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Location: West Chester, PA | djMikulec - 2010-10-01 4:06 PM
She's a beauty Ron, regardless of her history. Looks sweet just standing still. :)
Thanks Dave! It's funny how many weird things we find in these cars... So much time has passed, and so many owners. While stripping the dash to prep it for paint this past weekend, I came across the original brown paint under the old red paint. That was actually very nice to see. |
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Location: West Chester, PA | Stopped by the speed shop last night to drop off some bolts, my motor rebuild is just a few weeks away from being finished!
I can't wait!!!
Thanks to Gary P. for all of his guidance and help!
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| phurious - 2011-01-14 1:34 PM
Stopped by the speed shop last night to drop off some bolts, my motor rebuild is just a few weeks away from being finished!
I can't wait!!!
Thanks to Gary P. for all of his guidance and help!
Looks great!! Always fun to build or work on an engine. She will look sweet when you have her finished. What color are you painting the engine? |
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Location: West Chester, PA | Thanks! I am going back to the factory silver and gold. I actually bought the last 3 cans of factory correct mopar silver (in first picture) and the last 5 cans of the factory correct mopar golden lion gold that Chrysler could track down for me. She's going to have a bit more power now as well. Stock was 290 hp in 57, but she's .040 over now with a slightly more aggressive cam too, so I'm hoping for 315-325 hp. Either way, I am just looking forward to getting her back on the road this spring! |
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Location: Norway | Nice car!
There is a '57 Fury here in Norway that looks very much like yours. It was "updated" in the eighties, painted red with a white roof, red and white interior and '58 front valance. Otherwise all complete with all the Fury parts, right down to the dual quad 318 and in very good condition. |
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Location: West Chester, PA | 55 Savoy - 2011-01-14 6:20 PM
Nice car!
There is a '57 Fury here in Norway that looks very much like yours. It was "updated" in the eighties, painted red with a white roof, red and white interior and '58 front valance. Otherwise all complete with all the Fury parts, right down to the dual quad 318 and in very good condition.
Thanks Anders!
I'd love to see some pictures of the Norway Fury if you have any.
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Location: West Chester, PA | Almost ready to drop it back in!
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Location: West Chester, PA | It's in, still have a lot of work to do, but w're getting there...
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| phurious - 2011-02-28 2:06 PM
It's in, still have a lot of work to do, but w're getting there...
Looking good!! I see the hard to find 8 bolt crankshaft! Always fun building an engine!! |
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Location: West Chester, PA | a little more progress
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Location: Australia | What size engine is this and what cfm are the carbs, 2 or 4 bbl |
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Location: West Chester, PA | Hello, It's the factory 318 Poly with two Carter 4 bbls |
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Location: Sweden Vansbro | Looks great, Ron, both the car and engine.
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Location: bishop, ca | Just noticed something interesting, on this Poly 318.
In 1957, the Dodge 325 (Poly or Hemi) did not have any oil-breathers/fillers on the valve covers.
In 1958, the carry over 325 Poly got a breather/filler on the driver's side valve cover---an easy way to determine
the model year of that engine.
In 1957, did the single carbureted Plymouth 318 Polys have that breather/filler on the valve cover, or is that feature unique to
the dual carb'ed V800 engines?
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Location: West Chester, PA | Interesting observation and question Neil, but I'm afraid that I don't know the answer. |
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Location: West Chester, PA | Royal - 2011-03-23 4:34 PM
Looks great, Ron, both the car and engine.
Thank you! |
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Location: Sept. 1958 | d500neil - 2011-03-23 4:56 PM
In 1957, did the single carbureted Plymouth 318 Polys have that breather/filler on the valve cover, or is that feature unique to
the dual carb'ed V800 engines?
Yes, same valve covers, if that's what you mean. But it would have been a 301 since only 318s in 57s had dual carbs. |
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Location: Central Kentucky | Looks super. Both the Carter's on my dual quad setup are choke-less. I wonder if that's an oddity that I'll have to eventually correct. |
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Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Late to the party on this thread... NICE car. I like!
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Location: West Chester, PA | BarnFind57 - 2011-03-30 6:16 PM
Late to the party on this thread... NICE car. I like!
Thank you! She'll be at Carlisle in July, swing by and say hello if you can... |
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Location: West Chester, PA | OK, All signed up and can't wait until July!
Class: 56-58 Plymouth Fury
Club: Forward Look Network
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Location: West Chester, PA | I started working on this key chain last year, but got so busy that I had to put it down until just this week. It's based on the 56/57/58 Plymouth Fury fender script "F", and is made of solid sterling silver. It should be a nice touch for the show season...
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Location: Big pimpin' | djMikulec - 2011-03-24 9:35 PM
Looks super. Both the Carter's on my dual quad setup are choke-less. I wonder if that's an oddity that I'll have to eventually correct.
Dave, you will most likely need to find the "Front" and "Rear" carb's to match if you like/want it factory..I believe since the rear carb is the one the engine primarily ran on has the choke and the front carb (Secondary) had no choke if the 318 poly is like the 350 Golden Commando... |
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Location: West Chester, PA | The dash is just about finished as of last night. Next is the new carpet set and some seat foam...
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Location: West Chester, PA | The Fury gives up another surprise...
Last night while my buddy and I were removing the front seat and carpets, we noticed a wiring harness lying underneath the drivers side. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's evidence of a power front seat. There were also two spare power window motors marked "ok" underneath of the passenger side seat. We also laid the new ACC carpets in to let them relax for a few days before we actually install them. The quality of the new carpet set is really quite nice. This car never ceases to amaze me!
