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56D500boy
Posted 2017-04-23 4:50 PM (#538696 - in reply to #538693)
Subject: RE: Cruisin's cool but who goes RACIN!?!?!?!



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hemidave - 2017-04-23 4:00 PM
A Nascar history buff thought that since the wagon has a NASCAR logo on the door, it was most likely a track vehicle used to keep the field of cars in place during only the "warm-up" laps.


That would make complete sense. Way more sense than trying to figure out why somebody was racing in a Dodge wagon. I know they were popular in the 1960's as drag cars because of the extra weight over the rear wheels for traction but as a roundy-roundy turn left car, it would make for some interesting (scary) polar moment of inertia situations.

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hemidave
Posted 2017-04-25 10:11 AM (#538841 - in reply to #178862)
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Posted 2017-05-08 8:42 AM (#539681 - in reply to #178862)
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hemidave
Posted 2017-05-09 8:17 AM (#539754 - in reply to #178862)
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hemidave
Posted 2017-05-16 8:31 AM (#540134 - in reply to #178862)
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Petty on the track



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56D500boy
Posted 2017-05-16 10:39 AM (#540140 - in reply to #540134)
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hemidave - 2017-05-16 8:31 AM
Petty on the track


Which resulted in this tribute clone:

http://www.car-revs-daily.com/2015/01/27/1960-plymouth-fury-nascar/

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hemidave
Posted 2017-05-28 6:02 AM (#541029 - in reply to #178862)
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hemidave
Posted 2017-10-12 8:27 AM (#550203 - in reply to #178862)
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hemidave
Posted 2017-11-26 8:21 AM (#553149 - in reply to #178862)
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-26 11:22 AM (#553165 - in reply to #553149)
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hemidave - 2017-11-26 8:21 AM
'56 Dodge


Not just any 56 Dodge, a Coronet 2dr D500. If I had to guess, it would have the 2 four bbl carbs and a 3 spd manual trans, i.e. this baby is going racin'.

The photos also confirm how the wheels were painted at the factory, i.e. white rims and grey centers.





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Sonoramic60
Posted 2017-11-26 1:03 PM (#553176 - in reply to #553165)
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Lads --
This '56 may have started out as a D-500, but at the stage of the game when the pic was taken, the drag class it was in was C Gas (note the "C/G" on the left rear window). The NHRA Gas classes were for cars that had engine or trans modification that differed from NHRA approved stock configuration (these generally followed the published AMA specs). There were five gas classes that were classified according to total car weight divided by total engine displacement cubic inches. Designations were A/G, B/G, C/G, D/G or E/G and "gas" meant the use of pump gas, not "nitro," AVGAS, or alcohol. The use of a supercharger moved you up one class.
The designation breakdowns were as follows:
A/G – 0 to 8.99 pounds per cubic inch
B/G – 9.00 to 10.99 pounds per cubic inch
C/G – 11.00 to 12.99 pounds per cubic inch
D/G – 13.00 to 13.99 pounds per cubic inch
E/G – 14.00 or more pounds per cubic inch
The car does seem to have slicks on it which in themselves in those days would take it out of a stock class.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-26 8:13 PM (#553199 - in reply to #178862)
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Joe: Thanks for the info. My 1956 Dodge AMA sheets have the D63 D-500 at 3605 lbs. At 315 cu. in. that makes for 11.44 lbs per cubic inch. Right in the C/Gas range, as per the photo. Funny that NHRA wouldn't say anything about single 4 bbl versus 2 x 4 bbls.

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Sonoramic60
Posted 2017-11-26 10:37 PM (#553209 - in reply to #553199)
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The thing that drove the NHRA, AHRA, USAC, and even NASCAR was the AMA specs. Any fuel induction system posted therein was acceptable, witness the 2X4V carbs on the C300s and 300Bs. In 1957, NASCAR adopted a harder line, allowing only a single four-barrel, at most, while Chevy could compete in the stock classes with 2X4V carbs and even fuel injection; T-Birds could have the Paxton supercharger option.
That Dodge might have had some non-AMA internal parts or even racing slicks rather street tires which might have put it in with the Gassers. As a matter of interest, "cheater slicks" which I recall being really slicks with some rather dubious grooves running longitudanally on the edges of the tires kinda emerged in the '60s. I know full slicks were verbotten for the stock classes at the strips I frequented in 1960 and 1961.
Not to say there weren't some interesting things done back then. For example, Al Eckstrand had the Chrysler shop fashion him his "Fury 300", a '59 Sport Fury with a 300E 380 HP/413. I understand that the guys even made the Sport Fury roundels into "Fury 300" types, plus he tried to pawn off some documentation that was truly a Chrysler product, but it didn't work and he went into a gas class. I was also told by a Ramcharger that a few RB-383s got into '60 Darts and Plymouths and were passed by the racing body inspectors, but I haven't been able to substantiate that elsewhere.
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hemidave
Posted 2017-12-17 1:44 PM (#554487 - in reply to #178862)
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