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BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | I will start by saying that this 59 has invoked a lot of curiosity and speculation. The booklet that I had Morgan post was received by me almost 19 years ago when I got the car and all I am trying to do is verify it's authenticity. I have had fun reading everyone's posts. I received the IBM card and cover letter today and so here it is. Pretty sure now that all I have is a standard New Yorker. We've already started the restoration and it will be as authentic as humanly possible. There are a few items that still need decoding so any help is very much appreciated. (IBMtop.bmp) (IBMbottm.bmp) (chrystlercoverpagesmall.bmp) Attachments ---------------- IBMtop.bmp (159KB - 172 downloads) IBMbottm.bmp (248KB - 175 downloads) chrystlercoverpagesmall.bmp (164KB - 169 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Well, I can tell you that its OEM convertible top was white. And, its tires were White Wall Rayon, in 9.00x14". I wonder how 'they' : "shaded the REAR window"??? | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Your car was also 'special' ordered by a dealer, so it was purpose-built, instead of being built for inventory/stock. WHY it was dealer-ordered shall remain one of Life's Great Mysteries....unless you can track down the surviving member(s) of the original owner's family. Edited by d500neil 2010-07-07 6:42 PM | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | Thank you for looking at this Neil. This car's paperwork has been bugging me for so long and now I am content now that I have the IBM. I was not getting my hopes up about anything in this booklet. As far as actual ownership, that will probably never be known unless Oregon DMV could do a search. I got this car almost 19 years ago. It took 2 weekends of tree cutting (sorry tree huggers!) and moving cars to get it off a mountain junk yard in N. California.(but it's MINE, ALL MINE! HAHAHAHA) Would the 331 blue interior code constitute a special order? or was a blue interior available in Chrysler as well as Desoto. As far as the shaded rear window, a friend of mine said they could have had a tinted rear plastic window as he had Buick convertible of the same vintage with one as well as his 63 Electra convert. So not sure if you could ever reproduce these. Thanks for the help | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | Sorry, one more thing. The antenna that was in the car when I got it was a power one so I don't know if it was added or if the codes are correct. | ||
MoparLasse |
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Veteran Posts: 108 Location: North of Sweden | PICTURES?! | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Funny you should mention the Oregon DMV. Decades ago, I tried to track down the ownership history/whereabouts of the D501 which had been featured in the 10/58 Rod & Custom magazine, which had been owned by an Oregonite, and the car's 1958 license plate is legible in the article's photos. Turns out that a catastrophic fire had destroyed all of the ORDMV's records sometime in the '60's (forget the date, now), so, we're all S-O-L with the ORDMV historical records. "331" does not look like any special-order reference code, and a blue interior was about as basic of a color as can be imagined. The "antenna" code "1" does certainly look like it would confirm a power front fender antenna, since your car has one on it. If that Option Box had been 'blank', then it would appear that your car's power antenna had been installed sometime after the car left the factory. Obviously, if a car had a "radio" in it (either individually, or as part of an Option Group) it would, also, get an "antenna" at no-additional-charge(!)...so, that Option Box WOULD be 'blank' if EITHER...the car had been built w/o a radio, or, if a standard manual radio-mast had been installed on it. A code "2" in that Option Box would probably confirm Dual rear Antennae, since we know that your car has a power antenna, and, its got that "1" in the Antenna Box. Edited by d500neil 2010-07-08 5:50 PM | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Your car was "ordered" by its selling dealership in precisely the colors and trim that appeared on it. Whether the dealer decided that it wanted a nice piece of showroom eye-candy, or whether a customer specifically wanted your car in its schemes, is open to some question. I'd never before heard it mentioned that there may have been an optional "shaded' rear plastic window, in a Vert (or in a 'hard-top' )---altho a shaded back glass WOULD be a great thing to have on those "Sky High" back window models!!!! I don't know the 59 CHRY "Solex" codings, but, I almost believe that the H.S. might be in error when it refers to your convertible as having a "shaded" back window!!!! ...The H.S. states, above, that the back 'window' is "shaded (and, tinted)" , rather than just "tinted". Edited by d500neil 2010-07-08 6:03 PM | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Some more neat stuff: your car may have been picked-up at the factory by its proud new owner! You have a "1" in the "DRIVE" option box, which, for Dodges, confirms the "Customer Drive-Away" program. Dodges also have an option box-code for "[New-]Car Service", which confirms that a car was made ready-to-drive at the factory. I don't see any "Car Service" option box on your IBM card, so, maybe CHRY didn't prepare a car for immediate driving, when it arrived at the dealership---but, that seems to be unlikely to me. Also, your car was actually built on the day that it was "Scheduled" to have been built---6/23/59---which DID occur with some cars which were owner-driven-away from the factory. So, my SWAG is that the customer 'ordered' your car and arranged to drive it away from the factory (on the day that it was built). | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | "finally"(?), I see that there is an option for "Power Observation Window"----a SUNROOF???? '60 Turdbirds had them, but '59 CHRY's? I don't see any coding for your car's "[Delivery-] Route"; there was a Route-code for Dodges when an owner drove-it away from the factory, but, I see no Route Code for your car, and the next option box on the IBM card :"Group(??) Ship" is also blank. ...Glad that it's at least coded for "Drive" !!! | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Power Observation Window - wouldn't that be the big folding white piece of material stretched over the interior? Sounds like a NICE car... sure would love to see some pictures. Reading Neil's commentary, I'd think there are some photos from the day the car was picked up. I remember a member's '57 Chrysler hardtop has similar pictures (Sartana? 5859?). Congratulations on a fine ride, thanks for sharing- | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | I've started putting pics of the restoration in a folder. Check it out. just epoxy sealed the inside of the fenders and hood today. have to downsize the pics to post. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Brian, You may not remember this, but you contacted me back when I had my wrecking yard looking for parts for this car. I have long wondered what became of you and your car. Let's see those pix ! I hope you got some of pulling the car out of the woods. Pix like that are priceless when the car is all pretty again. | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | 57 burb...I would love to find those pictures!...I am posting the pics on the FL site and on my photobucket site when I get time. This is going to be a year long restoration (hopefully only that long!) We're trying to have it done for Mopars at the Strip in Vegas 2011. | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | BTW...Neil.. were wing tip bumpers standard or optional on New Yorkers?? | ||
crvsir |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | BrianD - 2010-07-13 11:46 PM BTW...Neil.. were wing tip bumpers standard or optional on New Yorkers?? Standard.... | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hi Brain! Looks great the NY works. Hope to see it finish one day. At cover letter: Solex Glass 6: Incudes shades rear windows. What they mean tined plastic window...or glass? | ||
BrianD |
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Regular Posts: 78 Location: Orland Ca | Joakim, I have had two people tell me now that the original back windows were glass. Still trying to verify that though. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | BOY, I dunno....I think that glass back windows may have come 'in' around 1965....my daddy insured a Fart dealership, in the 60's, and IIRC, our 65 Galaxie 500 vert had a glass back window, but the 62 Sunliner didn't have one------but, them are Farts, after-all. | ||
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