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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-01 3:32 PM (#425339 - in reply to #425317)
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Splain your logic on the pier pads vs. perimeter foundation and height off ground ....

Something like you have there would be a serious attraction to every mouse, rat, skunk and
raccoon within 100 miles in my area. They'd tear up the floor insulation, and with no way of a
real-size human squeezing under there .... then what ?

I am not a north New Englander, so profess no clue about building practices there. Teach me
something.

BTW, ... looks very solidly built.
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60 dart
Posted 2014-02-02 12:25 AM (#425425 - in reply to #149629)
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a lot of seasonal cottages are built on piers or posts of some sort , really nothing new or untried . way less expense-------------------------------------------------------later
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-02 1:17 AM (#425431 - in reply to #425425)
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Yeah, sure .... and maybe the idea is SUMMER cottage, where cold winters and insulated floors
are not an issue. That's why I asked. Just cuz something doesn't make sense to my area, doesn't
mean it isn't the norm somewhere else ! Vermont is well known as a summer cabin getaway desti-
nation.

Reminds me of a job I got 25 years ago .... raise 3 historic homes off the ground and put foundations
under them. 1 and 2 were a b!tch, as this kind of work is, but number 3 was ON the dirt and rotted.
We had to mole-tunnel under the house in three places to set our lift beams. Two teams of three guys ...
one to mole-dig, the other to drag the tailings out and dump them. Being the kind of guy I am, I let
my guys pick which of the three tunnels they wanted and I took the unwanted job. The south tunnel
had some air between the building and the dirt and was the easiest. The center one seemed the next
best pick. I got stuck with the most digging and was fighting a hard, dusty material the whole way.
I had two young guys teasing me (they had the middle tunnel) who were kicking my ass. For some
reason, their earth was damp and easily dug, even though they were only 15' way from my tunnel.
This took about 3 days, and on the last day, as they were still giving me a rash about being so slow,
the source of their moisture made itself clear, as they uncovered the broken sewer line that was soaking
their area.

Needless to say, their last 20 feet was no fun at all and they got real quiet about me being so slow.
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firedome
Posted 2014-02-02 11:17 AM (#425472 - in reply to #425431)
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The soil conditions there made it the best choice. It's heavy clay with about 2 ft of sand on top, it was once lake bed and ground water is very high every Spring, sometimes up to surface in wet years. The old timers knew what they were doing, all the old camps built in this seasonal lake community were on piers or blocks, but some just cinderblock on small stone or 2 x 2 footers too low to the ground and have had to be raised and reinforced, but none on foundations. Ours had been unoccupied for 10 yers, roof leaked, wrecked/rotted the floor and joists, so I opted to start over, tore it down over 1 summer with son's help. Being lake prop the trend has been for some wealthy new owners to rip them down and build fancy places on full poured crawl-space foundations, and all of them have to pump water out every spring, some have had sill rot, some major mold/dampness problems. I looked around, saw these problems, and opted to go the old way, but with 12" sonotubes 60" down to frostline on 'bigfoot" footers. Left lots of clearance height for good ventilation. Even I at 6"1 240# can get under most of it. One recent builder got smart and opted to do piers, but he didn't get it up high enough, however PT frame may save him... mine is double frame: 3 parallel connected tripled 2 x 12 beams in PT on the piers, and another doubled 2 x 12 on top of that for floor joists/deck. Bldg is 2 x 6 on 16" center, conv 2 x 10 rafters, the front half being open to ceiling, the back 1/2 is a BR loft. There's now post and beam spruce all wood pegged timbers in the open part which is both decorative and structural (done not by me but by a friend who's a timber-framer, amazing talented guy). The outside is Hardie panel, fiber cement, as is trim, and the roof is galv. Fabral commercial type standing seam metal roof with no exposed fasteners. Andersen windows. Eventualy inside walls will be rough sawn barn siding board. Inside's about 70% done, no finished floors except bathroom, no insulation except kit/bath + MBR. No wall finish except those 3 rooms. All plumbing gravity drains to be emptied each fall. No problems in 6 years, even the outside sand-washing-off shower (knock on wood!) All in all the place should outlast me... but well maybe that's not too hard at my age! Will get new outside pics when I get up in March. View from 200' away from back door:, this is why we go. Champlain is 110 miles x 12 miles, and fishing is amazing.


