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57burb
Posted 2008-01-20 9:12 PM (#111659)
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I went and got that '57 Chrysler today, I'm as excited about a car as I've probably ever been! Looking at it more closely this time, with a more critical eye (money is about to change hands after all!) I was glad to see that it really is as solid and rust-free as I remember it being. Interior is pretty awful but that sheetmetal more than makes up for it.

Here's a teaser pic for now, I haven't had a chance to clean it up yet. Let me give it a bath and I'll give you all some more detailed pictures tomorrow. This is a fairly un-molested example, so if anyone is wanting pictures of specific parts for their restoration, I'll be happy to take as many as you like.

Enough gloating! Here's your one picture!



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57burb
Posted 2008-01-20 9:47 PM (#111661 - in reply to #111659)
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Anyone know how to decode a '57 Chrysler trim tag? hehehe

UHU looks like Deep Rust Poly on the roof and spear and a Mist Gray main body. It's probably not going back to factory colors!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:22 PM (#111664 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats Danny!!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:22 PM (#111665 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats Danny!!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:44 PM (#111667 - in reply to #111659)
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Wow. Just wow.

Take heed of your incredible luck, Danny. What an awesome find.
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Posted 2008-01-20 10:45 PM (#111668 - in reply to #111665)
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Awesome car ! Here's the breakdown of your dataplate:

Paint mist gray (H); deep ruby (U

361 manual antenna

328 power windows

326 six-way power seat

343 fender ornaments

344 a/c

349 dual headlights

331 vanity mirror

335 mirror - left side

334 mirror - tilt type

321 radio - electro touch tuner

322 rear shelf speaker

323 heater - custom conditionaire

265 ?

332 solex glass

325 power brakes

324 rear window defogger 

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:48 PM (#111670 - in reply to #111659)
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And loaded to boot.

Danny, you'd better keep her - I can guarantee that there'll never be another one like her to come across so easy.....
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57burb
Posted 2008-01-20 11:03 PM (#111672 - in reply to #111670)
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Ron - thank you so much for decoding that! How would I get those codes myself? I'm also interested in production numbers and such. I'll dig around tomorrow to see if I find a build sheet under the rear seat or taped to the glove box.

Mark - don't worry bud, it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Posted 2008-01-20 11:29 PM (#111674 - in reply to #111659)
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Right on, Danny.

And on the 30th Anniversary of the Tulsa reunion, I hope to see you there with the '57 when I pull up in my well-preserved '55 Fireflite Coronado. That baby's gonna be a lifer with me.
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Posted 2008-01-21 12:02 AM (#111677 - in reply to #111672)
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57burb - 2008-01-20 11:03 PM How would I get those codes myself?

They came from Wayne Graefen's 1957 Chrysler 300C Handbook. Codes are the same for all 57 Chryslers, however. 

If you want to contact Wayne, his email is: wgraefen (at) WINDSTREAM.NET. 

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Posted 2008-01-21 10:01 AM (#111699 - in reply to #111659)
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That car, in that condition, with those options, is a candidate for restoration. Had you found a cheapo, low/no option model, you could put it back together with your own custom touchs...but a car like THAT car is capable of becoming a high value restoration...IF put back to Factory original (Data Plate) condition. That car, in that condition, is a rare find. Take your time with it, do a proper restoration to it (no matter HOW long it takes), and you will wind up with an investment...

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Posted 2008-01-21 12:07 PM (#111715 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats! Lookin' good!

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Posted 2008-01-21 12:41 PM (#111718 - in reply to #111659)
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I know I'm excited just seeing it on the trailer, and it's not even mine. We need more pictures.
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Posted 2008-01-21 12:43 PM (#111719 - in reply to #111718)
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Looking like a real good project, good luck and keep us posted.
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Posted 2008-01-21 5:50 PM (#111758 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks great. Is it single or dual headlight? I assume from the photoshops you posted you're thinking about going mild custom with it?
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Posted 2008-01-21 6:49 PM (#111768 - in reply to #111758)
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Car is dual headlight. Yes it will be a mild custom, meaning - nothing that a paint job and an SMS interior wouldn't "fix." I don't intend to cut it. And it will be a good investment no matter what I do with it. I'm not looking to make money on it - I want to have the car I've always wanted!

It is 45*F here with 15-20mph winds and rain, so I didn't do squat with the car today, except put some wheels on it.

But - the more I play with it, the more I LOVE this car!



