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Matthew Keij
Posted 2015-01-17 7:42 PM (#467902 - in reply to #467589)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-01-17 7:51 PM (#467903 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-01-17 8:00 PM (#467904 - in reply to #165059)
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Matthew Keij
Posted 2015-01-17 8:26 PM (#467906 - in reply to #165059)
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d500neil
Posted 2015-02-11 5:10 PM (#469875 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: bishop, ca		Well, today was a red-letter day for Horrie.

Decade(s) ago, read this mini-fix-it article, and realized that the annoying wind-leak-noise, due to the vent window's
loose-closure against the vent window frame's rubber surround gasket, was due to usage-warpage of the (-pot metal) lock-lever's pivot post.

The air-gap/wind noise is discernible by the front seat passenger (mostly) , when all the windows are 'up', so, the
annoyance is seasonally-related.

Well, tis the season for windows-up cruising, so decided to follow the directions, and (finally) FIX that wind leak
problem.

Rather than drill-out the lever-lock, and-install a steel pin into it (as described in the article) , decided, simply, to install a
small self-tapping screw into the lever-lock-body (which would provide for simple/easy fine-tuning of the extent of the
vent window's closure pressure.

And VOILA!

After 30+ years of custodianship, H.'s passenger side vent window no longer leaks air!

(And, if you look closely, you'll see my earlier effort to shim-shut the vent window (as per the fix-it article) , but, that extra layer [of Gary Goers'] vent window rubber-seal did not eliminate the wind-leak at the vent window.

And, BEST of all....this fix can be done with NO other labor operations being required onto the car body!










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Posted 2015-02-11 5:26 PM (#469878 - in reply to #165059)
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d500neil
Posted 2015-02-17 2:02 AM (#470252 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: bishop, ca		Went on a nice 60 mile mid-Winter cruise, up to/from Tom's Place, CA Resort/Restaurant, at 7K' elev.

No snow plows anywhere in sight.

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Posted 2015-02-17 5:31 AM (#470259 - in reply to #165059)
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i "bragged" (ie, went through the 'laundry list' of why i prefer Mopar and Studebaker over GM) about the Forward Look Era to the owner of a '66 'vette yesterday, does that count toward "what did you do to your FL car today?"...
had to be careful though since i'm working a short-term contract with GM at the moment...
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Posted 2015-02-21 6:01 PM (#470609 - in reply to #165059)
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Who is that handsome dude in the hat leaning on that mega-nice Dodge!?

Both looooooooookin' good!

Hope you had a nice drive; looks like fun!

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jboymechanic
Posted 2015-03-07 2:32 PM (#471910 - in reply to #470609)
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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-10 8:54 PM (#472180 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		I got the Newport Wagon out to go into the engine so I can see why it started running a bit rough and smoking a bit after a hard run on her last summer, plus I can reseal it and I may go through the trans at the same time. It still works good after 54 years and 35, 000 miles of pampered driving. Sure is a fun one to put around.



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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-12 12:41 AM (#472278 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		I pulled out the Trans and the engine tonight. Can't wait to pull them apart and check them out. Can you believe the exhaust system is still original and good. Another thing about this car that is unusual, when I had the dash speaker out it looked good so I put it back in, and it sounds just fine. Also the steering wheel has no cracks, but then again it sat in the chicken coop from 1975 til I got it, 35 years later. DeSoto (Chrysler) lives !!!



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Posted 2015-03-12 12:46 AM (#472279 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-03-12 3:11 PM (#472322 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-03-12 10:11 PM (#472347 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		Broken rocker. And the engine is not too happy inside. A good example of very low maintenance. I guess I'll be taking another route, Not sure what yet. You think your going to do a quick fix/repair, rarely happens that way. Chrysler lives !!!



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d500neil
Posted 2015-03-13 3:55 AM (#472361 - in reply to #165059)
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has realized the profit to be had, by the re-popping of the FWDLK-era headliner materials!!!!!