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firedome
Posted 2014-02-02 12:15 PM (#425489 - in reply to #149629)
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Standing in VT, looking at NY, 12 mi West:

sorry really didn't mean to usurp the thread, will stop now!



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-02 12:47 PM (#425495 - in reply to #425472)
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Didn't I "hear" you say you plan to move up there full time at some point ? What is the plan of attack
for floor insulation if you winter over ? Or did I get that all wrong ???

Sounds like you have found your own little piece of heaven. So few really understand that concept.
You are a lucky man. I guess I need to come visit when in New England.
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firedome
Posted 2014-02-03 10:43 AM (#425647 - in reply to #425495)
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Would enjoy having you anytime. Mom's family's been in VT since 1760s, 2 towns and a river are named for the Wait family. Growing up in MD and NC always wanted to move there but waited until age 50, should have done it at 20. After 8 yrs there we moved here for wife's professional opportunity, started the camp, but realized right off we missed it a lot, and most important son/wife/grandson there. So planned move back in 18-24 months, must wait for Medicare before wife can retire. Isn't very feasible to convert to winter specs as it was designed strictly as a camp The big thing would be conforming to current septic regs, meaning $20k sand mound, winterized water, insulation, &c. prob $50-60k. I need more space around me, it's a 0.4 acre lot, last house there was 5 ac. So we hope to sell out here, get 15-50 acres in the VT woods where we can have sugarbush, woodlot, privacy, build (timber-framer friend, I'd do finish work, no more framing!) a new but small 1000 ft2 super-efficient old looking house, heated garage of course! and full a basement for woodworking. That's the plan, but you know how plans go.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-06 12:11 PM (#426148 - in reply to #425647)
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I'll be in touch when the car is ready to roll .....

-4 degrees this AM when I got up. Too F#@ING cold to do anything in the shop but grab tools and go to work !
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firedome
Posted 2014-02-10 2:11 PM (#426691 - in reply to #426148)
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Same cold here, 5 degrees high tomorrow they say. What's work these days? Awful cold to be doing construction.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-10 11:22 PM (#426740 - in reply to #426691)
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I am hanging drywall and mud/taping. Nice and cozy indoor work.
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56royaldodge
Posted 2014-02-28 12:32 PM (#429295 - in reply to #149629)
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To avoid causing anymore fights on this forum, I'm just going to post on Doc Desoto's threads for now on. He makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-28 4:06 PM (#429322 - in reply to #429295)
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Getting warm-n-fuzzy with the dudes doubles a fella's chance of getting a date for the prom !
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56royaldodge
Posted 2014-02-28 4:26 PM (#429330 - in reply to #149629)
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So what exactly is going to happen in this ""shop"" of yours?

Does it involve animals?

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-02-28 9:51 PM (#429365 - in reply to #429330)
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Nothing short of pure evil.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-08 4:36 PM (#430415 - in reply to #425339)
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I took the day off to clean up the shop. A winter of zero temps, snow, and uninviting weather
has created piles of stuff just tossed inside the doors. In putting the first few things away, I
realized the roof had been leaking, looked up and saw a whole bunch of daylight. Our recent
windstorm tore a 9' x 26' chunk off the roof. Looks like my day of clean up will be spent on the
roof unfukking that mess.
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big m
Posted 2014-03-09 1:03 PM (#430498 - in reply to #149629)
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Sorry to hear that, Brent. Wind sure can be destructive.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-09 2:04 PM (#430503 - in reply to #430498)
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It took me the better part of the day, and laid waste to my plans to straighten up the shop ...
... a project I was working on when the extreme cold drove me out. I did get back inside and
raise 3 shelves where I keep my building tools before I called it quits. I will devote today to
rearranging stuff and labeling.

A big aggravation is having to buy new stuff because I can't lay hands on the one/s I already
own that hide somewhere in the "dark abyss". The rush job to get my storage units emptied
into this place before I deployed and the subsequent sending of stuff home has made for a very
disorganized mess. Shelf arrangement and labeling will help me get my head straight ... I hope.

Yeah, few things tear stuff up like the wind. At least here at my elevation and on a hill with
good drainage. Flooding is not an issue like it could be for some. My fix is temporary, and I will
need to redo that entire side of the building when the weather is nice and hot. Roof and tar work
doesn't set well when done in the cold.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-25 1:42 PM (#432983 - in reply to #430503)
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Installed a civilized door where the temporary plywood door had been. No more squeezing around a
useless door stored inside. More room inside, AND a nice functioning door tied in with the alarm system.

