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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-02 3:15 AM (#443455 - in reply to #398789)
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Don't forget to make provisions for water intrusions to be able to escape from the body cavities....unlike the factory designers.

What were they (not-) thinking, when they designed the bodies?



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Posted 2014-06-02 9:19 AM (#443480 - in reply to #398789)
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That's an amazing body rebuild... not only the Swedes are great at this level of work! Given the extent of this restoration, only thing I might have done different is hold out for a better trunk floor that didn't need fiberglassing. What a car!
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Posted 2014-06-02 9:33 AM (#443483 - in reply to #443455)
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Thank you Greg and Neil for all of this fantastic information. The photos are incredibly helpful. I really appreciate all the time you've put into this. It will absolutely help other people with their restorations.
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Posted 2014-06-02 7:02 PM (#443523 - in reply to #443480)
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Thanks Roger. I tried to find a better trunk floor but the searching was done before we had the internet resources of today.

Thanks Danny. I'm pleased to hear it helps.
Greg
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:37 PM (#445258 - in reply to #443523)
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Here are the 40 amp generator photos I have been promising------I hope!!
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:41 PM (#445260 - in reply to #445258)
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:45 PM (#445261 - in reply to #445260)
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:48 PM (#445265 - in reply to #445261)
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I still can't make it work!
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:53 PM (#445268 - in reply to #445265)
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Try again.
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:00 PM (#445269 - in reply to #445268)
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You can do it Greg! I got faith in ya!
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:05 PM (#445271 - in reply to #445268)
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H u u g h h h----- better quit before I get too mad!
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:06 PM (#445273 - in reply to #445271)
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Notes didn't help? We had it going there.
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:16 PM (#445275 - in reply to #445273)
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Oh, Hi, Matt,
Yeah, thought I followed 'em. Just don't seem to have the same meaning as they did yesterday! You were very patient. Thanks. I'll mess about with it later.
Greg
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:39 PM (#445526 - in reply to #398789)
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40 amp generator photos , again, I hope!
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:49 PM (#445528 - in reply to #398789)
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I wonder what happened to the rest of the photos?! Maybe try submitting again and again?
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:52 PM (#445529 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:53 PM (#445530 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:58 PM (#445531 - in reply to #398789)
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Here it is installed on my Regal Lancer.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:32 PM (#445534 - in reply to #398789)
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The car with the steering column and gear itself removed. This may be of interest to 1960 and later car owners. Steering gears on 57-59 cars are generally removed from inside the car by lifting the access plate under the front carpet. The car is jacked up at the front only to remove the pitman arm or, in my case, revolve it to clear exhaust pipe and torsion bar so it can be lifted into the car.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:47 PM (#445536 - in reply to #398789)
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Steering gear off to Lares for rebuild. The car as is today. Some neat shots of a Regal interior.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:52 PM (#445537 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:54 PM (#445538 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-18 1:12 AM (#445545 - in reply to #398789)
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Anyone notice that my NEW, supposedly correct w/s doesn't have the proper "bubble". Hey, the wipers clear it and it doesn't leak. Gotta give thanks for the good stuff, I guess!! NEW means 2001. Here's the story!

I ordered the w/s from LOF glass search and it was delivered to my friend in NY. I went to pick it up on 9-11-01. I had just crossed the border into NY when the radio news went into shock. I tuned to a Syracuse station and don't remember how/when I even got to his place. Myself and everyone else was just numb!!!

I don't give a s**t how it looks. This is a part of the history of the car.!! Time can't erase this!
Greg
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-06-19 2:45 PM (#445748 - in reply to #445545)
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Hi, Greg -

My convertible windshield is exactly the same! Also supposedly a correct W23(?) bubble. I guess they just don't make bubbles like they used to!
What a story about the pick up. A day none of us will forget.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-19 4:02 PM (#445767 - in reply to #445748)
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What does that LOF 'bubble' W/S cost?

That carpeting looks very much like the OEM style: sheared cut pile (in a flat roll).

Greg: all that work, and your car has BLACK wheels?????


BTW (as you may recall), there was supposed to have been only two color-versions for the Regal: gold-with black
(like yours) and gold-with-white.

The other two versions were 'late' pre-production decisions.









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Posted 2014-06-22 3:50 PM (#446108 - in reply to #445767)
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What does that LOF 'bubble' W/S cost?

That carpeting looks very much like the OEM style: sheared cut pile (in a flat roll).

Greg: all that work, and your car has BLACK wheels?????


BTW (as you may recall), there was supposed to have been only two color-versions for the Regal: gold-with black
(like yours) and gold-with-white.

The other two versions were 'late' pre-production decisions.


Neil, I don't remember what the w/s cost. Too long ago. It certainly wasn't cheap!!

I bought the carpet from the 300 club. Supposedly luxurious enough for an F. So-------- I used it!

The wheels are new aftermarket. They came black and look good on a black/copper car.

I didn't know the timing for the other two tones.
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:00 AM (#448417 - in reply to #446108)
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My steering gear is back from Lares. Looks good but time will tell. As I mentioned earlier, I had a young mechanic to help me remove the gear and I also had a list of other little ailments that needed attention. It has been close to 15 years since I did the restoration on that car!!

