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57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | I've been wanting to try some full wheelcovers on this car for a while, so this is my first baby steps in that realm. I kept the same size wheels all around and swapped the tires over. The rears are "dirt track" wheels because they're the only thing I could find with the correct offset for my narrower rear end. Plus they were cheap! Eventually I might make some mild changes to the Lancers, but I kind of like them as-is with the gold wheels. Or try some different covers altogether. Definitely gives the car a more understated vibe. (20190709_195820.jpg) (20190709_204515.jpg) (20190709_204134.jpg) (66509676_938301693178262_6379335733865349120_o.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20190709_195820.jpg (249KB - 480 downloads) 20190709_204515.jpg (233KB - 486 downloads) 20190709_204134.jpg (205KB - 478 downloads) 66509676_938301693178262_6379335733865349120_o.jpg (136KB - 457 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 143 Location: Chippewa Lake, OH | That looks really sharp, I love the gold rims with your black car- very '50s especially with the spinners! | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | Looking great with the wheel covers but I personally do not like 3-tone or more than 2 colors on a car and the rims should be color keyed to one of the body colors. With a gold-anodized side trim the gold rims would look good. Just my opinion. Edited by 1960fury 2019-07-16 8:59 AM | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | I hear ya, Sid. Gold has been used to add subtle visual interest throughout the car; the grille, the engine, the instrument pods, door panels, seat piping, etc. So it's not completely out of left field. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1153 Location: D-70199 Heslach | Dennis, great so see it. I likr „your“ style | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | After looking at it for so long, I had it in my head that this car needed some slightly narrower whitewalls to fit in with the '59-61 time period I wanted it to look like. I was also determined to run my wire wheels on this car! I saved up some money and ordered a set of US Royal (Coker) 6.70 and 8.20 tires with slightly narrower whitewalls, then put them on the wire wheels. And they are all wrong. A side view is the most flattering look for it, but the tires are too short up front, and too narrow everywhere. Especially the rear! Dang it. I'm back to running the chrome reverse and tires I started with. On one hand it's expensive and aggravating, but on the other hand I'm glad I finally scratched that itch and can stop thinking about it. LOL Edited by 57burb 2019-09-18 1:00 PM (20190907_111753.jpg) (DSC_5941-4.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20190907_111753.jpg (195KB - 456 downloads) DSC_5941-4.jpg (383KB - 467 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Now you'll need another project to put those tires onto! Something wires would look good on. How about a '54-'56 DeSoto or 300B? Edited by Powerflite 2019-09-18 5:18 PM | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Yeah who can have only one fwl car? I mean they are cheap! | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Heh, yep. I do still have the wagon, but I think a local guy wants it more than I do. If I ever have another "nice" FL car it will probably be a red 300B with wire wheels. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Just a couple of small updates. I wanted to put the Trinidad carpet in the car back in March, but I ran out of time and budget for it. But it just had to happen! So I went ahead and paid the interior guy to do it so it would turn out nice, and I'm glad I did. He also made some floor mats for it and put the gold piping around them. At first I wasn't crazy with the pictures, but when I saw it in person it really popped! He said the carpet is like "looking at a galaxy" and he's kind of right. At night, it is really like looking into space. It's crazy. And then something else I have wanted to do for a long time was run chrome stripes over the roof. This is a "custom" thing I guess, but very localized to the suburbs of south LA in around '58-59. Not many people do this but I just love it! (gotta have something controversial or else it's not a custom!) And finally, someone accused me of "not driving" this car. I drive it all the time! I took a pic on the street when my wife and I were out this week. (20191013_175943.jpg) (20191020_175314.jpg) (20191020_182834_sm.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20191013_175943.jpg (350KB - 431 downloads) 20191020_175314.jpg (300KB - 439 downloads) 20191020_182834_sm.jpg (340KB - 444 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Those stripes shouldn't be too controversial because most people will never see them, except from above. You say they were popular in S. LA. How did you hear about it? | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | I like the car, but those stripes....... After 35 years reading 50s/early 60s custom car/car magazines I have never seen them. Anyway they did a lot of terrible things back then too, like the utterly tasteless "Watson-style" cars. The stripes are not as bad, but, in my opinion a mistake. Otherwise that car looks very clean. Also they look like painted, not like a molding, with other words a BIG NO-NO in 50s car design. You will not find a single American car from the 50s with painted on ornamentation, like in the 70s. The car designers of the 50s were styling-gods. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | the stripes are fairly subtle... i like em, kind of sets it off a bit. everyone has the black plain cars, and its out of the way. | ||
