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AceS
Posted 2019-07-04 11:15 PM (#584445 - in reply to #178862)
Subject: RE: Cruisin's cool but who goes RACIN!?!?!?!



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Posted 2019-07-05 9:17 AM (#584457 - in reply to #584445)
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Posted 2019-07-06 7:55 AM (#584490 - in reply to #584457)
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Wassamatta, Sid?
Don't you like what I did to the Big-Tailed Beast?
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Posted 2019-07-06 10:22 AM (#584493 - in reply to #178862)
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Location: northern germany		No Joe, you wouldn't have done the sacrilege of destroying these beautiful shaped 60 wheel openings. Terrible, just terrible. Poor car, even a Fury. The time and work I have invested to preserve and reconstruct these fantastic shapes....., takes a minute to "create" this^ ***** done by a ***** chimp. Destroying is always so much easier.
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Posted 2019-07-06 12:08 PM (#584495 - in reply to #584493)
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Location: WA/USA		It was 1969. These cars were getting scrapped left and right for the smallest reasons or just because they were old and outdated.

This one Fury got used to its full possibilities. A 60 Fury was track champ! You don't cry about it. YOU REVEL IN IT!
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Posted 2019-07-06 12:25 PM (#584496 - in reply to #584495)
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I will probably regret this ! Here is a trailer from a not very well know 70 B movie stock car movie. (Fury on wheels) .
There is a 60 2dr belvdere at 1.45 to 1.55 . You have to consider the time that this was made. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=fury+on+wheels+1971&&view=detai...

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Apollo 61
Posted 2019-07-06 12:35 PM (#584497 - in reply to #584496)
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1960fury
Posted 2019-07-07 8:00 AM (#584512 - in reply to #584495)
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It was 1969. These cars were getting scrapped left and right for the smallest reasons or just because they were old and outdated.

This one Fury got used to its full possibilities. A 60 Fury was track champ! You don't cry about it. YOU REVEL IN IT!


Weird kind of "logic". According to that "logic" no car survived. Really? Otherwise how can you know this one wouldn't have been one of these that survived?
It was scrapped, if it was done on the race track or junk yard doesn't matter or if it was "track champ" on some unknown, outback, hillbilly dirt "race track". If you think it was cool that it was scrapped, well......
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Sonoramic60
Posted 2019-07-07 6:26 PM (#584532 - in reply to #584512)
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Actually, that wasn't too bad a fate for that old Plymmer. While the '60s weren't as bad rust buckets as their predecessors, they still were pretty much subject to decay, especially those in damp climates. But if they were to get into the hands of guys like me, decay became downright abuse. That first '60 Fury of mine was virtually a derelict when I traded it in 1964. Among other things:
- The wheel covers were long gone as I replaced them with "baby moons" in about a year or so.
- That original "high performance" differential with 2.93 gears was totally inadequate for the drag strip, so I put 4.10s in there.
- I needed the extra breathing afforded by tube steel exhaust headers, so I got a set of Hedman Hedders for the Beast. Of course, competition headers even as primitive as those eliminated the heat riser (ever think of driving in below zero weather without one?).
- Very high RPMs in strip (or street) competition played havoc with the freeze plugs and I forget how many I replaced (it was fun limping home with a shop rag stuffed in the block). Never mind subsequent leaks.
- Those high RPMs also poised a problem pumping water through the heater core. A rather attractive girl sure did not like what that antifreeze did to her nylons when the core let go.
- Punching it off the line and high RPM shifts weren't very good on either the TorqueFlite or the Sure Grip, so both were starting to sound suspicious.
- Then, of course, there was the problem with the ram-induction system which was the subject of downright hatred by the mechanics in that dealer's shop. I had traded it for a special order '65 Sport Fury (426-S/4-speed) with heavy-duty police suspension and oversize brakes. Unfortunately, the assembly line put standard size rims on the oversize brake drums which caused them to distort and chatter. On the first trip to the dealer to rectify this problem, the shop foreman made a special effort to tell me, "Ya know, those old manifolds of yours sure made a nice clang when the hit the bottom of the trash can."
The car didn't appear on the dealer's used car lot and I never did see it once I left it to take possession of the '65 on November 21, 1964. I was kinda afraid to ask about it.
So, I really think that racer went out better than my old car. In fact, it calls to mind the poem "Old Ironsides," by Oliver Wendell Holmes when the ship was in danger of being scrapped:

". . . The harpies of the shore shall pluck the eagle of the sea!"
Oh, better that her shattered hull should sink beneath the wave
Her thunders shook the mighty deep and there should be her grave.
Nail to the mast her holy flag, set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms, the lightning and the gale!"

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1960fury
Posted 2019-07-08 3:37 PM (#584568 - in reply to #584532)
Subject: Re: Cruisin's cool but who goes RACIN!?!?!?!



