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d500neil

Posted 2015-05-24 10:52 PM (#479297 - in reply to #479251)
Subject: Re: What did you do to your FL car today?

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You might want to re-position your radiator hose's upper "Corben Clip's" connection a little-more nearer to the thermostat, to increase
the sealing/contact area of that hose, against/to the T-stat housing.

A couple months ago, I replaced my car's upper radiator hose "just because" it was getting old(er), and because the existing upper
radiator hose appeared to have been originally-cut about 1/4" - 1/2" too short, because the upper hose was tending to leak coolant
from the bottom-area of its upper-hose connection.

On this site, I was told that the 'best' upper radiator hose to use is : NAPA 7240

7240 is WAY...too long, but its middle-section can be cut to fit, well, between the radiator and the T-stat.

So...bought-and-cut and installed 7240, only to find that its connection to the T-stat housing (and which
connection surface I DID clean-up/prep, ahead of 'time'...)

...only to discover that the interior, and the general over-all condition of that 'old' hose was....FINE,
but, what frosts my cake...is that the new hose leaks, much as the old hose had done.

The existing (-old) Corben Clamp appears, still, to maintain a very tight grip against the T-stat neck....but, since its connection
is still leaking/weepng, it appears that I'll need to replace that Corben Clamp in the near future.

UNLESS...

there is a commercial 'ointment' that I can apply to the T-stat's neck, that will seal its connection to/with the upper hose's connection to it???

I'd rather try applying a sealant to the upper radiator connection, than finding/buying another Corben clamp.

DOES anyone have a spare-parts upper radiator hose clamp that they could sell to me???

[I guess that could try moving-relocating the Corben clamp's connection to/with the radiator hose, but, the fact that both 'hoses' leak similarly indicates that the leakage source may reside with the T-stat housing's neck
configuration.....which goes 'back' to the application of some sort of liquid sealing agent, to the
T-stat.]

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LD3 Greg

Posted 2015-05-24 11:19 PM (#479299 - in reply to #479297)
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Neil, I'll check my stock tomorrow. I have all kinds of "Corbin" clamps left over. There, I put a note on my booze box to remind me!!

Greg

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Posted 2015-05-24 11:33 PM (#479301 - in reply to #479299)
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In case you are wondering, my old booze box is rather respectable!!

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d500neil

Posted 2015-05-25 5:56 AM (#479314 - in reply to #165059)
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I dunno; can't see nothing but a (former-?) wine bottle, there!

THANKS!

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Posted 2015-05-25 12:53 PM (#479349 - in reply to #165059)
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Is your t-stat housing pitted ? This is usually the cause of leakage. DeSoto lives !!!

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Posted 2015-05-25 2:49 PM (#479362 - in reply to #165059)
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Permatex #2

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Posted 2015-05-25 4:21 PM (#479373 - in reply to #165059)
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I use GM Teflon PTFE for areas like this with coolant. But perhaps the clamp isn't squeezing properly, and or pits. I had the same concern on my daily driver several years ago and use it and it worked.

d500neil

Posted 2015-05-25 4:35 PM (#479376 - in reply to #479373)
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Permatex #2 sounds good...but what is Teflon PTFE?

The Permatex would be applied all-around the inside of the radiator hose (and, probably helps to slide
the end of the hose over the T-stat housing, too?

fenix

Posted 2015-05-25 5:10 PM (#479379 - in reply to #165059)
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Not a damm thing, spent the day in several cemetery's stickin' ol' glory in true patriot's final resting places, after all it is their day, and because of them i have the privilege and honor of stickin' ol' glory in sovereign American soil.
And some of these countries can stick it also.

France, 1945
Norway (?)
Japan, 1946
Philippines, 1946
Greece, 1946
Italy, 1947
Belgium - ?
Netherlands, 1945 (reinstated constitution after WWII?)
Republic of China (Taiwan) (year ?)
Denmark, 1953 (?)
Republic of [South] Korea, 1948
Federal Republic of Germany, 1949
Hawaii, 1959 (admission to USA as 50th state)
Guam, 1970
American Samoa, 1978 (elected Governor)
Grenada, 1984
Republic of Poland, 1989
German Democratic Republic (East Germany), 1990
Republic of Hungary, 1990
Republic of Bulgaria, 1991
Kuwait, 1991
Iraqi Kurdistan, 1991 (date?)
Lithuania, 1992
Czech Republic, 1992
Republic of Slovakia, 1992
Latvia, 1994
Kosovo, 2000
Afghanistan, 2001

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Posted 2015-05-25 5:25 PM (#479380 - in reply to #479376)
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d500neil - 2015-05-25 4:35 PM

Permatex #2 sounds good...but what is Teflon PTFE?