Now, to build some steps ...




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60 Imp
Posted 2014-03-27 8:49 AM (#433318 - in reply to #149629)
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Man, you sure do things different over there. Love the wiring job!

Steve.
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Gidman
Posted 2014-03-27 1:16 PM (#433357 - in reply to #433318)
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Looks good Doc! watching the shop take form over the years has been pleasurable. $50 fine isn't so bad depending on what the violation may be...
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61plymy
Posted 2014-04-07 8:25 PM (#434978 - in reply to #430415)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2014-03-08 1:36 PM I took the day off to clean up the shop. A winter of zero temps, snow, and uninviting weather has created piles of stuff just tossed inside the doors. In putting the first few things away, I realized the roof had been leaking, looked up and saw a whole bunch of daylight. Our recent windstorm tore a 9' x 26' chunk off the roof. Looks like my day of clean up will be spent on the roof unfukking that mess.

 

Leaking? LEAKING?? I thought you said it never rained over there and was sunny near 80 everyday? You said I should leave the rain on the West side and head for Spokanistan, and now I hear it actually rains AND the wind blows too? Next your going to say there is dust and dirt blowing in the wind too and that it's cold or something.

 

I think you have attempted to dupe me into making the same dastardly mistake you made when YOU left the West side. You are just trying to trick others into joining you in your misery. Well, mister, I have seen through your evil ways by way of your own post and your own words.

 

Leave the West side indeed. You; you; YOU SUCKY TRICKSTER!

 

Have a nice day, Brent.

 

Mike

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-04-07 10:04 PM (#435012 - in reply to #434978)
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I have never said that I am not evil or dastxrdly. I WOULD dupe you into leaving the swamps
under the false pretenses that this place is a mini Costa Rica. Tomorrow is forecast to be 73 and
sunny. You be the judge.
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61plymy
Posted 2014-04-09 7:02 PM (#435238 - in reply to #149629)
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I judge nothing and no one. I once judged it was a good idea to chase my youth and restore a 61 Plymouth and look where that lead me? Straight to the Sewey Hole on the FLN here where guys name their cars Old Brown and write in brown script as they relate turd stomping episodes.

You keep that sunny near 73 crap, Doc. Maybe if you have any time left over after patching your wind worn, rain soaked, leaky roof and jump on those cars you keep staring at instead of working on, you can put a heater in that shop so you can work year-round and stop whining about how cold it is over there.

Mine's a ceiling hung Natural Gas heater converted to Propane. I bought it from a guy who had stripped it on a job at Fort Lewis or something off of Craigs list. Checked the model before I bought it and made sure a conversion kit was still available, then made a cheap water tube to properly calibrate the pressure adjustment and voila! Heat any stinkin' time I want it.

Seems like a guy smart enough to get out of the swamps would have done something like that without havin' to be reminded.

As always, you know I am tugging your tail not jumping in your s**t, right

Mike
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-04-10 10:09 PM (#435427 - in reply to #435238)
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Have a pissed-off Gunny rock you back on your heels just once and you get your head squared
away about what is worth getting your knickers in a knot about and what is just for fun.

I like your idea but with 26' ceilings, I might as well have none and try to heat the world when it's
20º out. I didn't even have a roof framed when the recruiter gave me marching orders. I had to
request 2 extra weeks to button it up and toss all my sh!t inside ! I will follow your advice and net-
work some razoo heater once I get it insulated. We won't be playing this freeze-out game again.

When in doubt, do what the Swedes do .... have a serious shop to work in all winter ! Thanks
Arne for that little "gem" of wisdom. It was a real paradigm turner.
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61plymy
Posted 2014-04-11 9:49 PM (#435618 - in reply to #149629)
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Brent,

Look up Big Ass Fan.

Seriously, a little air movement and some heat goes a long way towards squelching the whining I can hear all the way to Snohomish from Spokanistan.

Hang a heater, install a "Big Ass Fan", and quitcherbitchin. You can buy me a beer later for my excellent advice.

As for handling pissed off Gunny's........... maybe a six pack and a ticket to the local brothel. I could never understand a friggin word they said when I was in and they were pissed, so I just let 'er roll, kept my mouth shut, and hoped they were'nt asking me a question. Worked for eight years.

