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FURY
Posted 2016-12-13 10:46 PM (#528620 - in reply to #527080)
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand.		This is one of my favorite threads on this site, but what is with the emergence of all the "watermark" crap all over these nice old photos? Nobody wants to see that crap, and we aren't going to be paying you anything to see the photos once you have been paid to remove it...in case you were hoping..
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60crossram
Posted 2016-12-13 11:22 PM (#528623 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Layton, Utah		The "DESOTO" letters are not centered very well in the factory photo of the 61 Desoto that HEMI DAVE posted a few pictures ago. I see that a lot on 70 Challenger grills where people don't position the Challenger word or the R/T emblem correct. ???
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-13 11:34 PM (#528626 - in reply to #528623)
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60crossram - 2016-12-13 11:22 PM The "DESOTO" letters are not centered very well in the factory photo of the 61 Desoto that HEMI DAVE posted a few pictures ago. I see that a lot on 70 Challenger grills where people don't position the Challenger word or the R/T emblem correct. ???


I presume that you are joking. They look pretty centered to me

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Posted 2016-12-14 1:17 PM (#528678 - in reply to #528620)
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FURY - 2016-12-13 10:46 PM

This is one of my favorite threads on this site, but what is with the emergence of all the "watermark" crap all over these nice old photos? Nobody wants to see that crap, and we aren't going to be paying you anything to see the photos once you have been paid to remove it...in case you were hoping..


I can't speak for anyone else, but some of the photos I post have watermarks on them. I take a screen shot of them with my phone from eBay and post them, the sellers are the ones who put them on. I figure photos with watermarks are better than nothing?.....
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hemidave
Posted 2016-12-15 9:05 AM (#528756 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-15 11:36 PM (#528835 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-16 12:41 AM (#528842 - in reply to #81647)
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Doesn't it sort of look like the middle 4 letters are a bit higher than the outer two ? I might be seeing things. I probably should have said level. Sorry.  Desoto lives !



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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-16 1:32 AM (#528843 - in reply to #528842)
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60crossram - 2016-12-16 12:41 AM

Doesn't it sort of look like the middle 4 letters are a bit higher than the outer two ? I might be seeing things. I probably should have said level. Sorry.  Desoto lives !



I think what you are seeing is the letters are arranged in an arc based on the top of that upper grill rather than being in a straight level line based on the bottom of the upper grill.

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Posted 2016-12-16 8:51 AM (#528864 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-16 8:56 AM (#528865 - in reply to #528864)
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Posted 2016-12-16 9:26 AM (#528867 - in reply to #528843)
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56D500boy - 2016-12-16 12:32 AM
60crossram - 2016-12-16 12:41 AM

Doesn't it sort of look like the middle 4 letters are a bit higher than the outer two ? I might be seeing things. I probably should have said level. Sorry.  Desoto lives !

I think what you are seeing is the letters are arranged in an arc based on the top of that upper grill rather than being in a straight level line based on the bottom of the upper grill. :)

 

Correct-Designers probably liked the  overall look of naked grill, but may have failed to take into account that our brains have been trained to want type/text to be strasight and level.

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Posted 2016-12-16 9:40 AM (#528869 - in reply to #528867)
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Doesn't it sort of look like the middle 4 letters are a bit higher than the outer two ? I might be seeing things. I probably should have said level. Sorry.  Desoto lives !

I think what you are seeing is the letters are arranged in an arc based on the top of that upper grill rather than being in a straight level line based on the bottom of the upper grill. :)

 

Correct-Designers probably liked the  overall look of naked grill, but may have failed to take into account that our brains have been trained to want type/text to be strasight and level.


Look close and you might agree with me that only the letter "S" is a bit out of line/arc and that is due to what I believe is installed upside down. I've seen this on other DeSotos as well. Might be wrong but........


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Ray
Posted 2016-12-16 10:06 AM (#528873 - in reply to #81647)
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According to the lower grill, the original image is fairly square. 

"…the carvers, at least for the most part, do not wish to take the care to pay attention and being little accustomed to straight shapes and parallels, they neglect all that is not their ART…"

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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-16 12:45 PM (#528889 - in reply to #528873)
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Ray - 2016-12-16 10:06 AM
According to the lower grill, the original image is fairly square.


