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hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3903 Location: Northen Virginia | ?? (11816342_924851770893916_6329732707144523589_o.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 11816342_924851770893916_6329732707144523589_o.jpg (54KB - 132 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | I'd love to see that in person. The proportions came out nice, very similar to the pony car look. | ||
Beltran |
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Expert Posts: 1730 Location: Michigan | It's up here in Michigan. Won several awards. Featured in the Mopar display during the woodward dream cruise a few years ago. Pretty cool car actually. Some don't like it but I appreciate the work that went into it. | ||
Beltran |
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Expert Posts: 1730 Location: Michigan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfTTv6fgi1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOB9UOk3a8E Edited by Beltran 2015-07-31 7:00 PM | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7498 Location: northern germany | in my book the work that went into it makes it even worse. so much time and money spent just to create a clowns car. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | It's too short, for its width. And, its wheels are too large, for the car's dimensions. But, it's a Helluva CLOWN car. Bozo would be proud. | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | Actually, it's wheel size was 50 years ahead of it's time. Have you seen what people are putting on their cars and trucks (that never leave the pavement) these days? | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I'm sorry, Jim, but what is your point? "Good taste is never extreme" (unless you love 1959 Sport Furys)..... This thing is a monument to the Almighty Dollar....and what it can buy or provide. | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | It's been around a while. Jim, those wheel were only put on it in modern times, not 50 years ago. It's sort of an exercise in group masturbation.... if you read an article on the car a lot of very talented 'friends' got together and made it happen. In other words, throw gobs of money at something so you can sit around later and brag about how you and your buddies did it. | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3903 Location: Northen Virginia | the front fender and the rear door seems to the right dimension, the fin it is short too, and of course the width the car... | ||
Myke |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1110 Location: Tulare Ca | I can Appreciate the craftsman ship that went into it, but beyond that, nothng else. it just looks horribly disfigured to me. but thats just me | ||
KcImperial |
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Expert Posts: 2490 Location: Kansas City, KS | Denis, you are about 5 years late to this party http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30224&star... Personally, I it's fantastic! The craftsmanship and creativity are amazing. My favorite details about this customization is that it also fixes some of the things that always bothered me about '59s such as the goofy stock headlamp location, and boring stock instrument panel. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | ACTUALLY.....the 1959 Imperial dashboard has my favorite FWDLK design and execution! LOVE its appearance. and I'm not saying that, merely to fan any flame(rs)....out there. The 59 IMP dashboard has a great appearance and presence. Edited by d500neil 2015-07-31 9:27 PM | ||
KcImperial |
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Expert Posts: 2490 Location: Kansas City, KS | Neil, I can understand why you like the stock 1959 instrument panel. It always reminded me of a Dodge or DeSoto with that horizontal speedometer. I think there's a reason why it was only used for one year and then in 1960 they reverted to a style similar to 1957/1958 | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Yeah, but....the 59 IMP speedo housing reminds me of Robbie the Robot, or a jukebox...gotta admit that the 1957-type twin dashboard nacelles look too grossly common, and un-refined; big, for the sake of big-ness, in an Imperial...but, the IMP's dashboard designer(s) apparently thought differently, and over the course of relatively many years. The appearance and operation of the 59 IMP dash appears to be more refined, and classy, than the other FWDLK dashes. Edited by d500neil 2015-08-01 2:56 AM | ||
Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | I'd like to see it in person. Appreciate the work, but something just looks off. For the amount of work I think something cooler could have been done. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7498 Location: northern germany | jimntempe - 2015-07-31 8:06 PM Actually, it's wheel size was 50 years ahead of it's time. Have you seen what people are putting on their cars and trucks (that never leave the pavement) these days? correct "50 years ahead of it's time" to me, this is not a good thing. | ||
57chizler |
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Expert Posts: 3802 Location: NorCal | As is the case so often lately, the wheels ruin it for me. | ||
60crossram |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 836 Location: Layton, Utah | I think the craftsmanship is amazing ! Never liked the 59 instrument cluster. The only things wrong about it to me, 1- The quarter panels need to be 8-12 inches longer to match the front fenders. 2- It would look better with chrome wire wheels. 3- The windshield needs to be a few inches taller and the chrome upper windshield support need to be there. Other than that it's bitchin. But who am I to complain, I could probably never do one like this this nice. DeSoto lives !!! | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5054 | they chopped up a 4 door. I think it is off a bit.. I would think you would want it balanced perfectly with putting that much money in it. Its close but from the pics it looks off. http://www.rodauthority.com/news/pfaff-designs-unveils-the-59-imper... | ||
FwdLk56 |