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Posted 2015-03-13 6:27 PM (#472400 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Dorset, England		60crossram, that is one heck of a lovely wagon you've got there.
Lucky you!
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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-13 8:53 PM (#472414 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		I'm thinking about dropping a 440 in it to really get this wagon a scootin. What do you all think ?
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60 Imp
Posted 2015-03-14 2:35 AM (#472444 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: North Australia		Jon, the Imperial engine bay is looking good. I like what you did with the mounting of the alt and AC compressor, similar to what I did on my own Imperial. I am looking forward to seeing your car completed, I have been watching your progress for a long time, and like your style.

60 crossram, in my opinion you should stick with your first plan and freshen the original motor and box. A rocker shaft should be easy enough to find. Have you surveyed the rest of the engine yet? My own 413/TF is a great power-plant and with some work yours will be too. Might not take too much money/time to get it back to top form. Plus, you can say it is the original if someone asks. Bloody nice wagon by the way.

Steve.

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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-14 10:31 PM (#472504 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		Yes, the engine is shot. I have never seen a ring ridge in the cylinders this bad before. There is even a ridge on the cam bearings. And the timing chain was a loosey-goosey. I'm just not prepared to do a complete rebuild on this 361 right now. The car is obviously a low mileage car (original exhaust system, dash speaker still soft and works great, brake pedal has very little wear, drivers door hinge has zero play up and down) so whoever owned it did almost no maintenance on the engine I'm guessing. It came from Colorado and was last licensed in 1977. It would be nice to know the history of her. I'm going to tear down a 383 from a 60 Adventurer that I have been storing for 10+ years. May go this route if it's fairly clean inside or the 69 webbed block 440 pavement pounder. Chrysler lives !!!
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Posted 2015-03-14 11:20 PM (#472512 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Michigan		That vehicle is really valuable original. It will only get more valuable if you keep it that way. I would say you spend some bucks on rebuilding that engine and tune it so it runs better than new but you can still call it the original engine. What ever you do, don't get rid of it.
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-03-15 7:59 PM (#472563 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-03-15 8:08 PM (#472565 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Montreal, Canada		What did I do today? Well I bought another FL car!

Funny how things happen sometimes: I now own two 1958 Dodge Regent two door hardtop!
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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-15 10:36 PM (#472570 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		Awesome David, what's the condition? Let's see some pictures. Is the Regent a Canadian model only ? I can't wait to start working on my 57 Plymouth 2 door plaza sedan. DeSoto, Chrysler, Plymouth lives !!!
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soiouz
Posted 2015-03-16 9:23 AM (#472580 - in reply to #472570)
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60crossram - 2015-03-15 10:36 PM

Awesome David, what's the condition? Let's see some pictures. Is the Regent a Canadian model only ? I can't wait to start working on my 57 Plymouth 2 door plaza sedan. DeSoto, Chrysler, Plymouth lives !!!



Yes, Regents are canadian equivalent to a Plymouth Savoy.

I don't have good pictures, but I'll take some when I pick it up in a couple of weeks. It is currently half disassembled so it looks like crap, but it is a solid, complete and actually running car!



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Posted 2015-03-16 2:50 PM (#472602 - in reply to #472347)
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60crossram - 2015-03-12 10:11 PM

Broken rocker. And the engine is not too happy inside. A good example of very low maintenance. I guess I'll be taking another route, Not sure what yet. You think your going to do a quick fix/repair, rarely happens that way. Chrysler lives !!!


is that a broken rocker SHAFT?! never seen anything like that before. how can this happen?
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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-16 8:08 PM (#472623 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		1960fury, The end rocker shaft bolt broke then it put stress on the shaft and broke it. The push rods were in the valley area. Luckily they didn't make it down to the crank/rods. 3 of the lifters came apart also and all their pieces were in the valley area and oil pan. Not sure if the valves are sticky which caused the bolt to break. I'm just going to set that engine aside for now and go another route because it needs everything. But I will keep it with the car for sure.
David, that looks like a solid Regent. And it's a Hardtop too. Cool !!!
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Posted 2015-03-16 8:13 PM (#472624 - in reply to #472623)
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60crossram - 2015-03-16 8:08 PM

1960fury, The end rocker shaft bolt broke then it put stress on the shaft and broke it. The push rods were in the valley area. Luckily they didn't make it down to the crank/rods. 3 of the lifters came apart also and all their pieces were in the valley area and oil pan. Not sure if the valves are sticky which caused the bolt to break. I'm just going to set that engine aside for now and go another route because it needs everything. But I will keep it with the car for sure.
David, that looks like a solid Regent. And it's a Hardtop too. Cool !!!