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Location: northern germany		Joe, my car had and still has its share in high rpm use, since I bought it as a red blooded kid and I didn't change much, that is 31 years of "abuse" and I can't confirm your experience. These cars are the most reliable man-made machines on planet earth.

What you, and I, did is just natural for a healthy kid and I wouldn't call it abuse. I ran it hard but treated it good. Those who can resist the sound of a roaring V8, the urge to accelerate to feel the speed, missed the power and freedom these machines deliver and never lived. And there is a big difference, the drivetrain can be rebuild again and again, if you destroy the unibody, the car is doomed. I don't think you deliberately did that, or you are not the "Joe" that I thought you are

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Sonoramic60
Posted 2019-07-09 6:54 PM (#584635 - in reply to #584568)
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I still like the idea of that No. 43 going down fighting. By 1969, I'm sure that old Big-Tailed Beast of mine had been turned into a Honda or paperclips. Anyone formally racing a '60 has my full support. Beats the heck out of those trailer queen restorations or clone ("tribute") ram cars.
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AceS
Posted 2019-07-16 11:28 PM (#584912 - in reply to #584512)
Subject: Re: Cruisin's cool but who goes RACIN!?!?!?!



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1960fury - 2019-07-06 5:00 PM

AceS - 2019-07-06 12:08 PM

It was 1969. These cars were getting scrapped left and right for the smallest reasons or just because they were old and outdated.

This one Fury got used to its full possibilities. A 60 Fury was track champ! You don't cry about it. YOU REVEL IN IT!


Weird kind of "logic". According to that "logic" no car survived. Really? Otherwise how can you know this one wouldn't have been one of these that survived?
It was scrapped, if it was done on the race track or junk yard doesn't matter or if it was "track champ" on some unknown, outback, hillbilly dirt "race track". If you think it was cool that it was scrapped, well......


It is what it is. We can't go back 50 years and save it. Pretty simple, as was more eloquently stated than me "I would rather have seen it go down fighting". Yes it is cool.

Also short track oval racing in small town America is mostly a family oriented sport. Race teams are usually formed around family, friends, and co-workers and the grandstands are full of families with kids. I don't believe the friendly folks of Lewiston would appreciate your uninformed comments, and neither do I.
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Apollo 61
Posted 2019-08-28 8:35 PM (#586719 - in reply to #584912)
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Abandoned 60 Plymouth track car.

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RDP
Posted 2020-10-20 1:40 PM (#604690 - in reply to #178862)
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56D500boy
Posted 2021-03-17 3:56 PM (#610039 - in reply to #604690)
Subject: Daytona Beach 1956 Speed Trials and 56 Dodges



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Here are some photos of 56 Dodges at the February 1956 Daytona Beach Speed Trials.

First one shows some random GM product blocking the view of a 56 Fury and the 56 Dodge NASCAR emergency wagon.

The next shows Danny Eames taking off in a 56 Coronet D500 (probably with the new 2 x 4 bbl goodies) on a speed run.

"UNITED STATES - FEBRUARY 28: Daytona Beach Speed Week - 1956. Dodge test driver Danny Eames in a new 500-D set class flying mile record of 130 mph and a standing mile record of 81 mph. Power rating of 315-cubic inch engine is 295 horsepower. (Photo by Wally Parks)

The last one shows Danny Eames completing a speed run (a flying mile)

"A official waves the checkered flag as driver Danny Eames wins the 'Flying Mile' stock car race in a Dodge D-500 on the beach at Daytona Speedway, Daytona Beach, Florida, 1956."

Tom McCahill wrote about these events and said:

"The big events of the Speed Trials were the U. S. Production Car Flying and Standing Miles. The overall winner of the Flying Mile, two-way average, was Tim Flock driving a 300B Chrysler for a new record at an average speed of 139.373. Second in overall standing was Danny Eames driving a ’56 Dodge 500 at an average speed of 130.577."

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"For the Mechanix Illustrated Acceleration Trophies, one mile from a standing start, Danny Eames’ 1956 Dodge 500 just beat out Brewster Shaw in a Chrysler 300B when he ran the distance at an average speed of 81.786 against Shaw’s time of 81.762."

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Posted 2021-03-17 5:21 PM (#610048 - in reply to #178862)
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Location: So. Cal		Looks like the '56 Fury got trounced by a Coronet sedan.

Why would the Indy 500 cars be in Barstow, CA? And why does it have Pasadena on it's door? Apparently the DeSoto & Plymouth are from Torrance, CA. That El Rancho, Barstow motel is still standing.

