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Beltran
Posted 2013-10-02 10:23 PM (#401107 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		If you go back in this long thread a bit Bob describes the modifications he did to the frame and why. I believe it was because he wanted the wider tires and that required moving the springs inboard. There is some pics of the changes in here somewhere.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-10-03 4:32 AM (#401145 - in reply to #399194)
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bbrasse1 - 2013-09-23 11:12 PM

Hi,
Why did you move the rear axle bumpers inside of the frame??
Thanks,
Bob Brasse


Bob, Mark is correct there is brief mention of this mod early in the thread. The springs were moved inboard to make room for the wheels. The bump stop rubber brackets were simply welded on the other side of the chassis.



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Posted 2013-10-03 4:48 AM (#401146 - in reply to #401145)
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Posted 2013-10-03 7:28 PM (#401286 - in reply to #301594)
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earleebob
Posted 2013-10-07 8:34 PM (#402086 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-10-08 3:06 AM (#402113 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-10-08 10:03 AM (#402147 - in reply to #301594)
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Stay strong, Bob!

It will get there!



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Posted 2013-10-08 6:18 PM (#402244 - in reply to #301594)
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Not to late to throw a blower on there

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earleebob
Posted 2013-10-08 6:50 PM (#402248 - in reply to #301594)
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I want to cruise with a burst of power here and there.
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Posted 2013-10-08 6:53 PM (#402250 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-10-08 7:07 PM (#402254 - in reply to #402244)
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ttotired - 2013-10-09 8:18 AM

Hey Bob

Not to late to throw a blower on there


Michael is this what you had in mind?



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Posted 2013-10-08 8:06 PM (#402264 - in reply to #301594)
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Everyone says why, and thats a good reason to do it, no one else wants to

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Posted 2013-10-09 6:52 AM (#402330 - in reply to #301594)
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Ray Bell
Posted 2013-10-09 9:24 AM (#402339 - in reply to #301594)
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You've discussed the budget with your wife?
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Posted 2013-10-09 7:50 PM (#402499 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-10-09 7:55 PM (#402504 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-10-09 8:29 PM (#402525 - in reply to #301594)
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FIN ME
Posted 2013-10-10 10:46 AM (#402633 - in reply to #402339)
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Ray Bell - 2013-10-09 9:24 AM

...You've discussed the budget with your wife?




Wait a minute, you guys! I just realised something...

Seems to me, that the last time that something major went suddenly, and rather MYSTERIOUSLY wrong with Bob's resto...MRS. Bob got a spontaneous, FAB trip to Venice!

Methinks that Mrs. Bob's activties should be thoroughly investigated...I suspect sabotage may be afoot!

Ya just got to watch us women every darn minute!






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ttotired
Posted 2013-10-10 6:17 PM (#402735 - in reply to #301594)
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Sorry Bob, I poluted your thread

Go on, Put a blower on it

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earleebob
Posted 2013-10-10 6:54 PM (#402749 - in reply to #402735)
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ttotired - 2013-10-11 8:17 AM

I do watch a lot of women, but I dont think thats what you mean

Sorry Bob, I poluted your thread

Go on, Put a blower on it


I'm with you Mick,
sorry Rosy (cant go there) Mrs Bob also reads this thread.!!! but have to say she is co financier and loves the Flite and she's the one urging Karl to finish the new Hemi motor!



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Ray Bell
Posted 2013-10-10 7:14 PM (#402755 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia		Those slugs do look nice...

A very neat rotating assembly. I can't wait to drive it!
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earleebob
Posted 2013-11-21 11:32 AM (#412046 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		while the new donk is slowly progressing I sent the rest of the car back to the trimmer to finish das boot. It came up pretty well i thought.



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Posted 2013-11-21 1:09 PM (#412059 - in reply to #398319)
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57plymouth - 2013-09-18 5:46 AM

Your intake information is flawed. The smoother the intake port the higher the velocity. The higher the velocity the higher the volumetric efficiency.


