is one of the cars that started this thread. It is Hersey 1995 and the chap looking at my car is John Whitaker. Some of you will remember him. A devoted '58 Dodge guy that promoted our FL cars at every opportunity, you know, back in the days when our cars were hated by a lot of people!!

This was a typical car show class. A Chev on one side of me and a T-Bird on the other side! I'll tell you what! I was as proud as hell when I won that class!!
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Posted 2015-04-16 2:04 AM (#475633 - in reply to #475623)
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Yeah, well, you abundantly deserved that win; i remember those days.

John was quite a guy; RIP.

Your original 'caption', to this photo was: "John Whittaker, looking for faults (there were none) on my car."

What ultimately became of this car?


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Posted 2015-04-16 9:17 PM (#475723 - in reply to #475633)
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d500neil - 2015-04-16 2:04 AM


What ultimately became of this car?




The last I heard was what someone mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

Greg
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Posted 2015-04-16 9:21 PM (#475724 - in reply to #475723)
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Back to the C. As I hinted at earlier, we painted the fenders, inner fenders and hood etc. all separately and the body was mounted high on the paint frame for initial paint.

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Posted 2015-04-16 9:36 PM (#475725 - in reply to #398789)
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The body was lowered down on the 6" posts, the front end sheet metal was all fit and installed and all was prepped for final paint.

My particular car had everything painted over, even the rubber air and splash shields. The trunk latch and striker plate as well as the rubber trunk lid stops were painted over.

Greg.



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Posted 2015-04-16 9:53 PM (#475728 - in reply to #398789)
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