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Posted 2021-03-18 12:23 PM (#610085 - in reply to #178862)
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Location: Alaska		Nathan, if you read the details of this contest the Fury was doing very well but had a problem on the return leg of the race. The gas cap was not venting properly and the engine was starving for fuel so it's time in the flying mile suffered, otherwise IIRC it would have been very close to the Dodge time. It did have the dual 4 setup on it so it wasn't quite stock.
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Posted 2021-03-18 12:28 PM (#610086 - in reply to #610039)
Subject: More 56 Dodge D500s from Daytona Feb. 1956



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56D500boy
Posted 2021-04-03 4:53 PM (#610670 - in reply to #610086)
Subject: Lee Petty 1955 Dodge Coronet V8



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NORTH WILKESBORO, NC - OCTOBER 23, 1955: The field gets the one lap to go signal prior to the start of a NASCAR Cup race at North Wilkesboro Speedway. Eventual winner Buck Baker in a Ford (No. 87) has the pole position, with Herb Thomas in a Chevrolet on the outside of row one. Marvin Panch is driving Ford No. 98, while Lee Petty in his Dodge No. 42 would finish second behind Baker.

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Viper Guy
Posted 2021-04-04 9:28 AM (#610686 - in reply to #178862)
Subject: Re: Cruisin's cool but who goes RACIN!?!?!?!



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Posted 2021-04-05 1:53 AM (#610698 - in reply to #610686)
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We often went to watch the races. It was exciting to watch normal, every-
-day cars race like this. I lost all interest when they became something
else.

How did anyone in a 50's Ford win a race ? I have owned and driven
these cars ! Even in fine tune, they are SLUGS !
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56D500boy
Posted 2021-04-05 2:29 AM (#610699 - in reply to #610698)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2021-04-04 10:53 PM How did anyone in a 50's Ford win a race ? I have owned and driven
these cars ! Even in fine tune, they are SLUGS !


1955 Fords won 2 of 45 NASCAR races (Chryslers won 27)
1956 Fords won 14 of 56 NASCAR races (Chrysers won 22)

1957 .....sorry. I fell asleep. Who cares? Kiekhaefer was out.

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Posted 2021-10-20 8:08 PM (#616071 - in reply to #610699)
Subject: Occoneechee (Orange/Hillsboro): The "lost" NASCAR track and a 56 Dodge



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I was looking for something else and bumped into a video about the "lost" Occoneechee Speedway (aka "Orange Speedway") a 0.9 mile dirt track near Hillsborough NC which was Bill France's second NASCAR track. It was used from 1949 to 1968 (Richard Petty won the last ever race at the track). In the video, there are images of a 56 Dodge 2dr Coronet race car that is now sitting there, where the track once was. I then set about trying to find more info about the car and the racetrack. I didn't exactly find what I wanted but I did find some interesting info that I thought that I would share:

The speedway:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occoneechee_Speedway

Race results from Race 56-17 in which two Kiekhaefer Chrysler 300Cs came first and second and Lee Petty in No. 42 56 Dodge (probably a D500-1) came 3rd:

https://www.racing-reference.info/race-results/1956-17/W/

Race results from Race 56-50 in which two Kiekhaefer Chrysler 300Cs came second and third and Lee Petty in No. 42 56 Dodge came 12th after breaking an "A frame".

https://www.racing-reference.info/race-results/1956-50/W/

All the NASCAR Occoneechee stats:

https://www.racing-reference.info/tracks/Occoneechee_Speedway/

The video that got me going on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_bbjeAf3RA

The abandoned 56 Dodge Coronet (most likely *NOT* a NASCAR car):






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Posted 2022-02-23 5:32 PM (#619737 - in reply to #616071)
Subject: 56 300B racing at Infineon



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This video caught my eye. Now I want to know more about the car and, in particular, where the finned brake drums came from.

Any leads, references, etc. will be greatly appreciated

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yWMIcra40s

Car and Brakes (note on the last photo that hole in the spindle is where the steering arm goes):



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Posted 2022-02-23 5:50 PM (#619738 - in reply to #619737)
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They aren't just modified originals.

I would suggest that the drums are a race car item, probably from NASCAR in the early to mid-sixties.

Great video, he was really hounding it along. I'll be sharing that with others!
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Posted 2022-07-02 9:47 PM (#622554 - in reply to #584912)
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Posted 2022-07-10 11:36 AM (#622784 - in reply to #178862)
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Posted 2022-08-12 10:20 PM (#623527 - in reply to #178862)
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-12-23 6:16 PM (#626518 - in reply to #623527)
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A video about the very first Dayton 500 at the paved tri-oval in February 1959. Lee Petty eventually wins (but in an Olds )

There are Forward Look cars in the video but they do not figure prominently.

Still, I know I learned something (or two):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwjLQKX4Po0

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56D500boy
Posted 2024-01-31 11:13 AM (#633577 - in reply to #626518)
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Joe Lee Johnson driving in this 56 Dodge D500 No. 310 owned by S.T. Campbell of the Campbell Oil Company.

Note that this was the 1957 Daytona race and the car is a single 4bbl 260 hp D500, not a 2 x 4bbl 276 hp D500-1. He came in 33rd.

https://www.driveraverages.com/nascar/race.php?sked_id=1957004



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