While this is true for the dynamics of a pure gas, the distribution of fuel vapors in the airstream is improved with some turbulence. What is lost in maximum airflow is more than made up for in a more complete fuel burn.

Those ports look fine to me.

I'm just now reading of the original 392 letting go. I know you're trying to put a good face to the situation, but that is a nightmare on a finished, beautiful car like that. I hope the next one gives you a lifetime of happy miles. Cheers.

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FIN ME
Posted 2013-11-21 2:55 PM (#412078 - in reply to #301594)
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Bob, sorry if you've already covered this, but what is that blue plate on the inner surface of the bumper side of the trunk?

Glad to see ya posting again about your really GREAT DeSoto!


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Posted 2013-11-21 9:07 PM (#412142 - in reply to #412078)
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FIN ME - 2013-11-22 4:55 AM


Bob, sorry if you've already covered this, but what is that blue plate on the inner surface of the bumper side of the trunk?

Glad to see ya posting again about your really GREAT DeSoto!


:cool:

Hi Rosy always good to hear your comments and queries. The blue tag is called a "Modification Plate". When ever major changes are made to a vehicle in Queenssland or for that matter, Australia, an automotive engineer has to approve the changes. In this case the left to right conversion, the drum to disc brakes and the replacementof the Hemi to a 392 had to get the blue plate of approval. It is all about safety and there are some cowboys out there who have to be protected from themselves!
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earleebob
Posted 2013-11-21 9:45 PM (#412152 - in reply to #412059)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Danny thanks for your post. I couldnt agree more. Head design and modification is always a compromise. The original motor was over carburated with those 2 4BBLs but I wanted a particular look. So air velocity was going to be down. When we "cleaned up" the new heads it was really just to improve flow by takng out some restrictions- the ports are not polished but they now DO look a lot cleaner.

The issue with lack of turbulence occurs when the fuel vapour drops out of supension when air velocity drops too low for fluidization. This isn't going to happen in that "ugly" plenum. Big as it is, it is still a rabbit warren in there and now with another 1/2" shaved off the top, turbulence will be improved at a slight cost to flow. But at least now the carbies sit under the bonnnet with some clearance. And talking of carbies we have replaced the 2 monster 650 Hollies with a couple of smaller 580s. We have also trimmed the valve stems wasteing them just above the valve to help air flow. The heads now flow around 500 HP.

The engine has been successfully 'dummy aasembled', camshaft fitted and measurements made for the correct height pushrods. The bottom end is now away being balanced.

George Laurie was very helpful in sourcing a flywheel, bellhousing and starter so we can dyno the donk once it's fully built. (photos to come when I get back from Germany). Thanks George!

BTW we have removed the sump on the 'old' engine to find fine metal fragments in the bottom. By the time we had removed No.6 big-end we found the problem. The journal had the strangest pitting as if it hadnt been linished. White metal was almost non existant and the steel backing had begun to deposit on the crank. Nothing had let go (thank goodness). It was only at the stage of seizing. We'll do a full stripdown and rebuild at some stage as it is still basically a 'fresh' engine.
We also have a spare crank if this one is too far gone.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-11-21 11:51 PM (#412172 - in reply to #301594)
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FIN ME
Posted 2013-11-22 10:33 AM (#412222 - in reply to #301594)
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FAB boat!

Love the name! I might have called it "Hot Buttered Bay Bug", after my favourite Australian delicacy, but "Banshee" is a great name!

BTW - thanks for the info regarding that trunk plate!

Best of luck with the engine repairs!






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ttotired
Posted 2014-01-13 7:50 PM (#421894 - in reply to #301594)
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Hows the Desoto getting on?

Get that blower on there yet?

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Beltran
Posted 2014-01-14 10:29 PM (#422133 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		He sent me the magazine article it got published in... fabulous write up. Awesome pictures. I am hoping he posts it here for all to see. It's a Australian magazine called Street Machine. I keep checking the web page but it doesn't show the mag with his car in it yet.
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Posted 2014-01-21 12:39 AM (#423151 - in reply to #422133)
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Beltran - 2014-01-15 12:29 PM

He sent me the magazine article it got published in... fabulous write up. Awesome pictures. I am hoping he posts it here for all to see. It's a Australian magazine called Street Machine. I keep checking the web page but it doesn't show the mag with his car in it yet.