Agree. I believe that the intention was to have the letters arranged in a perfectly symmetrical arc. HOWEVER, the spacing of the holes in the mesh and the location of the pins/studs on the back of the letters did not let it work out as planned. I am sure that no one but a true Forward Looker would notice the lack of symmetry.

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Posted 2016-12-16 1:35 PM (#528891 - in reply to #528889)
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There certainly is no lack of symmetry regarding the young lady in repose on the tail end of that Dodge.......whew!......
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Posted 2016-12-16 2:52 PM (#528896 - in reply to #528889)
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... the spacing of the holes in the mesh and the location of the pins/studs on the back of the letters did not let it work out as planned. I am sure that no one but a true Forward Looker would notice the lack of symmetry. :)

This seems to explain the inconsistancy in the intended arc. Good catch.



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Posted 2016-12-16 3:09 PM (#528899 - in reply to #528896)
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Ray - 2016-12-16 2:52 PM
This seems to explain the inconsistency in the intended arc. Good catch.


The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men, Gang aft agley, Robert Burns, "To a Mouse, on Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough", aka "Tae a Moose" 1785

(The best laid schemes of mice and men, Go often askew)

Umm..., yup, sometimes they sure do. (Not for lack of trying)



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Posted 2016-12-16 4:45 PM (#528902 - in reply to #528899)
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56D500boy - 2016-12-16 12:09 PM

Ray - 2016-12-16 2:52 PM
This seems to explain the inconsistency in the intended arc. Good catch.


The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men, Gang aft agley, Robert Burns, "To a Mouse, on Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough", aka "Tae a Moose" 1785

(The best laid schemes of mice and men, Go often askew)

Umm..., yup, sometimes they sure do. (Not for lack of trying)


Dinna tell me there's anither body here that kens the guid Scots Tung!! ;-)
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Posted 2016-12-16 4:57 PM (#528903 - in reply to #528902)
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imopar380 - 2016-12-16 4:45 PM
Dinna tell me there's anither body here that kens the guid Scots Tung!! ;-)


Och, Aye, laddie.

Dave Forgie = Ferguson => Fergie => Forgie

Ayrshire/Glasgow area roots (great grandfather buried in Patna, grandfather born in Scotland, father born in Regina)

But I can't do a good Scottish accent for my life.
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Posted 2016-12-16 6:47 PM (#528915 - in reply to #528903)
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Dinna tell me there's anither body here that kens the guid Scots Tung!! ;-)


Och, Aye, laddie.

Dave Forgie = Ferguson => Fergie => Forgie

Ayrshire/Glasgow area roots (great grandfather buried in Patna, grandfather born in Scotland, father born in Regina)

But I can't do a good Scottish accent for my life. :bleh:


My mither was born in the Borders / Galashiels area, the grandfowk wis fae Ayrshire and Perthshire. I grew up here listenin tae them speak broad Scots.
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Posted 2016-12-17 10:26 AM (#528957 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-17 11:15 AM (#528964 - in reply to #528873)
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Regarding the placement of those DeSoto letters, they probably were put on by use of the Mark I Eyeball. The SonoRamic Commando scare badges are about a half-inch horizontally and three-quarters of an inch vertically.
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Posted 2016-12-17 11:40 AM (#528968 - in reply to #528964)
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Sonoramic60 - 2016-12-17 11:15 AM Lads -- Regarding the placement of those DeSoto letters, they probably were put on by use of the Mark I Eyeball. The SonoRamic Commando scare badges are about a half-inch horizontally and three-quarters of an inch vertically. Joe


I knew about ram charging on the 300's but being a FL Noob, I had to research "scare badges":



The same “SonoRamic Commando Power” badges (or, as they were called in the ’60s, “scare emblems”) were used in both 1960 and 1961. In 1960, it was placed on both front quarter panels just forward of the front door opening; in 1961 only one was used, on the right lower corner of the rear deck lid. Some were installed at the factory and some shipped in the car to be installed by the dealer (occasionally, the buyer would prefer it left off, thus turning it into a “sleeper”). The specific position was established by application of a loose template or even a Mark I Eyeball. On Joe’s car, the gold emblem is 17 1/2” above the rocker panel and two inches forward of the door opening on the driver’s side; on the passenger’s side, the chrome “SonoRamic Commando” bar is 2 1/2” forward of the door opening while the gold swoosh is only 17” above the rocker panel.