The Permatex would be applied all-around the inside of the radiator hose (and, probably helps to slide
the end of the hose over the T-stat housing, too?

Yeah, put it there on the hose. Looks like this.

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Posted 2015-05-25 7:00 PM (#479387 - in reply to #479299)
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LD3 Greg - 2015-05-24 11:19 PM

Neil, I'll check my stock tomorrow. I have all kinds of "Corbin" clamps left over. There, I put a note on my booze box to remind me!!

Greg

My upper rad hose is 1 7/8" in OD. The clamps I have are approx. 1 1/2" at rest and I can't squeeze them to the required size. Close, but they are too small.

Greg

d500neil

Posted 2015-05-25 8:32 PM (#479394 - in reply to #165059)
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Well, looks like Permatex to the rescue.

It gets 'smeared' onto the hose's inner surface-connection with the Thermostat housing.

THANKS!

60crossram

Posted 2015-05-30 10:30 PM (#479900 - in reply to #165059)
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I'm hopeing to have her running tomorrow. Today I put on the manifolds. Plug wires. Speedo cable. E-brake asy. Driveshaft. So close. There is always so many little things that need detailing. I have a really good muffler shop that is waiting to put duals on her. If anyone has a 60-61 air cleaner asy I am very interested in buying it from you. Chrysler lives !!!

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Posted 2015-05-31 4:54 PM (#479977 - in reply to #165059)
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Appointed the wagon for a week of daily driver duty while my normal daily '73 Dart is in the garage for some sorely needed rust repairs.

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Posted 2015-05-31 7:10 PM (#479986 - in reply to #479977)
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Worked on the motor, trying to keep it running for the break in, the new starter started acting up yesterday and was making a hell of a noise, didn't want to mess up the flywheel so called it a day, today we dropped the left header and exhaust, removed the starter, i had another new one here and we compared the bendix movement and determined the starter wasn't extending far enough to engage the flywheel correctly, the new starter solved that problem. I could get the motor to run, but only by priming and filling the fuel bowl, today we took the line loose and had no gas past the regulator, next we filled a container with gas and it sucked some into the pump, but still no gas,i'm thinking bad regulator, removed the input line to the regulator, nothing, went a got a new fuel pump, fixed the problem, tomorrow, re-install the exhaust, and try to break the motor in. Gotta admit the motor sounds pretty good for a ballpark dial in, haven't set the timing or played with the jetting, and the first motor i've built in many moons. The way things are going, i may be cruising by Christmas, and i mean Christmas this year.

60crossram

Posted 2015-06-06 8:38 PM (#480591 - in reply to #165059)
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Finally got the engine and all the hook ups and detailing done. Fired her up and broke the cam in for 25 minutes. Sounds strong and throaty. A few more details and I'll have her on the road. Chrysler lives !!!

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Posted 2015-06-13 3:39 PM (#481371 - in reply to #480591)
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60crossram - 2015-06-06 8:38 PM

Finally got the engine and all the hook ups and detailing done. Fired her up and broke the cam in for 25 minutes. Sounds strong and throaty. A few more details and I'll have her on the road. Chrysler lives !!!

Very nice work, I like it.

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Posted 2015-06-13 3:40 PM (#481372 - in reply to #481371)
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Many people here make their nice cars better, good to see ..
The warmest day of the year (Sweden), take the opportunity to change places with the cars. Got help from friends. Heavy pulling Buick cradle of gravel. And had time to install the luggage light (bought it from Big M) and start with luggage pages that I purchased.

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Posted 2015-06-13 3:51 PM (#481373 - in reply to #481372)
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Joakim, your Windsor is such a wonderful car! Beautiful!

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Posted 2015-06-13 3:55 PM (#481376 - in reply to #481373)
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christine-lover - 2015-06-13 3:51 PM

Joakim, your Windsor is such a wonderful car! Beautiful!

Thanks Matt.

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Posted 2015-06-13 4:50 PM (#481379 - in reply to #165059)
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Aah, you should'nt have told Jocke that his car is nice - Now he will be impossible to deal with

We all know that his car is nice and well done, but don't tell him that......................

60crossram

Posted 2015-06-13 8:01 PM (#481395 - in reply to #165059)
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New dual exhaust with flow master mufflers. Sound good but not loud. I'm still looking for a correct year air cleaner. I've been out cruising her today, she's running very nice. I had to bypass the heater core because it started to leak. I swear you can drive something and never do anything to it, but the second you start fixing things everything else starts failing. It's so nice to cruise around in a forward look car again, something about them they just time warp you back to pastel and fin dreamland.