Mike
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-04-17 1:23 AM (#436508 - in reply to #425425)
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As part of my effort to clear the shop of eleventy thousand cans of paints, stains, lubricants,
and chemicals, I built a securable wall cabinet over the last few days and proceeded to empty
boxes and counterspace filled with all that junk. A muy happy moment, indeed ! To think that
8 months ago the DeSoto was BURIED in tools, equipment, supplies, parts, and erstwhile "junk".

Now, all that remains around it are a few scattered items that need similar "homes". By the
time the weather gets really nice, I should be ready to roll on the old girl.
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Posted 2014-04-17 1:58 AM (#436512 - in reply to #436508)
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And you led me to believe that you were already experiencing nice weather!!??
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57plybel
Posted 2014-04-17 2:04 AM (#436513 - in reply to #149629)
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Be careful when you type in "Big Ass Fan"....... :laugh:

 

 

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Posted 2014-04-17 6:59 AM (#436534 - in reply to #149629)
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"I like big buts, I cannot lie"

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61plymy
Posted 2014-04-23 8:02 PM (#437469 - in reply to #436513)
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57plybel - 2014-04-16 11:04 PM

Be careful when you type in "Big Ass Fan"....... :laugh:

 

 

For those that are typeing-challenged, here is the link: http://www.bigassfans.com/

 

They also have big ass lights too :laugh:

 

Mike

 

 

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MisterRoyal
Posted 2014-04-24 12:23 PM (#437587 - in reply to #149629)
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So you are a fan of big asses?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-04-24 10:30 PM (#437688 - in reply to #437587)
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This thread derailed straight into Suckville !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-03 3:31 PM (#463491 - in reply to #437688)
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Back on track ....

After working for a year to set aside funds to push this forward, I began work on the front half of
the building, abandoned when I deployed.

A computer meltdown and the time spent ON the project (rather than posting regular updates) has
made for a large gap and many photos to post to bring this up-to-date.

First thing to do was grade the interior slab area from the compacted gravel mess I made from driving/
parking on it for years. Started out doing it by hand, but this proved an endless task and I brought in
a Bobcat to tear of the really hard stuff. THEN I located the sewer lines, dug the trenches, laid the pipe
in and connected with the main line. Backfilled and compacted and then did a final grade-out to bring
the whole place within a 1/4" of level. Did the driveway at a slope at the same time, but was unable to
get concrete poured this season. I was more focused on getting the building up.

Looks like I need to do a little photo editing before I can post them .... more to follow.



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sconut1
Posted 2014-12-04 12:51 AM (#463549 - in reply to #149629)
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Hey Doc..... I had no idea you were working on this. I just stumbled upon this thread. Good on ya and cut yerself another piece of raisin pie! (your lines) That's an amazing shop that your building and I like what you've done with it. I wish I had a place like that to work in. Keep going.... you'll love it when it's done. I enjoyed reading your posts and seeing all you've done.

Gord

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-04 1:29 AM (#463550 - in reply to #463549)
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OK, got some photo issues dealt with ....

First shot shows the rough grading being done ....

Second is when I pulled the 56 Dodge out of the old part of the building after I did my finish grading ....

Third is new concrete poured !!!

And last is the first floor exterior walls going up !!!



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ttotired
Posted 2014-12-04 5:48 AM (#463556 - in reply to #149629)
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So your extending the workshop even more?

I wish I had as much space as your old one

I would kill for room for a hoist

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-04 11:50 AM (#463583 - in reply to #463556)
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The ultimate design would hold nine cars, tightly packed, or less, if I want all the doors to
open, etc. It is not that I am expanding the project .... the foundation was poured for this
all along. I just had to stop at the center wall when I got my deployment orders.

The NE quadrant of the building has 26' clearance. I will put at least one lift in this area, and
later build a 2nd floor in over it for a parts storage area when I can see exactly how much room
I need for a DeSoto on a lift. The rest has 10'+ clearance, as will the second floor.

Here are a few more shots of the main floor walls going up. The building will incorporate dozens
of Victorian era doors and windows I have hoarded for years (more space cleared inside the building !)
and what I don't have, I will make.



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firedome
Posted 2014-12-05 1:36 PM (#463722 - in reply to #463583)
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That's gonna be one nice building... like the idea of incorporating old elements. I'd love to have space for 9 cars + lift, as it is I can barely do 3.
Great work.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-05 2:50 PM (#463736 - in reply to #463722)
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Old cars are just one thread of my interest in old stuff. An old car parked in a garage with vinyl
siding is just plain out of context ! The car is supposed to be PART of a larger "picture", and the
building is every bit as important as the car, the yard, the lights, windows, doors, and wiring ! Out
of context, it is all just a jumble of disconnected elements.

