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Ray Bell
Posted 2019-09-12 12:01 PM (#587426 - in reply to #81647)
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Actually, the more I look the more I think it's a '62 model Dodge Custom 880...
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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-12 4:28 PM (#587448 - in reply to #587426)
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Posted 2019-09-12 5:26 PM (#587450 - in reply to #587448)
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1960fury - 2019-09-12 3:28 PM .

That's a really cool picture. Well composed, great color pallatte, and it really says something about the time and place it was taken. Very interesting subject as well, that guy's outfit realy stands out amid the background. Do you know who the artist is? Or is that just some random pic you found online? 

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Ray Bell
Posted 2019-09-12 6:55 PM (#587460 - in reply to #81647)
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A closer look...

Is that some kind of a badge just ahead of the door? Does that help identify it?



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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-13 5:25 AM (#587473 - in reply to #587450)
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drosera88 - 2019-09-12 5:26 PM

1960fury - 2019-09-12 3:28 PM .

That's a really cool picture. Well composed, great color pallatte, and it really says something about the time and place it was taken. Very interesting subject as well, that guy's outfit realy stands out amid the background. Do you know who the artist is? Or is that just some random pic you found online? 



Just a random picture from the mid/late 60s I guess. Artist?
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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-13 6:25 AM (#587476 - in reply to #587473)
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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-14 5:55 AM (#587506 - in reply to #587476)
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Posted 2019-09-15 10:55 AM (#587543 - in reply to #587506)
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Regarding these 56 Dodges, does anybody got any info about this dealer car show, i.e. location, date, more photos, etc?

It has a four door Lancer in the same colour combo that my uncle had (who inspired me to like and eventually - 50 years later - buy my 56 Dodge). There is the La Femme as well.

Maybe more importantly to me is the Sapphire White and Oriental Coral 2 dr hardtop sitting there. Those are the colours of the first 56 D500s and I would love to know when the photo was taken. The D500s were released in late 1955/early 1956 so if I was guessing, I would put this show as January or February 1956. (??)

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-09-15 2:01 PM (#587548 - in reply to #587543)
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Answering my own question (is anybody out there?):

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object...

Now to contact the Detroit Library to get more info.

But wait (I was right about the approximate date (Jan/Feb 1956, actually Feb.18 to Feb.26, 1956 so the probability that the Sapphire and Coral Lancer is a D500 goes up a lot.





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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-18 3:14 PM (#587714 - in reply to #587543)
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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-20 5:28 AM (#587763 - in reply to #587714)
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60 Imp
Posted 2019-09-20 7:51 AM (#587765 - in reply to #81647)
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Nice work finding the pictures, as usual Sid. Love the pic of the 59's on the train. I wonder where the hubcaps are stored? In the car, or on the train or sent separately to the respective dealers? Must have been a lucrative business, relieving cars of hubcaps during transit to the dealers. I wonder how many hoards of midnight spares are still out there from back in the day of our cars.

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Posted 2019-09-20 9:43 AM (#587767 - in reply to #587765)
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Steve --
Generally, the wheel covers were in the trunk as often were the special badges (i.e., "scare emblems") such as D500, Golden Commando Power, etc.
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Posted 2019-09-20 12:06 PM (#587771 - in reply to #587767)
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I used to work at a Plymouth dealer in the mid 80s where my job was to inspect new car arrivals from the transports for damage. The hubcaps and license plate brackets and hardware were shipped in the trunk. The cars would often arrive with heavy exhaust fallout from the diesel trains. The cars were then washed down with a chemical to remove train exhaust.
On at least 3 different occasions new cars arrived with bullet holes in them from being shipped on the train cars.
On one occasion the salesman told me that a New Plymouth voyager was arriving from the transport and to detail/check it in as ASAP as the buyers were called to pick it up and they were coming from a long distance. The van arrived with 3 bullet holes in it!!! Holes in the door panels,seats etc. I ran to the office to tell the salesman to cancel the pickup. It was too late they were on there way. They arrive excited to pick up there new car
Salesman told them,Ahhh,Ummm, don't worry we can fix it
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Posted 2019-09-20 10:19 PM (#587792 - in reply to #81647)
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A fine '59 @ A&W



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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-21 4:35 AM (#587798 - in reply to #587792)
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The 2nd pic shows a 59 Dodge wagon, you can zoom in here (maybe someone can post a bigger picture):



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Ray Bell
Posted 2019-09-21 7:04 AM (#587800 - in reply to #81647)
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I wish you would make that offer when the pic's too big...

