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antonellomopar
Posted 2015-10-24 3:27 PM (#493068 - in reply to #255220)
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I still have some parts of the engine, like heads , and other small stuff, but they are not usable. The blck was cracked and was used for a table. Sorry
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Posted 2015-10-24 11:51 PM (#493098 - in reply to #255220)
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Gary Goers makes complete interior kits for all the Letter cars. He will be much faster than SMS, but it will still take some time. He's been doing them for about 35 years.

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antonellomopar
Posted 2015-10-26 4:57 AM (#493220 - in reply to #255220)
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I know that Gary has all the interior, but I hate the problems in communications with him. I have the catalog, simply don't understand why price on interior stuff is not included. Makes no sense in having to write him from Italy asking for prices than, waiting his reply, by mail, ..and then writing him back with order. This makes me sick. I had ordered things from him in the past, many many years ago, but things were slow even then. By reading on all comments, it seems that things have got worse
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Posted 2015-10-26 7:16 PM (#493294 - in reply to #255220)
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Reading this thread was like trying to read a thick novel, getting through Chapter 2 where the main character has a hangman's noose being wrapped around his neck, then jumping ahead to Chapter 22 where he married the Princess, is next in line for the Kingdom, is defeating the barbarians on the northern border while setting up his one detractor for defeat (death) in battle. It takes real imagination to fill in the blanks from the "before" and "current" pictures. This is what a car guy's fairy tale is made of.
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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-03-14 4:38 AM (#506755 - in reply to #255220)
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some updates. Car is now having wiring fixed.

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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-03-14 12:26 PM (#506795 - in reply to #255220)
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Were the donor side moldings from a Newport? Trying to figure out if a front fender spear can be cut down to make the one for the 300F.

Great to see this car rescued since it appears to be the only non-toilet seat F.
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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-03-14 12:45 PM (#506804 - in reply to #255220)
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Nick, most of the rear moldings were from a donor Saratoga. I am not sure about the short molding, I think they were original to the car. But guess a long one can be cut down to size. The car is one of four that has been built without the toilet seat decklid. Another is in the hands of Bob Merrit in NY State, don't know about the other two.
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Posted 2016-03-14 12:57 PM (#506808 - in reply to #506804)
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antonellomopar - 2016-03-14 9:45 AM

Nick, most of the rear moldings were from a donor Saratoga. I am not sure about the short molding, I think they were original to the car. But guess a long one can be cut down to size. The car is one of four that has been built without the toilet seat decklid. Another is in the hands of Bob Merrit in NY State, don't know about the other two.


I didn't know there were four with the flat lid. I thought there was only one. Definitely changes the look.
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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-03-14 3:25 PM (#506821 - in reply to #255220)
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That's was told me by previous owner who had the build sheet decoded by Gil Cunningham of the 300 Club. I prefer the look with the plain trunk lid...but it's not a big deal.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-06-06 10:37 AM (#513325 - in reply to #255220)
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Thanks Antonello for let me convert the radio of the 300F and let me be part of this amazing restoration!

A detailed conversion description will be posted in another thread.



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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-06-06 4:32 PM (#513358 - in reply to #255220)
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Thank you Denis, the you tube movie was fantastic. Hope to receive the radio soon. Good price and quick turnaround.
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Posted 2016-12-06 1:42 AM (#527989 - in reply to #255220)
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Hi Antonello

Did you get an interior for your wonderful 300 F? It's a long time ago since we had a PM conversation. I wish good luck for you with your astonishing 300F.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-12-06 3:01 AM (#527997 - in reply to #255220)
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Hello Dieter,SMS proved true to his tradition of false promises and endless excuses. To this day, i am still waiting delivery of their 300 F seat covers. At first, they have been waiting the leather to be dyed, then they forget to do the seat backs, and now everything is ready to ship...but have been waiting for the tracking number since last week. Also, the seat matherial for my 58 Belvedere is still waiting to materialize, it was ready to ship six moths ago, then they discovered there only was a small quantity to ship and had to make another batch. Well, everything is still going the usual way of working for SMS. Only problem they are the only ones on the market.
Now I have problems with the 413 engine in the F. When engine was finally tuned, it made some piston noises...and found out the clearances were completely wrong. Pistons inside are 0.40, so will need to find some 0.60 high compression pistons, or switch to another block and bore to 0.40 with the right tolerances. AM reallyn upset about this.
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Posted 2016-12-06 4:00 AM (#527998 - in reply to #255220)
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Hi Antonello

Thanks a lot for your reply. I still didn't decide from where I'll get my interior (preferred: door panels ready to mount, seat covers, headliner).

About your engine, it's a really sad story. If I were you I would be upset as well. In my mind I have just one more option for the restoration of the block. As far as I know there are specialised companies who could spray (with laser or plasma) melted material into tubes and pieces. For example the Pelton turbine propellers are getting a really hard surface prior to mount it into a turbine (in Switzerland, earlier on BBC or nowadays Asea Brown Bovery). So I just wonder if a company could decrease the diameter of the cylinder bore (with the same material like the block is) to allow to shave it to the correct size again.

