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The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1385 Location: Ocala, Florida | Visit to a small planet has a lot of FLs.Even a flying belvedere Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2013-08-14 9:37 PM (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (22KB - 531 downloads) image.jpg (47KB - 535 downloads) image.jpg (54KB - 497 downloads) image.jpg (75KB - 528 downloads) image.jpg (39KB - 530 downloads) | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | There was a 1960 Dodge Polara Convertible used in the cult monster movie Equinox. I extracted the good car clips from it and put them up on you tube. Anyone know this car? According to the commentary in the movie it was owned by a friend of the guys making the movie and the owner was a "car nut" and even at the time they made the movie they realized it was a rare car. Hopefully it's still around somewhere. At the very beginning of the clip they refer to it as a Desoto but it's obviously a Dodge. http://youtu.be/IEFDQb_jfQQ | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 716 | What's the option package that allows the car to fly above traffic? I want that. | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8446 Location: Perth Australia | Chitty Chitty option, I believe its fitted to most vehicles Exceptionally rare to find one in good working order, an example of one that does appear to work correctly (in most cases) would be the "Dukes of Hazard" vehicle that seems to fly at the drop of a hat It has been found to suddenly become active unexpectedly when speed and un even surfaces are combined, generally resulting in a vehicle thats no longer opperable. | ||
DIF-RNT |
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Location: NE Ohio | "Tin Men" (57 Plymouth - Tin Men.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57 Plymouth - Tin Men.jpg (40KB - 521 downloads) | ||
DIF-RNT |
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Location: NE Ohio | Vertigo Edited by DIF-RNT 2013-09-04 9:47 AM (Vertigo 1958.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Vertigo 1958.jpg (28KB - 507 downloads) | ||
MoParMan57 |
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About every time I see a movie on TCM from the late fifties to early sixties, there's always plenty of Forward Look MoPars and a various assortment of finned cars in the background. Neglected to see anything with a FL as the star, except that one red car... Shoot, already forgot it again! Funny how MOST "car people" would neglect to give any credit to these style of cars; I wasn't born in those days, and never really was around MoPars in general, so me actually liking these finned beauties was my own personality showing. I always spend my spare time fixing something, or looking at evidence that these were cars on the road at one point in time. | |||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | Prior to the 57 and up models I don't recall seeing anything in the way of Mopars in movies except the Chrysler Corp taxi's in the movies of the 30's and 40's. The first "modern" mopar I can recall seeing was in Citizen Cane when Orson Wells drives up/off in a FL convertible. My favorite scene in the movie. | ||
1960DesotoAdventurer |
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Wouldn't it be nice to go back to those days? You could go to the theatre and see good movies with these cars in them and then see them in the parking lot when you leave. | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | My mind is clouded by cars... Even though it's not a FL one of my other movie memories was some epic Liz Taylor type movie with Troy Donahue or similar actor in it in which he comes driving up to "the big house" in a 1960 Lincoln Continental Convertible. I just love the way those big convertible cars of the late 50's dominated a scene. When you arrived in a cloud of dust in one of them everyone knew you HAD ARRIVED!!! Just googled to see what I could find and ran across this on AMAZON..... 5.0 out of 5 stars PARRISH, November 24, 2009 By S. hanz "hann_music" - See all my reviews (REAL NAME) This review is from: Parrish [DVD] (DVD) Troy Donahue drove our Lincoln convertible in this motion picture. My father had just bought this car from the Lincoln show room window in Wethersfield, Conn. when the movie producers drove by and saw it. We were very pleased to know that they wanted Troy drive it in a movie. (and Claudette too) When we got it back, everyone took turns sitting in the drivers seat where Troy did. It is still an experience to see him drive it in this film even today. I was just 5 or 6 years old but I have a vivid recollection of this time period. When we drove this car with its top down, people would stop what they were doing. They would look as we drove by just because it was probably the most beautiful car of its time. The movie was rich in music and color. The scenes are classic Conn. and its Tobacco industry. Mystic Seaport, Tara Mar Marina and Hotel where many movie stars docked their yachts for a few days. Many times we visited when Frank Sinatra docked, Marlon, Katherine Hepburn and countless others. Connecticut in the 60s was a nice era. Thank you Troy Donahue and Director and Claudette for being such a happy part of our lives. Hann family, Conn. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7212 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | jimntempe - 2013-08-15 12:58 AM There was a 1960 Dodge Polara Convertible used in the cult monster movie Equinox. I extracted the good car clips from it and put them up on you tube. Anyone know this car? According to the commentary in the movie it was owned by a friend of the guys making the movie and the owner was a "car nut" and even at the time they made the movie they realized it was a rare car. Hopefully it's still around somewhere. At the very beginning of the clip they refer to it as a Desoto but it's obviously a Dodge. http://youtu.be/IEFDQb_jfQQ Very good clip of a beautiful car, but notice they talked about the driver grinding the gears at 2:00 in the clip!!! How can you grind the gears in a Torqueflite!! | ||
MoParMan57 |
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2013-09-07 9:22 PM Wouldn't it be nice to go back to those days? You could go to the theatre and see good movies with these cars in them and then see them in the parking lot when you leave. Yes it would. I never really was around finned cars a whole lot when I was young, I was born into the "new" generation- where all the of the kids my age still think a "Lamborghini" is cool. I can still remember clear as day, stopping to see a red 1959 Cadillac convertible when I was little; after that it all seemed to come together. But then again, I still believe in vacuum tubes, records, white wall tires, and space age design. Each to his own. | |||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2482 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Here they tended to be regarded as something of an excess... our cars were generally considerably smaller and the big fins were way more outlandish than the styling cues on the cars around them... But they were here - though only in small numbers - and we had some Fords and Chevs as well. And we saw them on television, the outstanding show being Highway Patrol, and didn't The People's Choice (or was that 'Peeple's') have them too? And in Leave it to Beaver and a few other shows. Last night I was up late and saw an episode of Naked City so I got my camera out: Edited by Ray Bell 2013-09-08 2:24 PM (0913frnakedcity1.jpg) (0913frnakedcity2.jpg) (0913frnakedcity3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 0913frnakedcity1.jpg (36KB - 517 downloads) 0913frnakedcity2.jpg (27KB - 489 downloads) 0913frnakedcity3.jpg (37KB - 520 downloads) | ||
1960DesotoAdventurer |
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | The tv series Mr. Lucky starring John Vivyan & Ross Martin also had lots of Forward Looks. I have the whole series on DVD and will try and make some screen captures to add here. I agree Chrysler was the only company to really push the styling envelope and embrace futurism and huge fins! Ford and Chevy were far more conservative,Ford always having the smallest fins. Ironically Ford's Fairlanes and Comets still wore small fins for 1963,long after Chrysler had moved away from them. After seeing Chryslers Forward Look cars with their futuristic dashes,low sleek rooflines and huge upswept fins you have to wonder why anyone would have bought a Chevy or a Ford? (mr_lucky.jpg) Attachments ---------------- mr_lucky.jpg (18KB - 540 downloads) | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2482 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | We never had that show here... Another one that featured cars strongly was 77 Sunset Strip, but they had Fords IIRC. What about Perry Mason? | ||
1960DesotoAdventurer |
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | "Date With The Angels" starring Bill Williams and Betty White was sponsored by Plymouth for both seasons of its run (1957-1958). The opening credits had a cool animated sequence showing angels driving a cloud that morphed into a 1958 Plymouth,and the end credits showed the couple driving a real '58. Edit- Just added some screen captures of the animated sequence. Edited by 1960DesotoAdventurer 2013-09-08 3:29 PM (date with the angels.jpg) (IMG_9066.PNG) (IMG_9067.PNG) (IMG_9068.PNG) (IMG_9069.PNG) (1958datewiththeangels.jpg) Attachments ---------------- date with the angels.jpg (9KB - 503 downloads) IMG_9066.PNG (124KB - 515 downloads) IMG_9067.PNG (133KB - 531 downloads) IMG_9068.PNG (150KB - 510 downloads) IMG_9069.PNG (154KB - 511 downloads) 1958datewiththeangels.jpg (12KB - 501 downloads) | ||
1960DesotoAdventurer |
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Heres a 1961 Chrysler wagon in the Coopers driveway from the tv series "The Wonder Years". (wonderyears.jpg) Attachments ---------------- wonderyears.jpg (87KB - 497 downloads) | ||
1960DesotoAdventurer |
