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imopar380
Posted 2013-08-11 12:41 AM (#390703 - in reply to #390527)
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jimntempe - 2013-08-09 11:25 AM

Was the Canadian built version actually a Polara or was it a Dart with the Polara name on it?


The Canadian Polara was identical to the US version as far as exterior trim. The engine was a 361, not a 383 and the upholstery was the same as the US built Matador. Canada had the full three model Dart series, Seneca, Pioneer and Phoenix which were equipped with Plymouth interiors and Plymouth dash boards but the Polara used the standard Dodge dash board. The Matador was not sold in Canada. There were no D-500s built in Canada. Below are a couple of photos of my ex-Polara. It's a loaded car - factory equipped with Power windows, auto headlamp dimmer, rear defogger, dual outside mirrors ( left remote), power pack ( 4 barrel and dual exhaust) brake warning light, front and rear bumper guards. It's had a lot of options added - mirror-matic, satellite clock, power swivel seats, power antenna, electric trunk release, and most recently the owner, my freind Ron has added a vintage Chrysler under-dash Airtemp A/C system, finished it just a couple of weeks ago before we went to the Wenatchee WPC Meet. It may be the most loaded 1960 Polara in existence. The steering wheel is original, no cracks or shrinkage, even in the clear areas, just yellowed.

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jimntempe
Posted 2013-08-11 3:12 AM (#390716 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: Arizona		Very sharp car. I noticed the Temp Lever for the heat is "on full". Is that for the same reason mine is? Replaced the water valve the "easy way"?
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imopar380
Posted 2013-08-11 11:36 AM (#390749 - in reply to #390716)
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jimntempe - 2013-08-11 12:12 AM

Very sharp car. I noticed the Temp Lever for the heat is "on full". Is that for the same reason mine is? Replaced the water valve the "easy way"?


Don't know why its on heat but as far as I know the heater control valve is working fine. What's the "easy way"?
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Posted 2013-08-11 3:09 PM (#390761 - in reply to #390749)
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jimntempe - 2013-08-11 12:12 AM

Very sharp car. I noticed the Temp Lever for the heat is "on full". Is that for the same reason mine is? Replaced the water valve the "easy way"?


Don't know why its on heat but as far as I know the heater control valve is working fine. What's the "easy way"?


The "easy" (and less expensive) way to fix a bad/leaking heater valve is to just disconnect it and put an inline valve in the hose. The original cable control can be moved to the replacement inline valve. But the movement is opposite to the original. So "off" becomes the "full heat" position on the dashboard lever and "full heat" becomes the "off" position on the dashboard lever. Cars so modified can usually be spotted by their inside lever being pushed all the way to "full heat" which for them is actually off. That's how my Matador is set up. Photo shows the valve in the hose. Other photo shows the lever inside.



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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-11 3:32 PM (#390767 - in reply to #231525)
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This is the easy way, to prevent hot air from always coming out of the heater.

Gotta get around to touching up that paint, though; be careful where you install that
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ExWagonista
Posted 2013-09-09 4:10 PM (#396557 - in reply to #231525)
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Posted 2013-09-09 7:15 PM (#396586 - in reply to #396557)
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ExWagonista - 2013-09-09 1:10 PM

Ian..great to see the progress on the wagon...but we need to talk about priorities Fury v Polara? ;)! Hey just one point the Chrysler rear doors had the fin starts beginning with the back doors but all other wagon doors indeed were shared.


Actually, it's Aaron's car not mine. :-) Also on 1960 Chrysler wagons, the fin runs right through the front doors to the front fender line. In 1961 the fin line was cut short on the front door, so you could bolt Dodge or Plymouth fenders onto a Chrysler, and vise-versa and in 1962 the fins were all gone so doors were interchangeable on all full sized wagons.
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Posted 2013-09-10 12:35 AM (#396674 - in reply to #231525)
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I've been making progress. I'm limited to nights during the school year, but I've made great progress when the kids are at camp!

The priorities are simple. Family/kids come first (which includes the Fury Jr's) and then the Polara. It'll get there... And when it does, it'll be amazing!