Happy Restoring and good luck!

Dieter

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Posted 2016-12-06 4:34 AM (#527999 - in reply to #255220)
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The engine block can be re-sleeved with high quality sleeves.
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Posted 2016-12-06 6:00 AM (#528001 - in reply to #527999)
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wizard - 2016-12-05 10:34 AM The engine block can be re-sleeved with high quality sleeves.

Thanks Sven, IMHO that's an option for my engine as well. I'm going to measure the bore diameters this afternoon.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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Posted 2016-12-06 6:16 AM (#528002 - in reply to #255220)
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Yes Dieter, high quality sleeves with gap less piston rings would be very nice.
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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-12-06 12:12 PM (#528022 - in reply to #255220)
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sleeving the block will cost me $ 1300/1500....maybe its cheaper to get a virgin 413 block....
another option would be getting some 426 wedge pistons, but guess they are very hard to find
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Posted 2016-12-06 3:42 PM (#528045 - in reply to #528022)
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antonellomopar - 2016-12-06 5:12 PM

sleeving the block will cost me $ 1300/1500....maybe its cheaper to get a virgin 413 block....
another option would be getting some 426 wedge pistons, but guess they are very hard to find


Pistons available on eBay?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-Coated-Pistons-Rings-63-64-65-Chrysler-...

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Posted 2016-12-07 2:14 PM (#528108 - in reply to #528045)
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426 PISTONS are available from Egge for a few hundred bucks....
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Posted 2016-12-07 4:48 PM (#528137 - in reply to #255220)
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If you're going to bore out to 60thou you might as well use std 426 pistons anyway as you only need to go a few more thou over 60 to be at std 426 bore size?
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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-12-22 2:23 PM (#529516 - in reply to #255220)
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Have finally received the seat covers from SMS...and have to say they were worth the wait. Beautiful leather and nice print. Will post some pics later tomorrow.

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hemidenis
Posted 2016-12-22 5:01 PM (#529545 - in reply to #255220)
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amazing news Antonello, we are waiting to see the results...
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Posted 2016-12-22 7:07 PM (#529565 - in reply to #255220)
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Could someone tell me what purpose the diaphragm in the center of the throttle linkage serves? I see pictures of some engine bays without it and others have it. Thanks! And nice work with the F!!!

Edit: Found the answer on a youtube video, its to prevent stalling at a stop when brakes are used and engine vacuum drops, it will adjust (increase) the RPM of the engine.
Now why do some cars have it and others do not? Was it not a standard part used on all 300F?



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wizard
Posted 2016-12-23 2:40 AM (#529594 - in reply to #255220)
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The anti-stall pots was a standard part and all 300F's and G's had them.
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Posted 2016-12-23 11:39 AM (#529612 - in reply to #255220)
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amazing amount of work. Put some wire wheels on there



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antonellomopar
Posted 2016-12-23 2:12 PM (#529627 - in reply to #255220)
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Mike, wire wheels are already on the shelf...just have to buy tires....
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Posted 2016-12-23 2:33 PM (#529631 - in reply to #255220)
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sweet, get the white walls. Not sure this might be lowered a bit. Amazing car
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Posted 2016-12-23 2:56 PM (#529633 - in reply to #529565)
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51coronet - 2016-12-22 7:07 PM

Could someone tell me what purpose the diaphragm in the center of the throttle linkage serves? I see pictures of some engine bays without it and others have it. Thanks! And nice work with the F!!!

Edit: Found the answer on a youtube video, its to prevent stalling at a stop when brakes are used and engine vacuum drops, it will adjust (increase) the RPM of the engine.
Now why do some cars have it and others do not? Was it not a standard part used on all 300F?



ain't got much to do with braking, actually these only dampen/delay throttle blade closure to prevent stalling, and dashpots reduce oil consumption too and yes, every carbureted automatic car should have one. after ages driving without, i just added one to my car!
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Posted 2016-12-23 3:07 PM (#529634 - in reply to #529633)
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1960fury - 2016-12-22 8:56 PM
51coronet - 2016-12-22 7:07 PM Could someone tell me what purpose the diaphragm in the center of the throttle linkage serves? I see pictures of some engine bays without it and others have it. Thanks! And nice work with the F!!! Edit: Found the answer on a youtube video, its to prevent stalling at a stop when brakes are used and engine vacuum drops, it will adjust (increase) the RPM of the engine. Now why do some cars have it and others do not? Was it not a standard part used on all 300F?
ain't got much to do with braking, actually these only dampen/delay throttle blade closure to prevent stalling, and dashpots reduce oil consumption too and yes, every carbureted automatic car should have one. after ages driving without, i just added one to my car!

Even my 56NY (the Beast) has an antistalling dash pot as well. It still works after 60 years of duty.

Good luck with your restoration Antonello. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Dieter

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Posted 2016-12-23 4:45 PM (#529639 - in reply to #255220)
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Many antistalling dash pots has been destroyed during adjustment - it's important to keep the stud from turning - that will tear the membrane
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