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Posted 2008-01-22 2:02 AM (#111808 - in reply to #111659)
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Those wheels are a little "starting in the wrong end" but they are totally stunning on that car! Glad that you brought here home sound and safe.
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:36 AM (#111823 - in reply to #111768)
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remember its a 57(!) mopar. unrestored. i wouldn't leave it out in the rain (or wash it) longer than neccesarry
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:53 AM (#111825 - in reply to #111823)
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The old tires wouldn't hold air, and these were just laying around.

As for the car, it needs to be outside at this moment (unfortunately) and will be inside before the weekend. Don't worry, this car is going to be well looked after.
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Posted 2008-01-22 1:45 PM (#111855 - in reply to #111659)
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Absolutely Beautiful, Danny!

Congratulations on a GREAT-LOOKING ride.
(For whatever it's worth... I like the way it looks right now. Shiny wheels on a beautiful car with great patina.)

If I could ever the brakes & electricals on our '60 Chrysler figured out... I'd probably drive it around in the same condition for a while.

Enjoy it, Danny... A great find indeed!

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Posted 2008-01-22 2:18 PM (#111857 - in reply to #111659)
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Love the second shot, I think it will look awesome with a mild custom treatment.
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Posted 2008-01-22 2:53 PM (#111864 - in reply to #111857)
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Took some more pictures on my way out the door this morning, and just downloaded them. I put a couple of turns on the torsion bars last night but it was too dark to see. Also cleaned out the interior and trunk a bit, taking inventory of what is there and what is missing, what needs to be addressed, etc. Once I get a real handle on what is needed, I'll map out a project plan. For now - here's the newest pic I've got.



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Posted 2008-01-22 3:33 PM (#111869 - in reply to #111864)
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Congratulations on the ’57! Seems there is a nice clique of ’57 Chryslers on the list now. There is nothing quite as exciting as those first few days/weeks with a classic car, at least for me. Digging around under the seats and in the trunk, taking an inventory on parts you have, replacing the old belts/hoses, putting on new wheels, etc. Good times….enjoy!

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Posted 2008-01-22 4:40 PM (#111880 - in reply to #111825)
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57burb - 2008-01-22 3:53 AM

The old tires wouldn't hold air, and these were just laying around.

As for the car, it needs to be outside at this moment (unfortunately) and will be inside before the weekend. Don't worry, this car is going to be well looked after.


Ah how I wished that I had some nice wheels like that laying around - could'nt find the even if I dig up the complete lot here.
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:24 PM (#111924 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks like you got a great starting point. Have fun and good luck
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Posted 2008-01-23 1:46 AM (#111958 - in reply to #111659)
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If I could have found your 57 before I got my 56--I would have tried to own it ( I was looking!) Great find! what is the story behind it--how did you find it and where had it been to be in that good of condition? You are having some fun now!!!..................................MO
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Posted 2008-01-23 6:00 AM (#111963 - in reply to #111864)
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Wow, what a difference a little altitude adjustment makes !!!!
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Posted 2008-01-23 12:23 PM (#111983 - in reply to #111963)
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I actually found the car on my local craigslist, of all places.

I do a search for "1955" and go up through the years to "1961" (lol!) and this popped up under 1957. Good thing, as the original posting misspelled Chrysler. It was listed as a 2dr sedan and mentioned no price. The lady that owned it didn't know much about it, but loved how the car looked. She had taken it to a local restoration shop, but once she realized the $$$ involved, she decided she would sell it instead.

It appeared on craigslist at 8:30am, I emailed the seller at 1pm, and I drove to see it before 3pm that same day! I'm glad I did. The guy that runs the restoration shop really liked me, he could tell I liked the car and we talked for a long time about the business, cars and life in general. I didn't leave until 7pm.

Then I called the owner and said I really liked the car, I told her a lot about it. I told her it was incredibly rare and didn't lie about anything on the car, and made what I considered a fair offer. I couldn't match the $$ that someone had told her it was worth, someone at the Branson 1957 car museum had said it was probably a $20-25k car in unrestored condition. I told her I could not offer that and good luck in selling it, and then we just had a long conversation about things other than cars. She's a really interesting lady, she owns a few dance studios and is a huge collector of ... collectible things. I emailed her that night with the pictures I took (she had none) and a long list of information about the car, I told her if I couldn't buy it, then she should get top dollar for it! haha

Well after a few weeks, the guy from Branson said he couldn't give her that money for it (maybe she sent him my pictures!) and she had gotten a few other offers higher than mine. She needed money for her newest dance studio and she and the restoration guy really wanted me to have the car since I liked it so much. She told me what her top offer was and asked if I could match it. I said yes I could, and a deal was struck.