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Posted 2013-09-10 1:53 AM (#396693 - in reply to #231525)
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I forgot about the 60 and 61 Chryslers... oops.

A blast from the past... the car as I found it.

Aaron

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Posted 2013-09-10 2:15 AM (#396699 - in reply to #231525)
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And now, rust free, running, and driving!



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Posted 2013-10-27 10:53 PM (#406553 - in reply to #231525)
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I promised my 6 year old that I'd take the 58 Fury jr to this year's Fall Fling show. I had the Jeep cleaned and ready to take the little car... And then it broke down. The Jeep went off to the dealer to get fixed under warranty, while I went home to figure out what to do.

With the sun already down on Friday night, and the understanding that the only car I could use to transport the Fury jr was the Polara, I had a decision to make. Only problem, it had no fenders, lights, wipers, or any of the things that would make the police think it was "street legal."

Three hours later it was together enough to go. I drove it to get gas at midnight . Early Saturday morning I went for a test drive on the way to the show. It was a 65 MPH blast down the freeway and it ran great! It was a big surprise for my kids and a couple of friends... Since the car was it pieces the day before and the farthest I had driven it was around the block.

Here are some pics:

Aaron



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Posted 2013-10-27 10:57 PM (#406554 - in reply to #231525)
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Well, here's a photo that Aaron can't post up...as seen at Fall Fling



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Posted 2013-10-27 11:03 PM (#406556 - in reply to #231525)
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Love it, Neil! Wish we could have had more time to chat!

Here's another pic.

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FIN ME
Posted 2013-10-28 8:14 AM (#406593 - in reply to #231525)
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Love the Polara, the Fury Jr, and the C-300 Jr too!

Thank you for the photos!


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Posted 2013-10-28 9:20 AM (#406600 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: NY & VT		Great pics Aaron... and 2 great kids!! I'm sure they'll be "indoctrinated" into Mopars as thoroughly as your ex Pres WPC Dad did with you!... and Neil is also there to help them along!
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Posted 2013-10-28 9:44 AM (#406605 - in reply to #406600)
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Location: Parts Unknown		I believe our current society would consider this child endangerment or flat-out abuse !

The mental scarring from exposure to icky old cars, they'll never get over, even with a lifetime
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I know I haven't.
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Posted 2013-10-28 11:34 AM (#406661 - in reply to #231525)
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Posted 2013-10-28 1:10 PM (#406695 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: Georgia		Terrific photos, Aaron! You made the best decision, it looks like it was a memorable show! To enjoy the old cars with the kids
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Posted 2013-10-28 1:17 PM (#406698 - in reply to #231525)
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This is why it was so important.



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Posted 2013-10-28 1:28 PM (#406702 - in reply to #406698)
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Posted 2013-10-28 1:48 PM (#406708 - in reply to #406556)
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Location: So. Cal		It was great meeting you Aaron. I had a gray mechanic's shirt on and was talking with Per if you haven't figured it out. I love your wagon. It looks like your family will be enjoying it as much as you do. I didn't see Neil or his car though. He must have come on Sunday when I wasn't there. I really wanted to see Gary's Chrysler, but he didn't show up on Saturday either . Oh well, some other time.
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Posted 2013-11-07 8:30 AM (#409082 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: UK		Great pics and progress Aaron. You must have been grinning from ear to ear driving it and with no hood too. Nice!
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C-300
Posted 2014-01-13 10:06 PM (#421919 - in reply to #231525)
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A little update...

I've been working on the car with the limited time I have. I replaced the original one-year/one-model Holley with a new afb. The Holley was leaking and I could never get it to seal properly or run right. With the new carb, it fires on the first crank and runs perfectly. The Holley is on the shelf.

I also got the hood on. It fits well, and I'll align and shim the fenders before I send it off to the body shop. The fenders are off a matador, so I'll have to drill the holes for the fender top ornament bases.

In the meantime, it's good enough to drive around town as I work out the rattles and other minor issues.