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Posted 2015-06-18 3:10 PM (#481939 - in reply to #165059)
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Wow super nice 61 STW. Good work.

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Posted 2015-06-18 3:13 PM (#481940 - in reply to #481395)
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Had not the original inside cobv moulding (looted) I have 2dr / ht moldings (not correct to a conv). When I was in the United States of Bo MalleFors I ordered 2st conv strips as they did to me. Got them in the spring. Was not entirely happy job considering the price, Took my strips and cut and stitch on. It was good.

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Posted 2015-06-18 3:14 PM (#481941 - in reply to #481939)
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I had to bypass the heater core because it started to leak. I swear you can drive something and never do anything to it, but the second you start fixing things everything else starts failing.

Throw some stop-leak into your radiator, and it will probably cure the heater core leak. It did on mine, and it's been 7 years now.

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Posted 2015-06-18 4:16 PM (#481946 - in reply to #481940)
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Windsor59 - 2015-06-18 9:13 PM

Had not the original inside cobv moulding (looted) I have 2dr / ht moldings (not correct to a conv). When I was in the United States of Bo MalleFors I ordered 2st conv strips as they did to me. Got them in the spring. Was not entirely happy job considering the price, Took my strips and cut and stitch on. It was good.

Looks really nice now Jocke - all those special parts for the convertibles can kill even the thickest wallet!!!

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Posted 2015-06-18 4:27 PM (#481951 - in reply to #481946)
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Thanks Sven, and have a nice midsummer

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Posted 2015-06-19 12:10 PM (#482032 - in reply to #165059)
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I drove the '59 convert 50 miles over to the upholsterer in Marysville, where they are installing the convertible top. Hopefully they don't keep it too long. The car seemed to run out good on the highway.

---John

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Posted 2015-06-19 2:27 PM (#482041 - in reply to #482032)
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big m - 2015-06-19 12:10 PM

I drove the '59 convert 50 miles over to the upholsterer in Marysville, where they are installing the convertible top. Hopefully they don't keep it too long. The car seemed to run out good on the highway.

---John

Hi John
Nice ( New top on) What color and vinyl or canvas ?

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Posted 2015-06-19 2:27 PM (#482042 - in reply to #482032)
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Hi John
Nice ( New top on) What color and vinyl or canvas ?

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Posted 2015-06-19 5:22 PM (#482053 - in reply to #482042)
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Windsor59 - 2015-06-19 11:27 AM

Hi John
Nice ( New top on) What color and vinyl or canvas ?

The top will be vinyl, and black, Joakim.

60crossram

Posted 2015-06-20 4:40 PM (#482129 - in reply to #165059)
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I put the wagon in the bountiful coats for kids car show today. Nice show. Its the only forward look car here obviously. There were quite a few mopar muscle cars here. I had one guy tell about a 58 Plymouth 2 door Belvedere with the sport tone sitting, he even had pictures on his phone of it. I'll have to go hunt it down. Chrysler lives !!!

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Posted 2015-06-22 12:08 AM (#482308 - in reply to #165059)
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Good evening,

I just returned from a 300 mile round trip driving my '59 DeSoto Firesweep 4 door sedan to the Show-Me Mopars car show in Columbia, MO. I was entered in the antique class from 1914 to 1961 model year of any "stock" MoPar. I wound up with first place with a judged score of 96.1 out of 100. And the best part is my DeSoto beat out a gorgeous 1958 Dodge Coronet D500 2 door HT that is a trailer queen. Gosh, that made my day - winning over an unlicensed non driven trailer queen! Just goes to show that it boils down to what others think of your car that makes the difference.

"It's delightful, it's delovely, it's DeSoto"

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Posted 2015-06-24 4:02 PM (#482651 - in reply to #165059)
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Put the original dealership tag back at its original location.

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Posted 2015-06-24 4:48 PM (#482657 - in reply to #165059)
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Another piece of the puzzle David - did you find it just now or was it in/on the car?

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Posted 2015-06-24 8:19 PM (#482681 - in reply to #482657)
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wizard - 2015-06-24 4:48 PM

Another piece of the puzzle David - did you find it just now or was it in/on the car?

It came with the car, but had not been reinstalled by the former owner when he painted the car. I like the original dealer tags so for me it had to go back where it belonged.

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Posted 2015-06-24 9:02 PM (#482688 - in reply to #165059)
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Quick wipe down of the dash to see what I have.

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Posted 2015-06-25 1:58 AM (#482714 - in reply to #482681)
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wizard - 2015-06-24 4:48 PM

Another piece of the puzzle David - did you find it just now or was it in/on the car?

It came with the car, but had not been reinstalled by the former owner when he painted the car. I like the original dealer tags so for me it had to go back where it belonged.