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Ray Bell - 2013-09-08 11:49 AM We never had that show here... Another one that featured cars strongly was 77 Sunset Strip, but they had Fords IIRC. What about Perry Mason? There were some Forward Looks in Perry Mason. heres a link to a site that lists them. http://www.perrymasontvseries.com/wiki/index.php/Main/TheCars | ||
RDP |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1058 Location: PL / EU | http://youtu.be/z6Gkbg-6cu8 Edited by RDP 2013-10-12 11:24 AM (5868b658588.JPG) (4545745757.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 5868b658588.JPG (35KB - 534 downloads) 4545745757.JPG (30KB - 516 downloads) | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2309 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Perry Mason had many shots of cars in it. Someone has even started to compile a list of the cars that appeared in it - the web site url is posted above. I thought it was interesting that Perry couldn't make up his mind whether he liked Cadillacs or Fords as he drives both in the episodes I've seen from the DVDs (Seasons 1 through 3) If I were a rich attorney I know what I'd want to drive and it wouldn't be made in Dearborn. | ||
DIF-RNT |
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Location: NE Ohio | When I first saw this picture I thought it was a FL...although with some Hawaii Five O work found out it was a '54 Dodge...close but not cigar (Roy Rogers.jpg) (Roy Indy 500 - 1954.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Roy Rogers.jpg (41KB - 492 downloads) Roy Indy 500 - 1954.jpg (50KB - 544 downloads) | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1385 Location: Ocala, Florida | 56 Mayfair Convertible in httpDr-Dolittle--Million-Dollar-Mutts 2009. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (48KB - 512 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2600 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Ray Bell - 2013-09-08 2:21 PM Here they tended to be regarded as something of an excess... our cars were generally considerably smaller and the big fins were way more outlandish than the styling cues on the cars around them... But they were here - though only in small numbers - and we had some Fords and Chevs as well. And we saw them on television, the outstanding show being Highway Patrol, and didn't The People's Choice (or was that 'Peeple's') have them too? And in Leave it to Beaver and a few other shows. Last night I was up late and saw an episode of Naked City so I got my camera out: Dodgen do not look right fin and only one taillight per wing. Is it a ford 58 (check roof) faith? as they have done on a Dodge? anyone know? Maby I have wrong? Edited by Windsor59 2013-10-28 5:58 PM (0913frnakedcity3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 0913frnakedcity3.jpg (41KB - 503 downloads) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 440 Location: Vermont | I just saw this on Ladies Man with Jerry Lewis. I had to keep rewinding and watching this scene. Beautiful car. Edited by lownslow 2013-10-29 8:34 AM (i437566.jpg) Attachments ---------------- i437566.jpg (53KB - 491 downloads) | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | Those 60 Polara 2 Dr HTs were one of the nicest looking cars ever made. | ||
sidesho_bob1961 |
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | A Polara with dog dish caps!!!! WOW!!! | ||
lownslow |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 440 Location: Vermont | jimntempe - 2013-10-31 12:50 AM Those 60 Polara 2 Dr HTs were one of the nicest looking cars ever made. I'll agree with you there! | ||
FwdLk56 |
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Location: Indiana | Was the finned car in one of Michael Jackson's videos a FL? | ||
lownslow |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 440 Location: Vermont | In Thriller it was a 57 Chevy, of course, since it was the only car made in the 50's besides those 59 Cadillacs. Though we all know better don't we? | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | jimntempe - 2013-10-31 12:50 AM Those 60 Polara 2 Dr HTs were one of the nicest looking cars ever made. I love 'em too - especially those fins! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 170 Location: central Massachusetts | I am sure these Youtube clips are in this forum somewhere but thought I would share them again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0YL503HN4 "You're on the Test Track -1957" Great 28 minute comparison of 1957 FL to GM cars For a more humorous video, try “1958 Comparison of Ford, Chrysler, GM” at http://youtu.be/IR6N81VqKYw These guys must of had fun!! What are your favorite comparisons of FLs? (test track.jpg) (1958 leapfrogging.jpg) Attachments ---------------- test track.jpg (4KB - 502 downloads) 1958 leapfrogging.jpg (2KB - 512 downloads) | ||
JT Vincent |