Anyway, the speedo had been making noises and the needle (drum) was erratic, so, we pulled the speedo cables. YES, cables. The car has autopilot. The cables were salvaged from junkyard cars and, after all, had lasted for 15 years!!

For some reason I googled;"how to purchase a speedo cable". Led me to Speedometer Service Co in Minn. spoke to Roger and he knew exactly what I needed. I couldn't believe it!! For a little more than $100.00 he made both of them and vinyl covered them. They came today and look great!

It will be a couple weeks or so before we get a chance to get it all back together.
Greg
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:08 AM (#448420 - in reply to #448417)
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Hey, Greg....you sent them your own gear, but, did Lares do anything to polish its case?

YEARS ago, I had Moores wrecking yard (in SD) drop ship a (nasty-) P/S gearbox to Lares.

Never saw it, before receiving it from Lares, but Lares had merely flat-black painted the case.

After removing that 'paint', discovered that the horrible case-condition had merely been covered up, by Lares.

Got it all wire-wheeled polished-out, and then clear-coated the 'crap' outta it, to preserve its Holiness...

As posted elsewhere, with the STANDARD (whatever that means) Lares adjustment, I am completely satisfied with Lares' overhaul
work (but not with their external cover-up of its case's condition.



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-07-09 1:31 AM (#448424 - in reply to #448420)
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They got it correct now, Neil. Probably because you said something!! The 58, of course, is cast steel and they, in fact, asked me if I wanted it left natural (for me to finish) or, to do it their way. I chose the latter and I will post pics of the finished product before I install it. At this point, I'm happy.
Greg
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:47 AM (#448427 - in reply to #448424)
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With respect to "adjustment". They also asked if I wanted it firmer. I said No. It was another bunch of money and, to be perfectly honest, I don't like 58 and later PS "feel"in ANY dimension! I much prefer the 57 co-axial PS feel. But, each to his own!! No way I was going to pay more for something I really didn't want in the first place!! But, again, time will tell when it is installed.
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Posted 2014-08-12 12:12 AM (#452550 - in reply to #448427)
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Well, I/we finally got the Regal back together. The Lares PS gear rebuild is, in fact, GREAT. They DID make it firmer even though they said it would be at extra cost. I like it!! I really didn't think I would!

The speedo is nice and smooth and quiet with the new cables. We fixed a few other nuisance things as well.

About three years ago (this car gets very few miles on it each year) I went to put it into service and the brakes were a mess. Simple adjustment wouldn't fix 'em so I pulled the system all apart. Everything was rusty junk. MC and all wheel cylinders. Needless to say this was not the first time after the complete restoration some years ago. I ordered everything new from Andy Burnbaum, AGAIN, but this time I used DOT 5.

Right now I have a very low but very effective brake pedal. I also have no brake lights and, guess what, I am getting fluid leaking at the hydraulic switch. All is not so easy. The car has auto pilot which has two "automatic" disconnect switches. One is easy. It is a mechanical switch bolted to the brake pedal linkage. The other is a hydraulic pressure switch installed at the MC by means of a tee threaded into the MC. This tee has the hydraulic auto pilot disconnect switch screwed into one end and the hydraulic stop light connect switch screwed into the other end. I would have to assume that both of these switches are ruined by the silicone fluid.

After a few miles of aggressive speeds and braking the car stops evenly-- good news. Low pedal---maybe just shoe/drum adjustment. We'll find out in a couple weeks. To convert the stop light switch to a mechanical one is very simple. To somehow invent a second (back up) disconnect switch for the the auto pilot is definately not so simple.

Anyone have ideas? Do later than 58 auto pilots use two auto disconnect switches?

The best news is that I have had a chance to drive a REAL land yacht around for a few miles---- with more to come!!

Greg



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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-12 1:05 AM (#452563 - in reply to #452550)
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That 'firmness' you feel is their standard-adjustment; you just forgot, or never knew, what real power steering control feels like.

It's wonderful..but to enjoy it, fully, the entire front suspension needs to be renovated and a proper alignment be dialed-in, with
positive caster, and oh yeah; new tires, too.

It all works together, and when it works together, it's Beethoven's 5th....(or at least, Knob Creek's)...at work.



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Posted 2014-08-12 1:30 AM (#452566 - in reply to #452563)
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Always nice to hear from confrontational Neil! So, tell me me, when was the last time you had to spend a few hours driving a 58 or later PS car??
Greg
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-12 4:22 PM (#452658 - in reply to #398789)
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A few hours driving a 58+?

Ah, never, unfortunately.

Do you have a receipt, etc., from Lares confirming that they installed more-than-standard steering box adjustment?

Is your "hydraulic switch" leaking at/on the master cylinder?

If so, teflon tape will solve that problem.

As reported elsewhere, by others and mesef, a properly dialed in steering system should have virtually no dead/free-play
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Posted 2014-08-14 12:13 AM (#452849 - in reply to #452658)
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I only have long time experience with 57 and 58 Mopars. My opinion is that with 58, constant control PS, I have NO road "feel" at all, whereas for 57 co-axial PS there is at least some "road" feel. Others may disagree but I, for this reason, prefer the 57 as I stated earlier.