jboymechanic |
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Expert Posts: 2196 Location: Muskego, WI | I like the car both ways, it's such a fabulous car in either case. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Heh, thanks guys. Powerflite - 2019-10-28 1:35 PM Those stripes shouldn't be too controversial because most people will never see them, except from above. You say they were popular in S. LA. How did you hear about it? The car is low enough that you can see them. I have an entire bookshelf dedicated to custom car magazines and books from that '55-65 time period. I took a pic below of the area known as 'Kustomland' that was known for custom cars throughout the 1950s. 1960fury - 2019-10-28 3:16 PM I like the car, but those stripes....... After 35 years reading 50s/early 60s custom car/car magazines I have never seen them. Anyway they did a lot of terrible things back then too, like the utterly tasteless "Watson-style" cars. The stripes are not as bad, but, in my opinion a mistake. Otherwise that car looks very clean. Also they look like painted, not like a molding, with other words a BIG NO-NO in 50s car design. You will not find a single American car from the 50s with painted on ornamentation, like in the 70s. The car designers of the 50s were styling-gods. Well if you ignore all of Watson's legacy then you're going to have missed the chrome tape on the roof bit. They even laid some down on his casket! I would say the trend was contained almost entirely within The Renegades car club of Long Beach, and only from about 1958 to 1960. Watson wasn't a member but he did a lot of their paintwork as shown below. And it's just tape. It peels right off. It's just there to catch your eye if you're paying attention to the car. I was surprised how much people have commented on it. I might have to shoot some clear over them. Edited by 57burb 2019-10-29 11:57 AM (floydd13.jpg) (George-mitobi-1957-ford-ranchero.jpg) (iuCEA18S4W.jpg) (kustomland.jpg) Attachments ---------------- floydd13.jpg (128KB - 444 downloads) George-mitobi-1957-ford-ranchero.jpg (92KB - 434 downloads) iuCEA18S4W.jpg (127KB - 451 downloads) kustomland.jpg (88KB - 432 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Thanks for the pictures. That map pretty accurately maps out the worst part of LA today, except that it extends more to the North and less to the South. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | Powerflite - 2019-10-29 11:15 AM Thanks for the pictures. That map pretty accurately maps out the worst part of LA today, except that it extends more to the North and less to the South. Maybe there is something in the drinking water that explains the stripes and the delelopment of that area | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | mikes2nd - 2019-10-28 6:54 PM the stripes are fairly subtle... i like em This guy agrees (chipmunk.jpg) Attachments ---------------- chipmunk.jpg (6KB - 427 downloads) | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Hey it's all good Sid! You can't say I didn't warn all of you back in 2008! Posted 2008-01-23 5:52 PM (#112043 - in reply to #112042) Subject: Re: It's home, my '57 Chrysler New Yorker project-- Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in. Even the photoshop I did back then is pretty close to how the car turned out... (comparison.JPG) Attachments ---------------- comparison.JPG (145KB - 452 downloads) | ||
Firedome-TX |
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Member Posts: 36 Location: Austin, TX | That came out just stunning!! Wow! | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | The front bumper guards are a nice addition. They compliment the DeSoto bumper quite well I think. | ||
22mafeja |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 640 Location: Finland | This car is almost unreal-what a beauty....I f the man who have built it wants stripes-stripes it is! It is his car after all.. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Firedome-TX - 2020-02-11 8:53 AM That came out just stunning!! Wow! Thanks for saying that Clif. That front bumper is the very same one from the red Firedome parts car! It has a signature 'wave' in the lower passenger side where it meets the grille mesh. I kind of like that it's there, it reminds me the car has very humble beginnings! You can kinda see it in these pics. I'll be at LSRU again this year, maybe we can meet up and cruise. Powerflite - 2020-02-11 9:31 AM The front bumper guards are a nice addition. They compliment the DeSoto bumper quite well I think. Thanks Nathan. I always wanted the guards on it. In fact, at one point I drove to Missouri to pick up a second bumper. Supposedly it had nice guards and I needed a passenger-side guard because the one I had was rusty. The guards on this bumper looked intact, but again the passenger side one was so rusty that the only thing holding its shape was the chrome itself. Arrgh. I bought it anyway. And that's the upper part of the bumper on my car now. I still had to hunt down yet another pass-side guard. 