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Expert Posts: 1493 Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | Joakim is right. That Dodge from Naked City doesn't make sense. | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Just caught a bit of "Grease" (the movie) on TV, relaxing after getting my D500 started again. I caught the start of the race scene down in the concrete LA river channel. A 56 Dodge Custom Royal, white, black and red shows up to watch. I have the DVD so I will have to find those scenes and do a screen capture and post them up. From 0:03 to 0:13 in this poor quality video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO3kUhgCpCg Edited by 56D500boy 2017-02-18 11:16 PM | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Didn't have time to review the Grease DVD but the car is a 56 Custom Royal Sedan, driven by one of the "Pink Ladies" http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_14117-Dodge-Custom-Royal-1956.html In the high school parking lot: At the Drive-in: | ||
1961plymouthfury |
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Expert Posts: 2651 Location: Minor Hill, TN | There is a 1961 plymouth fury in Hell and Mr Fudge | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | That is hilarious. I tried and tried to get a good screen shot of when the 56 Custom Royal and the three Pink Ladies arrive at the Drive-in in Grease, I think I end up with the almost same shot at I found on the internet. Chapter 13 1:18:56 for mine. Still looking for more. Edited by 56D500boy 2017-02-20 11:02 PM (56CustomRoyalAtTheDriveInChapter13_at_1_18_56.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56CustomRoyalAtTheDriveInChapter13_at_1_18_56.jpg (111KB - 422 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | A couple more: 56 Plymouth 2dr Hardtop on its way to the Frosty Palace burger/milkshake joint (with a 55 or 56 Chrysler Windsor (?) in the background) and the 56 Custom Royal in the Highschool Parking Lot Edited by 56D500boy 2017-02-21 2:05 AM (56PlymouthInGreaseAt_0_42_09.jpg) (56CustomRoyalAtTheHighSchoolParkingLotAt_1_00_54.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56PlymouthInGreaseAt_0_42_09.jpg (178KB - 416 downloads) 56CustomRoyalAtTheHighSchoolParkingLotAt_1_00_54.jpg (185KB - 415 downloads) | ||
Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | 58 DESOTOS RULE - 2013-10-16 10:21 AM Perry Mason had many shots of cars in it. Someone has even started to compile a list of the cars that appeared in it - the web site url is posted above. I thought it was interesting that Perry couldn't make up his mind whether he liked Cadillacs or Fords as he drives both in the episodes I've seen from the DVDs (Seasons 1 through 3) If I were a rich attorney I know what I'd want to drive and it wouldn't be made in Dearborn. It wasn't a case whether he liked a Cadillac or a Ford, but who was supplying the cars, either General Motors or Ford. When GM supplied the cars, it was a Cadillac. When it was Ford, Perry drove a Ford for the 1957 to 1960 model years and then Lincoln 4 door convertibles. Guess Perry was making a lot more in 1961 than when the show started. His Ford for 1959 was the retractable steel roofed Skyliner convertible. Paul Drake got a Corvette with GM and a Thunderbird convertible, with swing away steering wheel. from Ford. GM supplied the cars for the show's last year. During 1961 one show (done in the fall) had Perry dropping by a movie studio. As he went to the office at the back of the lot, he passed by a brand new, white, 1962 Studebaker GT Hawk. The only Studebaker I can recall in a Perry Mason show, other than on a street scene. It had wide white wall tires as used in 1960, and not the narrower tires that became common in 1962. But a beautiful car none the less. | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Here's the 56 Custom Royal arriving at the "Thunder Road" LA River race at 1:30:59 in Grease. (56CustomRoyalAtTheThunderRoadRaceinGreaseAt1_30_59.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56CustomRoyalAtTheThunderRoadRaceinGreaseAt1_30_59.jpg (131KB - 435 downloads) | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2482 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Hidden Figures is a good movie and it's full of Forward Looks... There's a '59 Plymouth 2-door which features in the background of a lot of scenes, but it's my no means the only one. Set in 1961, though I'm sure there's a couple of 1962 cars have sneaked into the sets, it's ripe for the Forward Look cars. One that surprised me was, I'm pretty sure, a 1961 De Soto. I recommend movie, both as an entertaining and interesting story and also as a chance to get a glimpse of these older cars. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 705 Location: California | Air suspension hehe | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Watched the movie last night with my wife. Just about shouted out when I saw the many Mopars. There are lots. A 1961 Chrysler 4dr hardtop plays a major role and has lots of screen time. Many others. I've captured two from the trailer. (Movie was okay but not great, even at Pay for View prices) (RulesDontApply0_54_1956Desoto.jpg) (RulesDontApply1_11_1961Chrysler.jpg) Attachments ---------------- RulesDontApply0_54_1956Desoto.jpg (86KB - 397 downloads) RulesDontApply1_11_1961Chrysler.jpg (136KB - 411 downloads) | ||