She said the car was sitting in a friend's backyard! It was bought new in Oklahoma by this other lady's aunt and she inherited it but didn't know what to do with the car.

In retrospect I probably didn't pay too much, you just don't see rock-solid 2dr HT ForwardLook Mopars going for cheap! Especially those that are arrow-straight with all their trim and 392 Hemis under the hood.

I feel blessed to have the car and to make a couple of new friends out of the deal. Hope this post wasn't too long, but I'm glad I got to tell the story. -Danny
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Posted 2008-01-23 1:11 PM (#111990 - in reply to #111983)
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...and it is great to hear the story. Look forward to many more pics as your project unfolds...

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Posted 2008-01-23 6:07 PM (#112035 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny , way to go on that score . That car looks like it is in incredible condition . Is it a secret or are you willing to share with us what you had to give for it ? If you don t , well thats o k too . Some people may think its being nosey , but I m just curious . Me personally , I have no idea what something like that is worth . I m way out of tune with the rising prices , cause I still look for them 1k -2k deals .

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Posted 2008-01-23 6:39 PM (#112041 - in reply to #111659)
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good find, ill go full custom with it, air suspension, dvd player, good rims, thousand of watts in the stereo system, custom interior and lot of chrome under the hood. Great proyect



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Posted 2008-01-23 6:48 PM (#112042 - in reply to #112035)
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Charlie, I'm always looking for deals like that too, but I got sick of going out and looking at cars that were really rough. I gave 1200 for my last car, the DeSoto that had no floors. But I got rid of it with the mind that I would put that money toward something really nice - at least really SOLID. Rust takes so much time effort and money to fix that it's worth paying more for the car to not have to deal with it.

This car is at the high end of what I could afford, but I knew I'd kick my own butt if I didn't do everything I could to get it. Guys here were telling me a fair price would be between $6-8k, and I'll just say it ended up in that range. Now that I've got it, looked it over, and let it sink in that it's mine, I think I paid a very fair price for the car. My dad said that's a lot of money for a car that doesn't run, lol.
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Posted 2008-01-23 6:52 PM (#112043 - in reply to #112042)
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Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in.
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Posted 2008-01-23 7:10 PM (#112046 - in reply to #111659)
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Sweet!!!!! I love 57-58 Chryslers, ....rare in you finding one so solid as this one is!!! Good luck with her and welcome aboard/keep us posted on your progress.... Teffany.
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Posted 2008-01-23 7:24 PM (#112048 - in reply to #111659)
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Yeah , I agree , with the time and money spent on chasing rust over the years , starting out with a solid car is a huge step in the rite direction And it will probably equate in a lower price completed restoration . I know I can speak for a lot of people here , We are happy for you with this rare find . That frontend on the 300 is that unique to the 300 only ?

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Posted 2008-01-24 1:01 PM (#112120 - in reply to #112041)
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Posted 2008-01-24 2:41 PM (#112128 - in reply to #111659)
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57burb I'm with you with the late fifties early sixties thing , if it was mine it would be royal blue with lighter blue scallops and chrome tape on the roof (maybe next time on the DeSoto ),I put dual quads and a mild cam on the 392 in my coupe it ran really strong and looks so tough .
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that 300 sucks


I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny
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That's gonna be a hell of a car... I like it as is even. Congrats and keep the pics a-comin.
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Posted 2008-01-24 6:58 PM (#112170 - in reply to #112132)
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1960fury - 2008-01-24 7:01 AM

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I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny


The exterior looks ok, but when you redo the interior and especially replace the seats with new buckets then the car does not have the nostalgia feel and look anymore.... I would keep the interior stock and just get it re-apolstered.
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Posted 2008-01-24 7:21 PM (#112174 - in reply to #112132)
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1960fury - 2008-01-24 7:01 AM

that 300 sucks


I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny


i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!

you should be glad another mopar survives, in ANY form. it may now live to fight another day, maybe even as a restored original, who knows.

if we blast one another, we only diminish the size of the group; the LARGEST group in the world dedicated to preserving the cars that you love! let's not try to run people off. we need everybody!
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i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!



unfortunatly true, nobody said he can't.