I would have mounted it to David, they're so cool and period correct - your car looks really good and there's always some improvement going on.

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Posted 2015-06-25 8:34 AM (#482727 - in reply to #482714)
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wizard - 2015-06-25 1:58 AM

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wizard - 2015-06-24 4:48 PM

Another piece of the puzzle David - did you find it just now or was it in/on the car?

It came with the car, but had not been reinstalled by the former owner when he painted the car. I like the original dealer tags so for me it had to go back where it belonged.

I would have mounted it to David, they're so cool and period correct - your car looks really good and there's always some improvement going on.

Thanks a lot!

Little by little, I am bringing this back to how it was when it was sold in 58. I actually did a lot more than the dealer tag on it yesterday, but that's the only part that really shows.

In a month or two, there will be a whole lot more to report, as the car will be getting ready for a repaint in its original Willow Green and Sunshine Yellow livery!

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Posted 2015-06-25 9:56 AM (#482733 - in reply to #482727)
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David -

It's great that you have a vintage photo of the dealership that sold your car. That's something I'd like to find for my 59 Dodge.

Interesting that on your Dodge, there is no long, thin aluminum moulding between the left and right taillights, like you would find on the 58 Plymouth Belvedere.

Ron

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Posted 2015-06-25 10:28 AM (#482734 - in reply to #482733)
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ronbo97 - 2015-06-25 9:56 AM

David -

It's great that you have a vintage photo of the dealership that sold your car. That's something I'd like to find for my 59 Dodge.

Interesting that on your Dodge, there is no long, thin aluminum moulding between the left and right taillights, like you would find on the 58 Plymouth Belvedere.

Ron

The car is a Plodge equivalent to the Plymouth Savoy, so it has the same moulding confirguration as a Savoy in every respect, including that lack of trim under the trunk.

I got the photo of the dealership by writing a request to some local archives in the town where the garage stood. The nice lady there had no difficulty finding a picture of it.

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Posted 2015-06-28 2:38 PM (#483030 - in reply to #165059)
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Nothing I am done with the block and air sanding , I even cleaned and polished the trimming. I learned my power brake booster needs to be rebuilt. I also need to remove the front bumper and passenger tail light and the 1 head light that is still there.

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Posted 2015-06-28 7:18 PM (#483051 - in reply to #165059)
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Still finding out what I have with this 57 DeSoto Sedan. Pulled the carpet out. Floors are solid... nothing too scary. I'll have some work for sure, but I don't see any metal needing replacement. So far so good. Trunk mat cleaned up nice.

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Posted 2015-06-29 12:25 AM (#483088 - in reply to #483051)
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And, you have a most excellent condition accelerator and brake pedal, too!

Their condition bodes well for the non-abusive prior usage/operation of your ride.

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Posted 2015-06-29 10:40 AM (#483115 - in reply to #165059)
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That trunk mat is in excellent shape!!!!!

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Posted 2015-06-30 12:13 AM (#483184 - in reply to #165059)
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Finally got brake lights working today. Had been struggling with them on and off for months. I changed the headlight switch, installed new bulbs, and today I got the brake light switch converted to a mechanical type mounted to the pedal.
Tomorrow, I get to figure out what I messed up in the process to make the instrument lights stop working.

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Posted 2015-06-30 5:47 PM (#483242 - in reply to #165059)
Subject: Re: What did you do to your FL car today?

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Got the dodge licensed, now its road legal

JT Vincent

Posted 2015-06-30 11:45 PM (#483275 - in reply to #165059)
Subject: Re: What did you do to your FL car today?

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Dave, in keeping with Neil's comment, I'd also note that your car's former owner apparently used two feet to drive-- one on brake, one on accelerator. An inadvisable practice, but it didn't seem to talk a toll on your ride.

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Posted 2015-07-01 12:04 AM (#483277 - in reply to #483275)
Subject: Re: What did you do to your FL car today?

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I have always driven like that and I'm sure it comes from learning to drive with a clutch & manual trans. But I have tried it both ways on an automatic and the 2 feet method seems quite a bit safer because you have less reaction time to brake. Your foot is already there, waiting to be used instead of having to come up off the accel pedal, stop, and go down to the brake. Much slower reaction time. In an emergency, your other foot can certainly come off the accelerator and help push on the brakes too, but the car doesn't have to wait for it to get there to begin stopping so I don't really see a downside.

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Posted 2015-07-01 1:54 AM (#483285 - in reply to #165059)
Subject: Re: What did you do to your FL car today?

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I always use both feet to drive an automatic - it's the natural thing to do and once you've learn it you won't have any problem switching between manual and automatic cars.

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