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Location: Indiana | this guy/"designer" is also the guy behind the '71 'Cuda used in the "Fast & Furious" movies that recently sold for over $300k... not sure if that is a "record" for 'Cuda's, but i suspect it probably is... yeah, to ME anyway, this "designer" is *ALL* about the MONEY... (showme.jpg) Attachments ---------------- showme.jpg (57KB - 130 downloads) | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2309 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | This is what it looked like at the Good Guys Hot Rod Show in Columbus, OH in 2011. Amazing body work and attention to detail. I don't care much for the wheels - they look too much like J.C. Whitney wire rim wheel covers (which were a popular customizing touch on 1970s GM barges) but the overall effect is not bad. That front end is dripping in chrome and seems a tad garish, but that was what the 50s were all about I guess. (1957 Imperial Custom 1.jpg) (1957 Imperial Custom 2.jpg) (1957 Imperial Custom 3.jpg) (1957 Imperial Custom 4.jpg) (1957 Imperial Custom 5.jpg) (1957 Imperial Custom 6.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1957 Imperial Custom 1.jpg (135KB - 147 downloads) 1957 Imperial Custom 2.jpg (140KB - 128 downloads) 1957 Imperial Custom 3.jpg (137KB - 147 downloads) 1957 Imperial Custom 4.jpg (168KB - 117 downloads) 1957 Imperial Custom 5.jpg (98KB - 125 downloads) 1957 Imperial Custom 6.jpg (168KB - 136 downloads) | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | I'd prefer it with chrome wheels, the orange just seems out of place. That said, I'd be reluctant to criticize it much given it's a one-off. At some point the designer has to "do the metal" and he too may have looked at the final product and said "Gee, perhaps another two inches here or there would have made it better" but what's done is done. I will appreciate it for what it is, which is a very unique creation that blends FL with Pony Car and IMHO does it pretty darn well. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5054 | d500neil - 2015-07-31 7:12 PM It's too short, for its width. And, its wheels are too large, for the car's dimensions. But, it's a Helluva CLOWN car. Bozo would be proud. sorry I have to whole heartedly agree... I mean admire the craftsmanship and effort all you want... in the end its a clown car. A really really well done clown car, but they turned an imperial into a clown car... I kind of know, I kind of build customs I wouldn't custom a car that should be restored(due to condition) or that are rare and I certainly would do the job right, not half ass it. But I understand why it turned out like that.. and its due to laziness... yes that's right I said laziness. basically this is how it went down... "hey guys whats a cool project for sema?(insert show here) people are sick of Caddies chopped and customized... Lincoln? nah.. yeah lets do an imperial! it will be cool and rare! and well win awards and stuff!.. yeah but which one? Well lets go 58, its great looking and popular, okay lets go get one! " now they could gotten a coupe and chopped it up slightly but they didn't... But they got a 4 door... and then what did they do? Stupidly they cut the front doors off and kept the back of the car and the back doors because they had that hump... then they even more lazily cut the roof off. Slapped some orange rims on and meh.... a clown car... and here you have my lazy mans clown car imperial custom! that poor imperial... ($_1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- $_1.jpg (125KB - 132 downloads) | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | Fair enough, but the guys who did this car had plenty of resources on hand to CAD it up before they cut any metal. I'd be curious, more than anything, as to how the car actually drives. I've never cared one bit about how a car looks - especially a modded car - if it doesn't drive well. Is it quiet where it's supposed to be quiet? Does it take corners well? Is it jittery on the highway? Stuff like that is usually what gets overlooked, yet it's a very important aspect of ANY car. It'd be like parading around your knockout girlfriend and hoping nobody finds out behind closed doors she turns into Rosie O'Donnel. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5054 | okay lets fire up more fun! Benny Hill music please! (5562224a26a46ee36e7eb78a1c709884.jpg) (shortycaravan_02_resized.jpg) (shorty.jpg) (0110vwt_08zoom+Volkswagen_Bus+Wheelie.jpg) (Shortened_57_Chevy.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 5562224a26a46ee36e7eb78a1c709884.jpg (87KB - 125 downloads) shortycaravan_02_resized.jpg (63KB - 131 downloads) shorty.jpg (51KB - 125 downloads) 0110vwt_08zoom+Volkswagen_Bus+Wheelie.jpg (51KB - 124 downloads) Shortened_57_Chevy.jpg (36KB - 131 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 Location: Perth Australia | The combi and the voyager at least have an acceptable roof line To me, the imperial needed to be made skinnier as well, looking from the top, down, it looks too square Brilliant work though, but not a fan The roof on that 57 chev looks like the terrible roof profiles you see on cars they try to turn into utes, just terrible | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I've seen MUCH more-poorly executed roof-and-body designs and construction, on these truncated (pun intended) cars, than is presented on this particular 1957 Chubbie, above. Looking critically at it, the door-and-roof lines could be a little bit longer, for visual balance, but, overall, the car's profile is not ungainly or particularly clown-car looking. My compliments to its creator, for having made something, out of nothing.... Words to DRIVE by: Edited by d500neil 2015-08-02 8:38 PM (PICT5291.JPG) Attachments ---------------- PICT5291.JPG (155KB - 147 downloads) | ||
GSP392 |
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Veteran Posts: 209 Location: The Republic of Texas | I saw in in Toronto last year. It had a full size Imperial next to it. I admire the craftsmanship and hours spent on it, but it's not what I would have done. Each to his own. I also have an autographed poster of this car. Edited by GSP392 2015-08-02 9:07 PM | ||
jimntempe |
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mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5054 | that corvair works much better. | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | The 60's and early 70's saw a lot of that stuff - cars customized/modified to the extreme in an effort to be wacky. It was kinda cool then....but in 2015 it's much harder to pull it off. Same goes for bell bottom jeans.... | ||
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Expert Posts: 2309 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Here's a 1968-70 VW Type 2 microbus that has been given the clown car treatment. It was in a Michigan shop that I visited in 2012 as part of the WPC Club National Meet. The mural is a nice touch. (Clown car VW Type 2 -1.jpg) (Clown car VW Type 2 -3.jpg) (Clown car VW Type 2 -4.jpg) (Clown car VW Type 2 -2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Clown car VW Type 2 -1.jpg (134KB - 140 downloads) Clown car VW Type 2 -3.jpg (128KB - 146 downloads) Clown car VW Type 2 -4.jpg (146KB - 122 downloads) Clown car VW Type 2 -2.jpg (134KB - 110 downloads) | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | I bet that VW can turn on a dime. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Yeah; and whether its driver wants to do that, or not... | ||
jimntempe |
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Expert Posts: 2312 Location: Arizona | You sneeze and the next thing you know you are heading thru the DriveThru at McDonalds!! | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5054 | and then 30 people climb out of it with big shoes.... | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | 'Unsafe at Any Speed' | ||
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