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ram300
Posted 2009-11-20 12:19 AM (#197491)
Subject: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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The cast iron torqueflite in my '58 300D likes to shift by itself into reverse these days when sitting idling in neutral which can get kind of scary when you're OUTSIDE the car ! I'm guessing it needs a cable adjustment? It is a later '61 trans in the car with the wheel aduster on the trans end.

The other interesting thing it does, is it will NOT go back diectly into neutral from reverse (stays in reverse when you hit the neutral button), you have to go from reverse to drive and then into neutral....I hope I'm making sense here. All other gears engage and disengage fine.

Anyway I'm hoping it's just an adjustment rather than a problem with using the later trans/cable on the earlier '57-8 pushbutton unit.

Anybody else out there have or had a possessed trans.........
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59CRL
Posted 2009-11-20 6:15 AM (#197522 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: RE: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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Strange, could be the cable adjustment is out......go here for servicing and adjusting your transmission

http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Lit/Master/129/cover.htm

Edited by 59CRL 2009-11-20 6:17 AM
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ToMopar
Posted 2017-03-30 6:11 AM (#536997 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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I want to adjust my cable and found this thread. Because my pushbutton interprets my gear selection by itself.
So I read the master repair very attentive, but they just wrote a few words for the adjustment. Is it really so simple??





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finsruskw
Posted 2017-03-30 7:12 AM (#537002 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!


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You will find the adjustment procedure for the later model T/F's w/the adjustment wheel in the 60-64 FSM's
I believe the clip you posted is for an earlier trans w/o the adjuster wheel.
And yes, the adjustment procedure w/the wheel type really is that simple.
Sounds like you need to start from scratch starting with throttle and accelerator linkage adjustments as well.
Why was the trans swapped out for a later model?
Because of this, you may have some wrong parts/cable/linkage that may be part of the issues you ae having as well.
What was the source of the cable you are using? May be too long, too short??
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ToMopar
Posted 2017-03-30 7:41 AM (#537007 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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Thanks Dave for the answer. Yes my trans don't have such a adjustment wheel.
The trans was rebuild by an order of previous owner. I bought the car as a broken restoration and all the parts I have are from the previous owner, no idea if the parts was on car when its new.
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wizard
Posted 2017-03-30 12:49 PM (#537024 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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When in doubt, pull the pan and check that the ball goes in the detents for every gear.
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Shep
Posted 2017-03-30 1:51 PM (#537030 - in reply to #537024)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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Yup. Best way, no guess work.
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60 dart
Posted 2017-03-30 3:32 PM (#537034 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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you also might want to check your button box to assure all is moving smoothly/correctly . sometimes they get sticky------------------------------------------later
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57chizler
Posted 2017-03-31 5:28 PM (#537113 - in reply to #537024)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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wizard - 2017-03-30 9:49 AM

When in doubt, pull the pan and check that the ball goes in the detents for every gear.


Easier yet, pull the NSS and make sure the contact arm is dead center in the hole with the shifter in Neutral.
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wizard
Posted 2017-04-01 5:20 AM (#537138 - in reply to #537113)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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Yes, presuming that the crescent is totally ok this will work as well and save a pan gasket. But I have seen a few crescents that did not centered the ball in all positions. In that situation one must make a compromise.


57chizler - 2017-03-31 11:28 PM

wizard - 2017-03-30 9:49 AM

When in doubt, pull the pan and check that the ball goes in the detents for every gear.


Easier yet, pull the NSS and make sure the contact arm is dead center in the hole with the shifter in Neutral.
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ToMopar
Posted 2017-04-02 4:55 AM (#537196 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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NSS = Neutral Safety Switch ?
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wizard
Posted 2017-04-02 5:26 AM (#537199 - in reply to #197491)
Subject: Re: Torueflite that's too automatic!



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Yep Tom, be sure to drain 2-3 liters of fluid before you pull the NSS. Most convenient with a suction pump through the filler tube
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