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Posted 2014-01-13 10:29 PM (#421928 - in reply to #406553)
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C-300 - 2013-10-27 10:53 PM

I promised my 6 year old that I'd take the 58 Fury jr to this year's Fall Fling show. I had the Jeep cleaned and ready to take the little car... And then it broke down. The Jeep went off to the dealer to get fixed under warranty, while I went home to figure out what to do.

With the sun already down on Friday night, and the understanding that the only car I could use to transport the Fury jr was the Polara, I had a decision to make. Only problem, it had no fenders, lights, wipers, or any of the things that would make the police think it was "street legal."

Three hours later it was together enough to go. I drove it to get gas at midnight . Early Saturday morning I went for a test drive on the way to the show. It was a 65 MPH blast down the freeway and it ran great! It was a big surprise for my kids and a couple of friends... Since the car was it pieces the day before and the farthest I had driven it was around the block.

Here are some pics:

Aaron
Did you forget your driving a REAL car called a FL Dodge not a wanna be Dodge called a Jeep. LOL I know you had a warm and fuzzy feeling driving that Wagon. Especially hauling kids and another REAL car. Your Da Man!!!
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Posted 2014-01-16 11:37 PM (#422468 - in reply to #231525)
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I finally drove it to work (it's only 1.5 miles away). It ran well but there are a lot of things that need attention. I'll start with the kinked speedometer cable.

Aaron



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Posted 2014-01-17 6:33 AM (#422497 - in reply to #231525)
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Posted 2014-01-18 9:11 AM (#422711 - in reply to #231525)
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Aaron, I bet your wonderful wagon made a real impact! What a great example of a real get-outta-my-way FL wagon.

The Beast has landed, indeed! I love it.

Have you considered changing your horn tone to this? - http://www.myxer.com/ringtone/id/114202/501stGhostRider/05-The-Impe...


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Posted 2014-01-25 9:09 PM (#424069 - in reply to #231525)
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Posted 2014-01-26 12:32 AM (#424096 - in reply to #231525)
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Yeah. That's mine. I took it to Bobs for the first time on Friday night. It ran well, but it was tricky with no turn signals... And I couldn't see anything out of the mirrors! I filled the tank up with gas for the first time too. Learned that the sending unit leaks where the tube goes through the plate... So that came out today. It was also leaking coolant out of one of the exhaust manifold studs and the oil pan bolts were not tight. The collection of fluids on the garage floor made me laugh. All of the leaks were fixed this morning... Except for the sending unit. I'll deal with that sometime this week.

It was a lot of fun to drive and it got a lot of attention.
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Posted 2014-01-26 9:17 PM (#424243 - in reply to #424096)
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Location: So. Cal		Wow, you must of arrived early to get a front row seat. That place is always so crowded.

This is one of my favorite forwardlook ads for a '57 Dodge station wagon. There is a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor in that last sentence that any parent would understand.

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C-300
Posted 2014-03-30 12:39 AM (#433761 - in reply to #231525)
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The past few months have been spent working out some bugs and making the car a reliable driver. I'll finish it up this summer, but for now, I'm having too much fun driving it around to worry about the primed fenders and lack of carpet! Today I took it to go pick up a few trees at a local nursery. On the way there, a girl driving on the freeway took a picture of the car . It was definitely an odd moment! I also ran it pretty hard and chirped the tires when it hit second gear. I was surprised that the trans shifted so quickly, but happy with the fact that a car this big has some hustle in her.

I'm looking forward to the Spring Fling show in two weeks. After that, the fenders will come off and I'll get started with the last leg of this restoration.

Aaron




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Posted 2014-03-31 8:58 AM (#433957 - in reply to #231525)
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Looking GOOD, C-300!

You are going to have major GUNS keeping that black paint looking as good as you do! Very nice!


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Posted 2014-03-31 12:15 PM (#433982 - in reply to #231525)
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ahead and enjoy them as is. No doubt your wagon will be beautiful when done, but it's fantastic that you are enjoying her now.
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Posted 2014-05-26 12:34 AM (#442270 - in reply to #231525)
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I've been driving it around for the past few months... And fixing all of its minor drivability issues. Next week the front fenders are coming back off so I can do the final bodywork on them and make the car one color. As a teacher, I have summers off... And the kids are big enough to help! So I should make some solid progress over the next few months. In the meantime, here's a picture that explains how and where I drive it -- pretty much anywhere and everywhere with no fear!