22mafeja - 2020-02-11 10:45 AM This car is almost unreal-what a beauty....I f the man who have built it wants stripes-stripes it is! It is his car after all.. Thank you Ralf. It's funny, but most of my friends that didn't like the stripes at first have come around and said they like the car better with them now. oh well (desoto017.jpg) (DSC_5810-2 (2).JPG) Attachments ---------------- desoto017.jpg (73KB - 419 downloads) DSC_5810-2 (2).JPG (236KB - 426 downloads) | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | I put a couple of vids up of the car. My wife's friend wanted a video of the car and specifically to see the carpet, so I filmed this one night to give an idea of what it looks like. Sorry (not sorry) about the Waylon. https://youtu.be/u9pBpoGeiBc This one meant something to me because this club only gives awards to cars that really capture the pre'63 rod and custom vibe. https://youtu.be/Ey7e0Yj4E74 Edited by 57burb 2020-02-26 6:01 PM | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Put a stock '57-58 300 2x4 intake on it with a pair of WCFBs. Removed the generator mounting bosses from the intake and crossover. It took some work to get the air cleaners to fit. I still have some cleanup to do, and fine tune the carburetors. But it finally has the right vibe under the hood. Edited by 57burb 2020-03-07 11:23 PM (20200307_145749.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20200307_145749.jpg (295KB - 410 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Looks great! Why did you decide to go with the WCFB's instead of AFB's? I ask because the only reason I would use them is to make it look stock. I am not a big fan of them, but I plan to use them on my 300C rather than converting it to AFB's like everything else. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | The WCFBs have the right look, and I don't need to grind out the holes in a 60+ year old intake. I tell myself those are the reasons. But if I'm being honest, after years of seeing millions of small block Chevrolet engines with those "Elderbrock" carbs, I have a deep seated hatred for the old AFB. LOL. But there is nothing wrong with them, they are good carburetors. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | I agree about the Edelbrock carbs. The quality control went way downhill once Carter lost control of them. But the old OEM AFB is a great carb, coupled with a Weiand intake instead of the original. I agree that the WCFB's you have on there do look great. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | kustomrama did an article on my little kustom Pretty cool! I assume you guys have seen most of these pics, but it gives kind of a nice timeline. https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Danny_Vandergriff%27s_1957_Chrysler Edited by 57burb 2020-03-25 2:35 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9855 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 57burb - 2020-03-25 11:34 AM kustomrama did an article on my little kustom Pretty cool! I assume you guys have seen most of these pics, but it gives kind of a nice timeline. Congrat's to you (and your body work/paint Dad) Danny. Beautiful car. Nice article. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Congratulations, that's great! Your car really deserves the recognition. Did you see the final product being offered for the crossover with 331 heads on a 392? Despite our input they chose to make a blower version. Why? People running blowers don't have issues just using the one Hot Heads sells. What's worse is Hot Heads says of the same design, but for 392 heads, "does not work well with blower engines". That's why they made their other design. And their other design is cheaper too. So if it isn't good for blower motors, and it isn't good for regular motors, who's going to buy it? I don't understand why people spend gobs of money to make a product that crowds the existing market with the same product that very few people even want. Meanwhile, the stock style aluminum ones from PAW continue to skyrocket in price and no one wants to sell them. Edited by Powerflite 2020-03-25 6:13 PM (Arias Components Eng Crossover.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Arias Components Eng Crossover.jpg (59KB - 421 downloads) | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | 56D500boy - 2020-03-25 3:41 PM Congrat's to you (and your body work/paint Dad) Danny. Beautiful car. Nice article. :) Thank you Dave, I appreciate it! Nathan, it really doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems like the market would be for "streetable 392 block + 354 head" combos since people building Chryslers tend to want the cubic inches of the tall deck block and the improved flowing of either factory 555 heads or the Hot Heads aluminum version. When you say that crossover is a "blower version" do you mean the thermostat is offset more than factory, and mounted vertically? Is there any reason that couldn't also work for a naturally aspirated setup? Might need to drill a hole and tap a pipe fitting for the water pump bypass. Edited by 57burb 2020-03-26 10:26 AM | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | That design was originally meant for a blower, although it didn't work great because it put the hose through the middle of the blower belt. So you have to use a stiffer metal transition pipe through there. If you use it on a naturally aspirated setup, it sends the hose very close to the fan. If you eliminate the fan, there isn't an issue except for routing the hose to the radiator, but you have to change a lot of stuff to make it work well. And it's ugly. This design has been around since the '60's for the regular heads and it doesn't sell well at all. It's still available, but it only serves to increase the value of original crossovers. Original cast iron crossovers go for around $100 now. Almost no one is buying the aluminum one because of its design, and yet that's what they chose to make. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Hmm. Yeah, their market is the street rod crowd, the people that immediately scrap "all that crap" and cut a huge check to HH to run Chevy water pumps, billet serpentine arrangements, orange paint and black valve covers. "Suddenly It's 1966!" Edited by 57burb 2020-03-26 11:37 AM (My Hemi 27.jpg) Attachments ---------------- My Hemi 27.jpg (149KB - 414 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Exactly. I did an image search to see if I could find pictures of people using this design, and it's actually very difficult to find any. The only one I could find is this one that was set up to run exclusively on a dyno. (392 hemi.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 392 hemi.jpg (61KB - 392 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2196 Location: Muskego, WI | 57burb - 2020-03-26 10:35 AM Hmm. Yeah, their market is the street rod crowd, the people that immediately scrap "all that crap" and cut a huge check to HH to run Chevy water pumps, billet serpentine arrangements, orange paint and black valve covers. "Suddenly It's 1966!" :o I like you cane holder there. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Hop Up Magazine did a "virtual car show" on their instagram page, and the Chrysler get enough votes to make it to the top 4 of '55+ style customs. The white/blue Chevy ultimately won, but I think the little Mopar represented well seeing as it is pretty much a stock car. Great job, Exner! https://www.instagram.com/p/CAyb3TuFWwh Edited by 57burb 2020-06-04 3:47 PM (97992585_2918978054847279_7594635153045979136_o.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 97992585_2918978054847279_7594635153045979136_o.jpg (103KB - 373 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13042 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Congrats man, really cool. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 395 Location: upstate new york | Beautiful car... | ||
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Expert Posts: 2002 Location: Branson, MO | billy - 2020-06-15 11:27 AM Beautiful car... AMEN! | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Thank you guys. Here's a couple of other pics I liked. (103367709_549612172386250_9006734247777723422_n.jpg) (driving.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 103367709_549612172386250_9006734247777723422_n.jpg (182KB - 363 downloads) driving.jpg (257KB - 360 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 281 Location: WA/USA | I think I have read this thread at least 5 times. This car is a 10 out of 10 in my book. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | i honestly don't think it even needed the hood scoop | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Yeah, but there it is, being awesome... | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | The car drives great and everything works so I think I'm out of stuff I want to change. I might replace the vent windows with better ones eventually. And it has a small but persistent leak from the power steering box. But those will require taking the car back down to deal with, so maybe I'll do them some other time - or not. I took a short and very boring video to immortalize it as pretty much "done" https://youtu.be/GSRzxPRfPJE Edited by 57burb 2020-06-29 3:07 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | I'm very jealous of your done statement. I doubt I will be able to say something similar for many years yet. If you find yourself cruising to California anytime, look me up. I would love to take a closer look. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 443 Location: Beaumont TX | That is really a beautiful car. Great engine compartment too. I'll bet it looks better than it did the day it rolled off the assembly line. You've done a really beautiful job on that. Can you put a side by side picture of it now versus the day you got it. That would show just how good a job you have really done. Side by side of the engine compartment too. Really a beautiful job you did. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it. It seems like I've done a couple of before/after comparisons, but not on this thread. I went through photos of the day I found the car (before I had bought it) compared to photos from this year. That was kind of fun actually. (1-before.JPG) (1-after.jpg) (2-before.JPG) (2-after.jpg) (3-before.JPG) (3-after.jpg) (4-before.JPG) (4-after.jpg) (5-before.JPG) (5-after.JPG) (6-before.JPG) (6-after.JPG) (7-before.JPG) (7-after.jpg) (8-before.JPG) (8-after.jpg) (9-before.JPG) (9-after.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1-before.JPG (281KB - 370 downloads) 1-after.jpg (196KB - 359 downloads) 2-before.JPG (250KB - 364 downloads) 2-after.jpg (190KB - 349 downloads) 3-before.JPG (246KB - 361 downloads) 3-after.jpg (224KB - 357 downloads) 4-before.JPG (224KB - 351 downloads) 4-after.jpg (415KB - 359 downloads) 5-before.JPG (258KB - 354 downloads) 5-after.JPG (238KB - 352 downloads) 6-before.JPG (293KB - 352 downloads) 6-after.JPG (231KB - 348 downloads) 7-before.JPG (249KB - 350 downloads) 7-after.jpg (352KB - 355 downloads) 8-before.JPG (318KB - 358 downloads) 8-after.jpg (213KB - 356 downloads) 9-before.JPG (294KB - 350 downloads) 9-after.jpg (238KB - 354 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 298 Location: Kalispell, MT USA | 57burb - 2020-06-30 9:39 AM Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it. It seems like I've done a couple of before/after comparisons, but not on this thread. I went through photos of the day I found the car (before I had bought it) compared to photos from this year. That was kind of fun actually. OMG! Drool,, drool.... | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 443 Location: Beaumont TX | Wow.... Amazing transformation. Just amazing... What a beautiful car now. | ||
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