REFERENCE: http://www.allpar.com/mopar/sonoramic.html

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Posted 2016-12-18 8:56 AM (#529027 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-18 9:41 AM (#529030 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-18 2:24 PM (#529052 - in reply to #529033)
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Posted 2016-12-18 5:50 PM (#529078 - in reply to #529033)
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59 Desoto Adventurer Can. Bro. Pg.


This brochure picture along with tons of others are shown on the site below which is really great! See it for yourself and you might even be able to find your first car! I did mine plus many others that were of significant interest to me.
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html
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Posted 2016-12-18 9:25 PM (#529104 - in reply to #397692)
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Does this look better/more authentic..?
Not sure where that original shot was grabbed from but I would never submit something photoshopped and pretend it to be original. My partner Michelle doctored the original which was taken on the way back from a car show in 2013. My 57 Fury on the end, Luke Nola's 60 Imperial, Phil Burnie's 57 Desoto and John Parker's 58 Fury.
Glenn.

D500Jim - 2013-09-15 7:34 PM

OldiesNut - 2013-09-12 5:02 PM Wait just a sec... You don't suppose this might be a Photoshop job, do you? Those FLs seem mighty... clear. Besides, who has a plate that reads '58Fury' in 1960? :laugh:

 

Very nice! Same angel as the postcard: http://dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/AZNogalesElDoradoMotorH...

Thank you very much !!!

 

 



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Posted 2016-12-19 9:30 AM (#529138 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-20 8:37 AM (#529260 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-20 10:45 AM (#529270 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-20 7:30 PM (#529342 - in reply to #529300)
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Posted 2016-12-21 1:08 AM (#529376 - in reply to #529373)
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hemidenis - 2016-12-21 12:40 AM Only one???


No. There is at least the dark coloured 56 Plymouth (Savoy? Plaza?) headed in the opposite direction on the right side of the photo.

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hemidenis - 2016-12-21 12:40 AM Only one???


No. There is at least the dark coloured 56 Plymouth (Savoy? Plaza?) headed in the opposite direction on the right side of the photo.

:)


and of course the 59 dodge
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Only one???


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Looks like a 60 Dodge at the far right, between the 59 Olds and the 58 Ford wagon
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Ray Bell
Posted 2016-12-24 3:20 AM (#529676 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia		The rear of the Plainsman is all Australian-designed...

So is the front, copying the later Plymouth but made entirely in Australia. Even the tail lights are unique to the Australian Chrysler Royal, Chrysler Wayfarer and Chrysler Plainsman and were made, IIRC, by Lucas.
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hemidave
Posted 2016-12-24 8:01 AM (#529685 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2016-12-24 9:28 AM (#529687 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Alaska		I have to laugh, obviously in the mid 60's. Look at the young men's pants, I remember that fad well. Your pants had to be "pegged" so small in diameter that they would barely fit over your ankles.
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Chrycoman
Posted 2016-12-24 10:51 AM (#529689 - in reply to #81647)
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In regards to the Plainsman, Plymouth did not have a 4 door wagon in 1953-54 - they were all 2 door models. Thus Chrysler Australia took their 4 door sedan and modified it. As stated earlier, the section behind the doors was done in, and was unique to, Australia. Note the rear door on Plainsman is the same design as the 4 door sedan on the 1954 Plymouth.

The front fenders and taillights could be the same as those used in North America, but made in Australia. Would need to check the part numbers on them. Lucas may have made the taillights, but Lucas would have built them to Chrysler specifications. Even in the U.S., Chrysler used (and still uses) outside suppliers for parts and has never built all the parts used in a car.

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hemidave
Posted 2016-12-25 8:42 AM (#529724 - in reply to #81647)
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