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Location: jersey | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-05-19 6:49 AM
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Do to some nice finds at Carlisle, a dual quad 383, later model t-flite(still with pushbuttons) and a 3.91 sure grip from a body will be the drivetrain. Underhood will be made to look like a '58 golden commando, down to the red boot on 1 plug terminal. She's also gettin disc brakes from a volare/aspen, and a set of torq-thrusts. kinda like a parts runner wagon in the 60's for a Mopar race team. Color and Interior will remain stock. Nothing will be done to where it can't be restored to stock if the future calls for it.
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What? anyone can restore a car to stock. Then it will be just another restored car that looks like the rest. How boring.
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Location: jersey | roof paint
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Location: Lemoore CA | I guess I would have a hard time changing that car, since it made it this far in such an original state. Having said that, I think you should make it how you want it, otherwise it will never actually feel like your car. Still, I wouldn't tell too many people what the car used to be as you will have to defend your choices for the rest of your ownership. |
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Location: northern germany | 58sportsuburban - 2011-05-30 12:48 PM
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Location: bishop, ca | It's only original once.
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Location: jersey | The car already had one repaint, Joe Caldwell who i purchased her from had to spend good money to have the engine rebuilt cause it was toast,, and the interior, except for the dash and door panels, was in poor shape.
The ONLY time a car is original is when it comes off the assembly line. If something is changed, it's not original anymore.
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Location: central Illinois | 58sportsuburban - 2011-05-30 3:19 PM
The car already had one repaint, Joe Caldwell who i purchased her from had to spend good money to have the engine rebuilt cause it was toast,, and the interior, except for the dash and door panels, was in poor shape.
The ONLY time a car is original is when it comes off the assembly line. If something is changed, it's not original anymore.
Nothing i'm doping is preventing the car to be returned back to original appearance if i want to.
Easier said than done.
Was the original engine and transmission gone? How about original radiator? I remember when the big craze was Pro Street. That went away and now all those chopped and molested cars are Pro Touring. There's plenty of cars that have been geeked up in one way or another. The solid originals are continuing their slow and painful death.
All said, you stepped up with the cash when the oppurtunity presented itself. I personally, would have looked for more a project car if I were going the Resto Rod or Pro Tourer route. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | That was my original point. Nice originals should be saved. There are plenty of pre-molested
cars to be further molested to suit one's taste out there without messing up another original. 
It is your car now, but one man's "cool" is another man's shameful embarrassment. No one
would be laughing behind your back with a well restored original like yours. I can guarantee the
opposite is not true.
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Location: jersey | she's in prime. Had at least one repaint and was hiding a few sins, but no rust or rot.
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| after reading all the input, responses, and commentary.. i figured i'd address responses to some of them.... first- regarding the possibility of "tall tales" about fuel mileage with 3.91s... anyone who has doubts is invited to take a 6 hour trip, calculate miles covered, and gallons used... 3,91s are very "street" gears.. though i do have a few conservative geared [2.76, 3.23] vehicles... 4.10s start bringing the revs up, 4.56s [with the way people drive now] can keep you out of the fast lane. as an engineer, i'm not going to bore anyone with theory on volumetric efficiency, but the basis people give to low revs with gas mileage is a very typical laymen assumption/mistake, and engine is most efficient at it torque peak, why a 500 caddy is geared with sub 3 gear ratios... 425ft-lbs at 2200 rpm or so, in my case torque peak is around 5000, so taching 4400 for a few hours is efficient.
as for harmonics on poly blocks, in 57/58 only fury [FP31/FLP8] 318s were so equipped, 277, 301, 318 standard engines had stamped pulley/hub assemblies.
"they're only original once" is true, and had this one been as original as mike, joe, and eric had thought... the mileage was either 113,xxx or 213xxx miles, as the trans was on its second rebuild, with doubled-up intermediate>direct drum repair thrust bushings [to compensate for embedded originals failing].. the pedals were worn to the metal cores, as well as the fact the front seat was reupholstered, and then driven enough to destroy the replacement seat. cylinder bores were naturally ridged to between .007-.012 over.
some people strive to preserve a piece of history by restoring to stock specs, which is nice, and i have done that for significant vehicles of my own, many forwardlook and others- including a 57 premier convertible, 58 golden commando savoy, and in the near future 57 fury and 57 savoy dealer campaigned racer. what eric did here is what he wanted to do, and in reality only made it better- someone who sticks with drum brakes to stay original then opts to drive it regularly is jeapordizing their own vehicle- think about it- when the G8 in front of you executes a panic stop, you're rearending him! |
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Location: jersey | JIMS!!!!! glad to have you over. |
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Location: jersey | can we say straight?
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Location: jersey | so?
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Location: jersey | New wheels. I can swap between these and my others.
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Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Good looking Suburban... and I like the wheels... both sets....  |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | Looks nice! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Jim, great wisdom in your words! and Eric, love your philosophy on how your car should be!!
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Location: USA - KY | 
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I like the colour choices - looks very straight to me - enjoy!
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Location: jersey | Thanks guys.
That's the Factory Copper Glow color. I was lucky enough to get this car from fellow forum member Joe ( Christine's Revenge)
This is the custom roof paint by Fury Jim.
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Location: Blythewood, SC | I'd never be able to get a lace paint job that nice. I'm just not that good of a painter. |
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Location: South Australia | That looks a million bucks mate,i love a sleeper.
And best of all,it's another Forward looker saved from the crusher.
Top job. |
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | very nice . It seems this car was well taken care of. The motto is take care of your car and it will take care of you. |
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Location: Signal Mountain, TN | I still keep staring at the roof job... That's awesome....
The rest of the car is pretty sweet too.
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Location: Falicon 06 France | Very nice wagon, that's the same color my 58 wagon ( custom suburban ) was painted when left the factory. It is now black but will recover it's original one. Do you have modern ref paint for Copperglow to see if I can make it done here in France ??
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Location: jersey | I could never paint like that Fury Jim did that.
This was the car that Mike Heredia found in a garage in cali back in '08. He in turn sold it to Joe Caldwell, and i purchased it from him. Keeping it in the Forward Look family.
The paint was matched using the data tag that was taken to the paint supply house and matched. It's the closest we could get it. From what i'm told the original paint used crushed glass to get the "iridescent" look to it. |
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Location: Williams California | I REALLY like that copper glow paint!!!
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i didn't think anyone even remembered lace . once had a 48 indian , burgundy with black lace . good to see someone still knows how to do it . good lookin ride ! -------------------------------------------------------later
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Location: jersey | I got NOS tail light housings, a rear bumper, reverse light pods, reverse light kit, and fin tops. So the rear of the car has all NOS chrome, except for the lock mechanism.
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Location: Ny | 58sportsuburban - 2011-06-23 7:47 PM
can we say straight?
Jeff says: "No, we can't. It has a COC painted on it, so it's queer." LMAO!
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