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Member Posts: 36 Location: Brooklyn, NY | 59 Dodge Coronet in the original Hairspray (IMG_0582.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0582.JPG (440KB - 418 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Ray Bell - 2017-03-14 8:46 AM Hidden Figures is a good movie and it's full of Forward Looks... There's a '59 Plymouth 2-door which features in the background of a lot of scenes, but it's my no means the only one. Set in 1961, though I'm sure there's a couple of 1962 cars have sneaked into the sets, it's ripe for the Forward Look cars. One that surprised me was, I'm pretty sure, a 1961 De Soto. I recommend movie, both as an entertaining and interesting story and also as a chance to get a glimpse of these older cars. hemidenis - 2017-07-23 10:27 AM From the movie "Hidden Figures" This Plymouth is mostly parked in the NASA parking lot, but it was used a few times in another scenes, actually all the same cars are used in different parts of the movie. Posted by Hemidenis (not me): Edited by 56D500boy 2017-07-23 1:02 PM | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Ray Bell - 2017-03-14 8:46 AM Hidden Figures is a good movie and it's full of Forward Looks... There's a '59 Plymouth 2-door which features in the background of a lot of scenes, but it's my no means the only one. Set in 1961, though I'm sure there's a couple of 1962 cars have sneaked into the sets, it's ripe for the Forward Look cars. One that surprised me was, I'm pretty sure, a 1961 De Soto. I recommend movie, both as an entertaining and interesting story and also as a chance to get a glimpse of these older cars. An excellent movie, thanks for the recommend. The movie is set in 1961 and yes a '61 DeSoto appears in a couple scenes--MY old DeSoto!! The flick was filmed in Atlanta, and the DeSoto was used as a police car (along with a '64 Ford--I know, I know, it's supposed to be 1961). The current owner of my old DeSoto has a fleet of old cars that he rents out to movie makers locally. Needless to say, I was stoked to see old "Shadow" in the movies! With her original black and white paint, she is a likely candidate for a police car "clone". By the way, I added the Chrysler dog-dish hubcaps--she originally had the full DeSoto wheelcovers. Pete (61desotojune072.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 61desotojune072.jpg (83KB - 398 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10063 Location: So. Cal | Neat! And I doubt anyone noticed that those are Chrysler caps instead of DeSoto | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7543 Location: northern germany | 58 plymouth cvt vs 58 plymouth 4 d ht. check out the other episodes richard diamond driving a 59 desoto cvt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKf6zTcl_Y | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 1960fury - 2017-07-31 9:03 AM 58 plymouth cvt vs 58 plymouth 4 d ht. check out the other episodes richard diamond driving a 59 desoto cvt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKf6zTcl_Y Chase starts around the 19:00 mark. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7543 Location: northern germany | 56D500boy - 2017-07-31 1:38 PM 1960fury - 2017-07-31 9:03 AM 58 plymouth cvt vs 58 plymouth 4 d ht. check out the other episodes richard diamond driving a 59 desoto cvt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKf6zTcl_Y Chase starts around the 19:00 mark. :) check out the next episode of 3/13/1958 you can see the result of that collision between the 2 58s, a bent bumper or wing, either left that way or poorly fixed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6cwBacdkMc okay, maybe not, it looks like it was bent before, but i refuse to believe that this is how they rolled off the assembly line. Edited by 1960fury 2017-08-01 5:30 PM | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10351 Location: Lower Mainland BC | I finally got some info from the son of the fellow I bought my car from (who had Alzheimer's by the time I bought my car from his wife). The son tells me that my car was used in several Vancouver BC-area shot films and TV productions including: Max Glick, Deliver Them From Evil, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (TV), Steven Spielberg's "Taken", Stephen King's "It" and This Boys Life (with Robert DeNiro and Leonardo DeCaprio). I have a Film Production window cards for Deliver them from Evil and the Sam Neil version of In Cold Blood (shot in Alberta) but I haven't found my car in either of those two. Now I get to try to find it in the other ones. Hope that NetFlix has some of them. If any of you have those on DVD and have nothing to do over the holidays.....;) So far I have found the shooting locations for "It" (1990 version) included my City (New Westminster) as well as Vancouver It Locations: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099864/locations?ref_=ttfc_sa_4 Edited by 56D500boy 2017-12-24 12:23 PM | ||
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