Yes It is a two door hardtop! I know of only five or six still in existence and I own two of them. Crazy!
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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-26 9:42 PM (#473532 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		We'll, I hope people don't get too upset, but the 61 Wagon is getting the 69 440 and 62 trans. I pulled the great shape original exhaust and hangers to save. And the original engine & trans will be resting in my shed for safe keeping. The 440 is at the machine shop getting a 30 over bore and a head job. It will have a Mopar performance purple shaft 440-6 grind cam and new everything. I will not damage anything on the car that can't be undone and the engine will be painted up to look original. I will even modify a period air cleaner. I just wanted this wagon to have some nuts. I'm building the 62 trans now. So maybe another 2-3 weeks she'll be driving again. Hoping to drive her to Mopars at the Strip next year. Thought about it long and hard and this is the route I chose. She'll be cool and will sound and run like she always wanted to. Chrysler lives !!!
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d500neil
Posted 2015-03-27 6:39 PM (#473605 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: bishop, ca		After many years of service, replaced the aftermarket crankshaft idler-pulley ( 3 1/2" diameter; Gates:7803-2083;
NAPA: 38038), which has a sealed bearing in it.

It had been making a sort of 'chirping' sound, which was the only extraneous noise
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Direct no-brainer/bolt-on item, but it does require the use of one 1/2" inside-diameter steel
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Posted 2015-03-27 8:03 PM (#473616 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Williams California		Nice warm day today, drove the '57 up into the Sierras to look at a collection of NOS Mopar parts and some late '40's, early '50's cars that were for sale, didn't make a deal on anything, but the car seemed to enjoy the trip.

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Posted 2015-03-27 8:55 PM (#473625 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		d500neil. You can just press out the bearing on those pulleys and just buy a sealed bearing for a few bucks, then you can keep the original pulley. Nice looking engine you have there.
I am building the 62 aluminum torqueflite this weekend. It's all cleaned, buffed and servo bores polished. Getting a complete reseal, clutches and both bands. After 50 years the material starts coming off. This is a one year trans if you guys don't know. Still has the push button and the rear drum e-brake. And it allows you to bolt it to a later big block. (Different crank flange). I'm kind of surprised no one has ever made a conversion torque converter. That's all you would need to bolt a modern engine to the old cast iron torqueflite.
I don't know if you guys are aware of these old transmissions ability to start you engine by coast starting them. They have a front pump and a rear pump. If you coast it down a hill or have someone pull you, your engine will crank over at about 20-25 mph. Try it sometime it's way cool.



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Posted 2015-03-27 9:42 PM (#473627 - in reply to #165059)
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By the way, the Poly 318 P-600 3X2 intake will work with the later factory air, the compressor, idler, brackets, pullys,alt, all came from a 66 Poly 318 Fury. There was some minor T-stat clearance issue's, but turning around a through bolt solved it.

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60crossram
Posted 2015-03-28 11:43 AM (#473666 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		Rear pump on the 62 aluminum torqueflite. The cast iron torqueflite has a similar rear pump. I not sure if the 2 speed trans has one. I just think it's way cool that if your battery goes dead, you can pull start your car. Buildings the trans this weekend while and a few other things to get ready for the engine. DeSoto lives.



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Posted 2015-03-28 7:39 PM (#473712 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Layton, Utah		Got the torqueflite built today other than doing a couple minor tweaks to the valve body. Whoever thought up automatic transmissions was either super smart or he was on acid. So cool how they work. Some of today's new trannys are 5, 6, 7 and 8 speeds, all electronic and solenoid activated. All the seals in this trans were getting hard and a couple of the clutches in the direct drum we're coming apart. The material was just coming off the steels in chunks. After so long they just need refreshing. It's getting both new bands also. Not worth having to go back into it again. Mopar or no car !!! If you don't do it, It don't get done.