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Posted 2019-09-21 8:37 AM (#587801 - in reply to #587800)
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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2019-09-24 10:38 AM (#587898 - in reply to #81647)
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Nice snowy scene. I can hear the wheel tubs of that Dodge wagon rusting away from the sallty slush splashed up into them by the tires, from here.  I'm guessing the picture was taken around December 1964 as I can make out a 1961 Chevy and a 1964 Chevy Chevellle parked along the road.

 

 





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Posted 2019-09-24 1:25 PM (#587905 - in reply to #587898)
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58 DESOTOS RULE - 2019-09-24 8:38 AM

Nice snowy scene. I can hear the wheel tubs of that Dodge wagon rusting away from the sallty slush splashed up into them by the tires, from here.  I'm guessing the picture was taken around December 1964 as I can make out a 1961 Chevy and a 1964 Chevy Chevellle parked along the road.

 

 



I got lucky, when my parents were driving my 64 880 in the 60's and 70's in the snow, Montana didn't use salt on the roads, just sand or fine gravel.

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1960fury
Posted 2019-09-24 3:26 PM (#587909 - in reply to #587905)
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Posted 2019-09-25 9:08 AM (#587926 - in reply to #587905)
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That was lucky. I assume you still have this car. One other state that does not use salt on the road in winter that I am aware of is Oklahoma. They too spread sand and crushed gravel. I found that out when I made a trip to Tulsa in Feb 2006 doing a dry run for the unveiling of Miss Belvedere the next year. It snowed pretty heavily during that week I was down there. It made for some interesting winter driving moments. 

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Posted 2019-09-25 9:34 AM (#587928 - in reply to #81647)
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Sid, I don't know where or how you found the pics in this thread, irrespective of that, you have made a wonderful collection. The pics in your most recent post are some of the best yet. I especially like the color pic of the old Guy washing the silver and white Dodge coupe, and the B & W pic of the mean looking Cat with the 57 Plym coupe!
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Posted 2019-09-25 2:54 PM (#587943 - in reply to #81647)
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Thanks Steven! I find so many great pics, disturbing in a good, yet somehow sad way, at the same time. Unfortunately some of them do not show any FLs and I have to leave them out.
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Posted 2019-09-25 3:20 PM (#587946 - in reply to #587943)
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Not sure if I posted these before.

Dang, if I reduce them to "small" (0.25MB) it still says too big. Isn't 0.25MB under 500KB? Anyway, this is the smallest size I can it downsize to.

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Posted 2019-09-25 4:55 PM (#587949 - in reply to #81647)
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Please download Irfanview, then you can totally control the size (and other features) of your pics.
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Posted 2019-09-26 2:59 PM (#587982 - in reply to #587946)
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Posted 2019-09-27 2:10 AM (#588006 - in reply to #81647)
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The photo of the 1960 Imperial above with the two ladies, I thought 1960 Imperials were equipped with an alternator, like the Valiants, Lancers and 300F Special? Clearly that car has a generator.
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Posted 2019-09-27 3:06 AM (#588008 - in reply to #588006)
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Correct as stated, 300F special, valiants/lancers everything else still had the generators, you sometimes wonder why ?? how ever 1961 saw alternators on all models.
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Posted 2019-09-27 3:56 AM (#588010 - in reply to #588006)
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58coronet - 2019-09-27 2:10 AM

The photo of the 1960 Imperial above with the two ladies, I thought 1960 Imperials were equipped with an alternator, like the Valiants, Lancers and 300F Special? Clearly that car has a generator.



When the 1960 models went into production only the US-built Valiant had the alternator as standard. By the end end of the model year all US-built Mopar cars had the alternator as standard. 1961 advertising was heavy with advertising on alternators.

In Canada the generator was standard through the 1962 model year (except for imported US-built models) and for 1963 all Canadian-built Mopar cars had the alternator as standard.

That Imperial photo was taken in the Imperial assembly plant on West Warren Avenue. Imperials were built there for the 1959 to 1961 model years. Previous to that the plant was part of the DeSoto Division and built DeSoto bodies (1950-1958) and DeSoto hemi V8 engines (1952-1957).

The Plymouth photos appear to be taken the Plymouth plant on Lynch Road.

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Posted 2019-09-27 4:52 AM (#588013 - in reply to #588006)
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58coronet - 2019-09-27 2:10 AM

The photo of the 1960 Imperial above with the two ladies, I thought 1960 Imperials were equipped with an alternator, like the Valiants, Lancers and 300F Special? Clearly that car has a generator.


The alternators were optional for 60 Imperials.
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Posted 2019-09-27 4:57 AM (#588014 - in reply to #588010)
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Chrycoman - 2019-09-27 3:56 AM

By the end end of the model year all US-built Mopar cars had the alternator as standard.