Aaron



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Posted 2014-08-07 2:30 AM (#451899 - in reply to #231525)
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I painted the Polara today. It's amazing how different it looks now that it's all one color! I should be able to sand and polish it -- and get all of the trim back on -- in the next week or so.

Aaron



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Posted 2014-08-07 4:16 PM (#451944 - in reply to #231525)
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Posted 2014-08-07 5:12 PM (#451950 - in reply to #451944)
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Posted 2014-08-08 8:18 PM (#452154 - in reply to #231525)
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It's becoming more "car" and less "project".



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Posted 2014-08-09 7:04 PM (#452259 - in reply to #231525)
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There... That's better. Now on to the interior.

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Posted 2014-08-09 7:54 PM (#452265 - in reply to #452259)
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Posted 2014-08-10 3:26 PM (#452327 - in reply to #231525)
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Neil, I hear the sarcasm! It was a longer road than I expected... And there is still lots of work to do.
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Posted 2014-08-12 1:16 PM (#452627 - in reply to #231525)
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Almost done with the exterior.



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Posted 2014-08-12 1:23 PM (#452629 - in reply to #452627)
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Posted 2014-08-12 2:10 PM (#452638 - in reply to #231525)
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Ian,

The car came with a complete, already sewn, NOS interior kit. The previous owner bought it in the 1980's from original auto interiors. It will be done by the end of the year.

Aaron
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Posted 2014-08-14 12:58 AM (#452855 - in reply to #231525)
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Picked up the lower grille trim and rear view mirror from the chrome shop today. I should have them back on by tomorrow night.

Aaron

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Posted 2014-08-14 2:00 AM (#452862 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: bishop, ca		Aron wrote: "...Neil, I hear the sarcasm! It was a longer road than I expected... And there is still lots of work to do."

That warn't sarcasm, but good old Under-statement/reverse psychology...and positive-impression; as in WELL done; you made
this demanding project LOOK easy...once it is done!

Congrats!

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Posted 2014-08-16 10:43 PM (#453224 - in reply to #231525)
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I can't believe it's been four years since I brought the Polara home! I laughed and shook my head as I reread my posts... And how the plans changed over time.

Getting laid off didn't help the timeline very much. Buying the Fury Juniors was a worthwhile distraction. I learned a lot about rust and did the body work and paint myself. My friends (well... One in particular) were completely supportive and kept me motivated.

At this point, the exterior is about where I want it. The interior needs carpet and the seat covers installed... And then I'll consider it done. Of course, they never are truly "done". There will always be something to do.

I took it to Bob's Big Boy last night for the first time with the front end assembled. As I drove there, a hearse and funeral procession entered the freeway next to me. It was very strange... Like the other professional cars were giving the old timer an escort to the cruise night! It was an odd moment. I just hoped the procession wouldn't get confused and follow me to Bob's!

Once the interior is done, I'll post some pics. In the meantime, here are some of the latest photos -- including a shot from Bob's and an impromptu mopar wagon car show held this morning.

Aaron



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Posted 2014-08-16 11:30 PM (#453228 - in reply to #231525)
Subject: Re: 1960 Polara wagon



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Location: Perth Australia		Funny you say about the funeral procession

I want to paint the plymouth black, but my wife said she would never ride in it because it would look like a funeral car

Might be a good reason to paint it black

Really does look great (all good things take time)

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Posted 2014-08-17 8:27 AM (#453253 - in reply to #231525)
Subject: Re: 1960 Polara wagon



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VERY nice, C-300!

All of your hard work has paid off, that's for sure. Your really great wagon is going to turn heads wherever it goes!

Drive with pride!

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Posted 2014-08-17 9:51 AM (#453259 - in reply to #231525)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		Fantastic ride! Those Polara longroofs sure has a lot of "want to have factor"
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