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Chumley
Posted 2015-04-01 8:30 PM (#474121 - in reply to #165059)
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I got it registered and insured, and started driving around!

I put maybe 15 miles on it.

Nothing broke, but it's going to take awhile to get used to that clutch...

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Posted 2015-04-02 1:45 PM (#474168 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Massachusetts		Changed the engine oil and filter today. I have to say getting the cartridge type oil filter back on was a minor chore, trying to get the bolt lined up and threaded in while reaching around the center link, exhaust pipe, and torsion bar. But I endeavored to persevere, and got it on with only minor cursing.

The FSM calls for SAE 30, but also says that 20W-50 is OK to use, too. I have a half a drum of Cen-Pe-Co 15W-40 oil left over from my farming days, so I used that. I figure it's an old engine, I'll really only be running it in the warmer months, and hey, I got the oil anyways.

Oh, I got my car inspected today, too. The guy didn't know exactly where to put the sticker on the wraparound windshield...

Paul M.
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Posted 2015-04-03 10:04 PM (#474286 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-04-04 6:16 AM (#474301 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Massachusetts		I've been driving my '58 Plaza around for a 3-4 days. I've only gotten to changing the oil, with a tune up on my short list. Anyways, visited a friend last night, and the car wouldn't start. Tried this and that. Finally took off the air cleaner, it was getting gas. Took off the distributor cap, and the points weren't sparking! Yes! The old 'scratch-the-points-with-an-old-screwdriver' routine! I can't remember the last time I had to do that! Put it back together and she fired right up. Man, I love it...



Note to self: Please don't drop the little air cleaner clamp into the running fan blade again... That could have been nasty.

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Posted 2015-04-04 10:14 AM (#474314 - in reply to #165059)
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Getting ready for an engine update. Picked up a full engine gasket set, carb rebuild set and ignition recurve kit for 383 engine. Also built a small painting booth for engine parts.

I hope this goes as well as planned. We want to be ready for Mopars in the Park next month.

I plan to store the 361 so my son/grandson can put it back to stock in the future if they want to.

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Posted 2015-04-04 11:55 AM (#474323 - in reply to #165059)
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I delivered a lot of goodies that I got from Gary Goers to the shop for installation on my DeSoto. Happy dance!


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Posted 2015-04-04 2:32 PM (#474339 - in reply to #473666)
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60crossram - 2015-03-27 5:43 PM Rear pump on the 62 aluminum torqueflite. The cast iron torqueflite has a similar rear pump. I not sure if the 2 speed trans has one. I just think it's way cool that if your battery goes dead, you can pull start your car. Buildings the trans this weekend while and a few other things to get ready for the engine. DeSoto lives.

 

Yes my Powerflite (2 speed automatic transmission) in my Beast ('56 New Yorker) has a rear pump as well. I assume there was no major change (e.g. drop of the rear pump) in the Powerflite until it was phased out.

 

Happy Motoring!

 

Dieter

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Posted 2015-04-04 10:21 PM (#474386 - in reply to #165059)
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Location: Northen Virginia		When for a long ride to a lake with the car, running perfect, zero problems. Pictures are not the best, even that scenery was beautiful, but I cant drive and take pictures at the same time, my camera girl kinda is not the best...


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Posted 2015-04-05 12:06 AM (#474393 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-04-05 12:55 AM (#474394 - in reply to #474393)
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Posted 2015-04-05 1:08 AM (#474396 - in reply to #474394)
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Posted 2015-04-05 12:49 PM (#474427 - in reply to #165059)
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Yes, was a nice drive, my 75 years old father in -law was with me all the way, great guy but disappointed that in my collection of music DVD videos has nothing with "Johnny" Cash in it. Yes Ian I'm back in the US since last September, glad to the spring is finally here. 12 miles per gallon on the consumption...
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Posted 2015-04-05 1:16 PM (#474429 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-04-07 4:09 PM (#474656 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2015-04-07 8:10 PM (#474688 - in reply to #474656)
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