Again, my experience is that either 57 or 58 systems require very little effort to turn the wheel. The rebuild I just got requires somewhat more effort. I didn't pay any more for this "firmer" feel and therefore have no reason to believe that this is not Lares standard. The note from them was something to the effect that everything had been calibrated and adjusted properly and should require no more adjustment. Anything to the contrary, contact them first!

It is Bang On!! No "dead spot", no adjustment required, take your hands off the wheel while forcefully braking or accelerating----- perfect!!! Thank you to ALL who recommended I use Lares. I am very happy with it.

Neil, I don't know where the leak is. All those fittings were installed with Teflon tape and haven't leaked in several years. All I care about is that the brake lights no longer function. A little leaking Dot 5 doesn't hurt anything!! I am much more concerned that the silicone has also destroyed the auto pilot hydraulic disconnect switch as well.

I have lots of spare stop light switches. They are simple "normally open" switches. The auto pilot ones are a whole different item. They are "normally closed" switches!!! Nobody has those!

This OEM master cylinder arrangement of switches may be of interest to others. Hard to get a photo of it but I will try.

Greg
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-14 2:07 AM (#452863 - in reply to #398789)
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I tell ya, Jim Hoek and Matt Keij have both driven H. at some speed, and they could tell you about the GREAT amount of road feel that
a "1957" Lares system can provide (along with all of the other necessary adjustments and refinements that go into a proper handling car).

Maybe a considerable amount of that road feel/response comes from the van-rated Diamondback tires which are inflated to over 40 psi.

MAN, I wish that I could score another set of them!

They are not, supposedly, still being imported to this country.





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Posted 2014-08-14 4:26 PM (#452923 - in reply to #452863)
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Hydraulic switches.
Brass tee threads into the end of mc. Auto pilot cancel switch threads into the top of the tee and the stop light switch into the bottom.



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Posted 2014-08-14 4:37 PM (#452925 - in reply to #452923)
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Looks like the leak may be occurring at the upper switch (and/or at the T's connection to the M/C).

Ah, the joys of manual steering and brakes & trannie (I understand...).


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Posted 2014-08-16 8:16 PM (#453215 - in reply to #452925)
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These are my convertible folding top reference photos for dodge/ Plymouth 57to59. They may help someone.



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Posted 2014-08-21 9:32 PM (#453853 - in reply to #398789)
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I frequently get asked about the electric window harness routing for 57/58. I took these of the Regal.
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Posted 2014-11-06 10:25 PM (#461222 - in reply to #398789)
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While looking for pics for the " Usual Suspects" I came across these. My shop in the good old days!

My 57 Coro in the foreground, then my 58 4 dr and my 67 GTX convert project in the rear.
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Posted 2014-11-06 10:29 PM (#461223 - in reply to #398789)
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My 4 dr in the foreground.



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Posted 2014-11-06 10:31 PM (#461225 - in reply to #398789)
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Three Dodge frames with convert in front.



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Posted 2014-11-06 10:36 PM (#461226 - in reply to #398789)
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My truck and trailer loaded up somewhere in FL likely in the early 80s.



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Posted 2014-11-07 10:24 AM (#461244 - in reply to #461226)
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Good stuff, Greg! The good old days: they were inexpensive and plentiful!
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Posted 2014-11-07 2:17 PM (#461264 - in reply to #461244)
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Lancer Mike - 2014-11-07 10:24 AM

The good old days: they were inexpensive and plentiful!


Very true, Mike. The assignment was as simple as don't come home without two unwanted 57/58 Mopars!!

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Posted 2014-11-07 4:08 PM (#461268 - in reply to #398789)
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The days of buying $50-$200 decent cars is long gone, in the early '80's sometimes folks would tell you "Just get that thing outta here!"

Thanks for keeping this thread going, it's invaluable to me when trying to reassemble my project.

---John
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Posted 2014-11-07 9:32 PM (#461292 - in reply to #461268)
Subject: Re: Greg Leggatt's Forward Look Art Gallery Thread


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John, after following your thread I can't think of how I could help much, but, thanks anyway!!
Greg
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Posted 2015-04-09 9:12 PM (#474897 - in reply to #461292)
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I have more pics of my Regal Lancer restoration.

Even though there was a lot of finish welding to do I knew I had a serious problem that I had to fix. In spite of pulling outward on the quarter panel as I was doing the intermittent plug welding, a large area " caved in". Here are photos as I try to fix it.



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Posted 2015-04-09 9:29 PM (#474898 - in reply to #474897)
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When the body was bolted down on my "paint frame", I bolted a length of flat bar to the inside of the q panel with 3, 1/4" eye bolts. I secured the trunk geometry with a cable puller between the tail light holes and put a series of bungee cords pulling from the shop wall to the eye bolts. Pulling as hard as it would without pulling the car sideways.

Then I beat a heavy hammer repeatedly all along the length of that flat bar. I could check progress with a straight edge as shown. GOT IT !!

Greg



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