Calender year, yes. Model year? Not so sure. Anyone here with a 60 full-size unibody Mopar (expept Fs) that rolled off the assembly line with an alternator? I do not think so.
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Posted 2019-09-27 5:47 AM (#588018 - in reply to #588014)
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Posted 2019-09-27 12:20 PM (#588042 - in reply to #588014)
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1960fury - 2019-09-27 3:57 AM
Chrycoman - 2019-09-27 3:56 AM By the end end of the model year all US-built Mopar cars had the alternator as standard.
Calender year, yes. Model year? Not so sure. Anyone here with a 60 full-size unibody Mopar (expept Fs) that rolled off the assembly line with an alternator? I do not think so.

I had a 1960 Dodge Dart  Phoenix 2 - door with the 318 ci V-8 and Torqueflite automatic transmisson. It did not have an alternator; just a generator. It was not very good at keeping the battery charged and I often got stranded when the battery wouldn't have the power to turn over the engine. It's likely it needed to be rebuilt. The next car I had was a 1963 Dodge Dart 270 with the Slant six and automatic. That one had an alternator and it kept the battery fully charged all the time. Of course though, by 1963, Chrysler was putting alternators in all car lines as standard equipment.



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I initially thought I would have more trouble with my gernerators, but they have all worked fine for me. I don't really notice the difference between using a generator vs. an alternator - without extra add ons like new stereos etc.
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Powerflite - 2019-09-27 11:45 AM I initially thought I would have more trouble with my gernerators, but they have all worked fine for me. I don't really notice the difference between using a generator vs. an alternator - without extra add ons like new stereos etc.

That has been my experience with generator equipped cars as well. If the generator, voltage regulator, and associated wiring haarness are in good cxondition, they will do the job. If you do a lot of city driving with stop and go traffic though, you may find yourself having to recharge the battery regularly, as generators are poor at making current flow at low speeds.This is why I put an HD alternator from a 1972 Chrysler wagon in my 1958 De Soto. Keeps the batteery topped up no matter how fast or how slow I drive.





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I've had excellent service from my generator in my '58 Coronet as well, and have owned and driven it since 1976. Never had a low battery as a result of too much idling and discharging, and never had short battery life. If one watches the ammeter, and understands that it must spend more time in the charge range than the discharge range, all will be good.
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My two FLK cars, a '57 300C and a '60 Fury (2-dr H/T with the SonoRamic Commando), both of course have generators while my two '65s, a fuel-injected Vette (327 CID/375 HP) and a '65 Sport Fury (426-S/365 HP and 4-speed), both have alternators. Quite obviously, I cannot drive each as much as I would like, but I do like to get them out as much as possible. I have not really experienced any difficulty with low batteries or poor battery life with any, but I do have each hooked up to a cheap trickle charger which do seem to maintain the batteries quite well. Way back when, I had a very similar '60 Fury (from 1960 to 1964) and I never experienced any real battery problems with that big 383 even in that day and age with more primitive batteries.
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I think it is the first time I see a FL Imperial in an old picture without whitewalls. Looking at the pic, I think it would have been very cool if the roof section ahead of the canopy would have been green tinted glass.



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Posted 2019-09-29 9:50 AM (#588113 - in reply to #81647)
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1960fury - 2019-09-29 2:46 AM

I think it is the first time I see a FL Imperial in an old picture without whitewalls. Looking at the pic, I think it would have been very cool if the roof section ahead of the canopy would have been green tinted glass.


I agree Sid, I'm Chris, it looks like it doesn't have tinted glass anywhere. I have a '60 New Yorker 4 door hardtop that only has tint in the highback rear window. The blackwall tires definitely look out of place, wonder where this pic was taken.........
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Posted 2019-10-03 6:24 AM (#588341 - in reply to #588114)
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Posted 2019-10-03 9:00 PM (#588371 - in reply to #81647)
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Say, that photo with the '57 Chrysler single headlights, did they all have the pinch in the painted bezel
on either side of the headlamp? The Desoto does not, and I thought they were the same!
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Posted 2019-10-03 9:26 PM (#588372 - in reply to #588371)
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1957sotos - 2019-10-03 6:00 PM

Say, that photo with the '57 Chrysler single headlights, did they all have the pinch in the painted bezel
on either side of the headlamp? The Desoto does not, and I thought they were the same!


If the bean counters had been thinking, they would have been the same. BUT they weren't, at least not in 1957 for the dual (one per side) headlights:



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Posted 2019-10-04 5:32 AM (#588381 - in reply to #588372)
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Posted 2019-10-06 5:56 AM (#588467 - in reply to #588381)
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Posted 2019-10-07 9:48 PM (#588543 - in reply to #588467)
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Posted 2019-10-10 2:46 PM (#588662 - in reply to #588543)
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