Just as I have been collecting old car parts for decades, I have been collecting all this other stuff
too ! The idea finally coming to fruition in this property with a place to "plug in" all these elements
into a cohesive design of a place that looks like a well cared for 1910 property as it might have looked
in 1960. Basically, I am reinventing my Grandfather's garage (on steroids) with all that old stuff wrapped
up into a design that functions with all my interests.

I plan to retire here, and I want an "island" of everything cool, in working order, and all within easy
reach, where I can do my thing and require no major outside support or new major projects.

Here are a few more progress photos ....

These were taken in late August. The first and second show the stairs completed to the first landing.
I was working well after darkness to beat the cold and snow.

The second two show distant views from the street to give a better idea of the overall project.



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big m
Posted 2014-12-05 3:34 PM (#463740 - in reply to #149629)
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You'll have a very nice place to work on and store your cars once you are done!!!

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Doctor DeSoto
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A few more as I bring this up-to-date ....

The big forward beam allowed me 26' of clear span from the old part of the building to the
office in the front part of the building. Weighing in at 844lbs., it was a real challenge to get
into place !

The next two show the beam in place and the floor joists being rolled. The first one shows
the framing of the top stair set being boxed out, and the last one shows the stairs installed.

From here, I built a complicated cantilever off the SW corner that will support the turret, and
then rolled the deck and covered it all up with a giant hay tarp for the winter. I am cleaning
up now and getting organized. Next will be to sheet the walls and install doors and heat.





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firedome
Posted 2014-12-17 10:11 AM (#464940 - in reply to #463895)
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Really coming together now!

Hey is that "radial wave" street light in the sunflower garden out front yours or the town's? Been looking for one of those for years. Used to be common when I was a kid, usually found with a 300W clear incandescent bulb in them.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-17 7:53 PM (#465004 - in reply to #464940)
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The light and pole line is all mine. The City inspector guy about had a cow when he saw it,
citing "illegal" this and that, deathtrap, etc., etc.. I just laughed at him and suggested the City
better change all its streetlight wiring up and down Grand Ave., as it is exactly the same, except
on a higher amperage circuit. He calmed down and said he wanted to see the fixture grounded
and that was that.

As a collector of early electrical "Frankenstein" gear, I made sure everything was GROSSLY over-
rated. He was actually impressed and has come back a couple times to look at the stuff I have in
the shop. Where else do you go to see 1890's switch gear and gauges ?

I have a friend in Boston that might be able to set you up with an old fixture.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-12-17 10:34 PM (#465028 - in reply to #465004)
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It looks fantastic! Do you have a sketch floor plan of the whole building? Difficult to put the complete puzzle together.

Greg
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-17 11:12 PM (#465034 - in reply to #465028)
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Outside of a 5' wide stairway as seen, there is a 11'x17' office/restroom bit out of the SW
corner. Otherwise, the entire 30'x70' floor is wide open for cars. The second floor is still a
"mystery", but will be as open framed as possible for maximum flexibility. The NE 15'x35'
has been left open to the rafters to accommodate a lift or two. I will frame a raised level deck
in that area for storage.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-12-17 11:48 PM (#465036 - in reply to #465034)
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OK, thanks. I'm waiting to see how you will frame the "roof" over the angled entrance SW corner.

Greg
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-18 12:49 AM (#465041 - in reply to #465036)
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Imagine an 1880's Queen Anne railroad depot with a corner turret that buries in the
belt line roof, with a double gabled front facade.
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Posted 2014-12-18 8:31 AM (#465078 - in reply to #465041)
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Ah--ha, YES, beautiful work!
Greg
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firedome
Posted 2014-12-18 11:25 AM (#465091 - in reply to #149629)
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Cool light for sure, there was one in front of my Grandma's house back in the '40s/50s.
Brent if your friend in Boston could put me in touch with one, I'd be most interested in it.
I too love anything old & electric, old signaling equipment, vacuum tube and Bell System stuff, 1900s to 50s, you name it.
Thanks.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-18 4:07 PM (#465114 - in reply to #465091)
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I will get you a POC for the light. I have collected early telelphone and electric stuff since
I was a little kid. Insulators, line hardware, switches, lineman's tools, fixtures, gauges. My
shop will look like Frankenstein's laboratory when it is is finished.
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