Hi Mark, Mick and and all my forward look friends
first of all a Happy 2014 to you all.
Things are moving- albeit slowly on the 57 Desoto front. The Hemi is slowly coming together! we want this one to die of old age!
here at last are the photos of the Street Machine Article. Please PM me if you cant read the print and I'll email the images to you
enjoy


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Posted 2014-01-21 6:39 AM (#423166 - in reply to #301594)
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It hangs for two months in my garage as inspiring.
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Posted 2014-01-21 7:18 AM (#423168 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-01-21 11:06 AM (#423199 - in reply to #301594)
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Ta-DAH!

Looks FABULOUS!

Your photos are great, Bob!


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Posted 2014-01-21 6:14 PM (#423270 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Perth Australia		Good article Bob

I never got the issue of street machine, I think I got the next one?

Anyway, good to hear its progressing

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Posted 2014-01-21 6:29 PM (#423272 - in reply to #423270)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Thanks Mick after I got permission from Street Machine to post the article on the Forum the editor, Simon Telford promised to send me a dozen hard copies. so when they turn up one is on its way to you!
Bob

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Posted 2014-01-21 6:35 PM (#423274 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Perth Australia		Cheers Bob

You going to deliver it in a really big box with a lifesize, working example of the subject matter?

That would be really nice

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Beltran
Posted 2014-01-21 6:48 PM (#423275 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-01-21 7:47 PM (#423281 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-01-21 7:55 PM (#423282 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-02-19 6:00 PM (#428047 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		I have sent two spare paper copies of the Desoto story which appeared in Australian Street Machine to America. One is with FIN ME (Rosy the terror of Colerado Boulevard) and the other with Beltran (Mark R with the 55 Desoto). Should anyone want one of these please contact them direct.
First in Best Dressed!

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Posted 2014-02-19 6:52 PM (#428052 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Perth Australia		I recieved my copy Bob, thankyou very much

I waited around to see if a car carrier turned up as well, but no

If he is lost somewhere, If you give me his number, I will call him with directions



Thanks Bob

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Posted 2014-02-19 7:40 PM (#428058 - in reply to #428052)
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Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia		....

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This is one car that I especially like, though it's not a purist restoration it's a really eye catching rebuild that essentially seems like a brand new car.

If fate hadn't got me a 59 Dodge at the time I reckon I would have tried for a Desoto of some sort, really classy cars, love 'em !!

Absolutely love those wheels Bob and I'm hoping to get something like them on my Dodge when I get to that point.

Thumbs up from me


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FIN ME
Posted 2014-02-20 3:09 PM (#428175 - in reply to #301594)
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Couldn't agree more!

That Bob is "a man of wealth and taste", as the song goes...a perfect combo when it comes to preserving a grand car in an absolutely stunning way!

Hats off to you, Bob!



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ToMopar
Posted 2014-02-21 3:13 AM (#428284 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-02-26 7:51 PM (#429119 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		Guys I have my two copies of the Mag. It is a really nice publication with a lot of high quality photo's in an extra large style magazine format. Anyone remember the Life magazine?

Anyway I have one extra so first come first serve if you want it PM me with the essentials and I will mail it to you.
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Posted 2014-02-27 8:54 AM (#429167 - in reply to #301594)
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Me too! I have an extra copy for the first person who requests it.

Really nice magazine! And a wonderful write up regarding Bob's amazing DeSoto.


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Posted 2014-03-03 6:27 AM (#429660 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: D-70199 Heslach		Bob, I have received your magazine, and I am glad to have one of these in my hands now.
Thanks a lot, hope my car is in an magazine soon...
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Posted 2014-03-04 3:19 AM (#429816 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2014-03-25 2:37 AM (#432906 - in reply to #301594)
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Some issues with the secondaries in the carbs not opening, but solved with softer diaphragm springs
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