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Location: Sept. 1958 | Did you ever get the build info of your car from Chrysler? That would have the info on factory installed options. |
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Location: West Chester, PA | I do have a scanned copy of the IBM punch card, but it seems a little hard to make out and is a little confusing. All Fury's came stock with Solex glass. The Solex box is not checked off, but the PS & PB boxes are, but they too were standard on all Fury's. The AC box is also checked off.
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Location: CA | If your car was a factory power seat and window car there will be a kind of "junction" breaker panel behind the drivers side kick panel. |
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Location: West Chester, PA | Finsinthemirror - 2011-04-08 2:12 PM
If your car was a factory power seat and window car there will be a kind of "junction" breaker panel behind the drivers side kick panel.
Yes, you're right. It is still there. It is a small square-ish panel with a few studs on it. I'll take a picture of it and post it.
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand. | Correction.
Solex glass, Power brakes and Power steering were not standard on all Furys. A/C was not either.
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phurious - 2011-04-09 4:35 AM
I do have a scanned copy of the IBM punch card, but it seems a little hard to make out and is a little confusing. All Fury's came stock with Solex glass. The Solex box is not checked off, but the PS & PB boxes are, but they too were standard on all Fury's. The AC box is also checked off.
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Location: West Chester, PA | I did not think A/C was standard, but I always thought that Solex glass, P/S & P/B were standard on all 1957 Fury's. I've never heard of one or seen one without those options. I take it you have Glenn? |
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand. | Ron.
Sure have. Lots.
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Location: West Chester, PA | FURY - 2011-04-08 10:03 PM
Ron.
Sure have. Lots.
Glenn.
Interesting Glenn.
Do you know what option no. 103 would have been on the IBM punch card?
Example, 104 is power seat, 106 is power windows, 108 is p/s, 109 is p/b...
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand. | No I don't know what 103 is either.
My 105 is punched too and it also does not say what it is...
Also what is a "Handy Governor". Both mine and my buddy's 58 Fury build sheet has that selected.
I have a bit of info on the 58 Fury codes, but have found nothing for the 57 Fury.
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Location: Williams California | phurious - 2011-04-08 6:59 PM
I did not think A/C was standard, but I always thought that Solex glass, P/S & P/B were standard on all 1957 Fury's. I've never heard of one or seen one without those options. I take it you have Glenn?
My Fury was ordered with power brakes, but manual steering, Ron.
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Location: bishop, ca | A 57-58 factory power seat car should have some very obvious, very deep, power-motor-mechanism troughs brazed into
the floor pans.
Those troughs can be cut out of a donor car and then can be installed into a non-power seat car after receptacle-openings
are (carefully) cut into the recipient car's floor pans.
In 1959, the power mechanisms were greatly reduced in height, to the extent that no special recessing of the floor pans was necessary
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Location: West Chester, PA | big m - 2011-04-09 11:28 AM
phurious - 2011-04-08 6:59 PM
I did not think A/C was standard, but I always thought that Solex glass, P/S & P/B were standard on all 1957 Fury's. I've never heard of one or seen one without those options. I take it you have Glenn?
My Fury was ordered with power brakes, but manual steering, Ron.
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Location: West Chester, PA | Finsinthemirror - 2011-04-09 7:11 PM
I don't believe the plymouth had the "deep" pans. I had a loaded one and the floor pan had no trough.
Now that's interesting...
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | My 57 also has a "standard " type floor pan with the power seat option. Appears to be factory judging by wiring/connectors etc. Seat was bolted in place with mechanisms on it when I bought it and there was room. I have since removed these mechanisms for reconditioning and have manual runners for now. I have never run the seat out to its fore and aft extremities with the electrics because they were broken/ seized at the time.I hope it all clears when reinstalled !!! that would be a royal P.I.T.A.Anyone have a pic of the troughed floor pan please?Colin |
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | By the way Ron, That big yellow wire running from starter solenoid in engine bay thru to LH upper kickpanel circuitbreaker is a "hot" lead. Unfused. I was going to fuse mine close to the battery.... FYI. From memory the power windows and power seat run off this juice wire. Colin |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Correct, both the PS and PW get their juice from that stud fed by the yellow wire.
Regarding the seat troughs, I understood that all pre-59 cars got the troughs to
accomodate the larger power mechanisms in the 57-58 seats. My DeSoto has the
troughs, however I cannot recall ever doing work or parting a PS Plymouth to say
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Location: West Chester, PA | 57plybel - 2011-04-10 4:31 AM
By the way Ron, That big yellow wire running from starter solenoid in engine bay thru to LH upper kickpanel circuitbreaker is a "hot" lead. Unfused. I was going to fuse mine close to the battery.... FYI. From memory the power windows and power seat run off this juice wire. Colin
Hey Colin, thanks for the info! You are right about the "hot" lead. My power windows run even when the car is off with no keys in the ignition. The power seat harness is also hooked into the same junction panel too.
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Location: Sept. 1958 | Perhaps because the Plymouth Power Seat is really only 2 way (up and forward/ down and backward) while wasn't the other divisions have 4 way, needing more room in the floor area?
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A PS Plymouth is a rare critter. Not many built to reference. I was blown away to see Colin's
57 Belvedere was a PW car! I have only seen a fistful of top-of-the-line Fireflites with power
windows! A low price car is far less likely to have those kind of options installed.
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Location: West Chester, PA | This power seat motor was removed from my friend Roland's 1957 Belvedere from the infamous Swiss yard that was cleared last year.
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