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i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!



unfortunatly true, nobody said he can't.




c'mon, sid. be a guy. if you don't like it, try something like, "i prefer original decor", as opposed to "that sux!"

i guarantee you, the owner likes it. i would prefer that he like US, as opposed to saying, "those snobby a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s suck! i'm outta here, to hell with 'em!"

i'm not saying you should change how you think, let's just be kind to our guests and fellow mopar fans. we are not chevrolet fans; there aren't enough of us as it is. we don't need to run people off.
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Posted 2008-01-24 8:09 PM (#112178 - in reply to #112174)
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you should be glad another mopar survives, in ANY form.

if we blast one another, we only diminish the size of the group; the LARGEST group in the world dedicated to preserving the cars that you love! let's not try to run people off. we need everybody!


you said PRESERVING these cars. is that what you call PRESERVING? look at that .... interior, if you're inside you could think you're in some new jap car. there is almost nothing left of 50s exner design. it's not just the outer skin that makes a forwardlook car a forwardlook car. these were tastefully designed by exner and his crew inside and out. these cars are works of art, everything fits together, FIFTIES style. all what's left of that garish 300 is the outer skin that still screams 50s (while the interior looks like from a new jap car) i don't call that preserving!

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59savoy - 2008-01-24 7:58 PM

[ we are not chevrolet fans; there aren't enough of us as it is. we don't need to run people off.


i prefer a chevrolet fan with style/taste over a mopar owner who did THAT :wince:looks like a coddington creation

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57burb
Posted 2008-01-24 8:30 PM (#112180 - in reply to #111659)
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Don't worry boys... that will never happen to my Chrysler.

Besides, I think we all know what happens when you piss off a Forward Look car!!



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Posted 2008-01-24 9:51 PM (#112192 - in reply to #111659)
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I've got to agree that the interior is ruined in that orange car. The outside is ok though, needs some different wheels.
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Posted 2008-01-25 8:32 AM (#112225 - in reply to #112180)
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57burb - 2008-01-24 6:30 PM

Don't worry boys... that will never happen to my Chrysler.

Besides, I think we all know what happens when you piss off a Forward Look car!! :stressed:


Ooh! What a silhouette!!!

I'll be an official member of the FL - and DeSoto - family soon enough, but Danny, every time I see pics of that 'new' '57 of yours, I get more and more green with envy.

That said, let me go on record here and now that when I get the '55 Fireflite Coronado in my driveway and start to bring her back, she's going to remain 95% original:

Outside of the 12V electric, modern A/C and sound system, she's going to be just as she was when Groucho talked about here and her siblings during the 8th season of "You Bet Your Life". She will retain her original tri-tone paint scheme in it's original combination and application; she will retain her original powerplant (and Powerflite); she will retain her original interior, right down to the black and white door panels with turquoise fabric inserts, along with her original white leather seats with turquoise cloth inserts and turquoise fabric on the front seat backing and, if I can find it, her original trunk lining/mat.

Somewhere down the line, there MAY be 2 other things I'd do to her: She presently has power steering, power brakes and 4-way power seat - I'd like to find the 12V power window works from a '56 and give her effortless, crank eliminating window lifts to complete the "ensemble". The other - and this would be WAY, WAY down the line since she presently has a full set of original wheel covers - would be to acquire a set of Kelseys for her. Whether it's the design of the wheel openings or what, those Kelseys just fit like a good pair of comfy old shoes on the 1st generation FLs.

Any way anyone could give out with a ballpark on what a full set of Kelsey-Hayes wires go for presently?

BTW, I'm with the consensus on the eyesore of a 300 C earlier in the thread. Sure, it's their car and to each their own, but you'll never find me getting a kick out of it - unless it's in the form of a recoil due to a hurl from the toenails.....
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Kenny J.
Posted 2008-01-25 8:54 AM (#112227 - in reply to #112225)
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i.e., the orange 300.

Dare I ask if an early '60s customizer would have done the same if the necessary items were available then?

That noted, I prefer the ambience of an original interior regardless of whatever is under the hood or body.

K.
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Kenny J.
Posted 2008-01-25 8:58 AM (#112229 - in reply to #112227)
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Oh, and at least it's unlikely the current owner of the orange custom will be butchering any nice Windsor, Saratoge or New Yorker survivors to cobble together a thoroughly thrashed and trashed 300C into a "matching numbers" trailer queen.

K.
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