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Chrome58 |
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Expert Posts: 1316 Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels | Hello everyone, I'm in the market for a new starter for my 318. The one I have is either too weak (it's a 6 cylinder model) or too worn. Either way, it won't crank enough to start the engine cold. I found this one on eBay : http://www.ebay.com/itm/281928883577 Has anyone tried it ? Do you have other suggestions ? Thanks. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9883 Location: So. Cal | Hot Heads also sells a couple of them, one aftermarket version like what you show but for more $$, and another remanufactured stock one for less than half the cost. | ||
Chrome58 |
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Expert Posts: 1316 Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels | These ones ? http://www.hothemiheads.com/transmission_adapters/starter_replaceme... They say it bolts on Chrysler, Dodge and DeSoto. I wonder why not on Plymouth ? | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9883 Location: So. Cal | Hot Heads doesn't sell to Plymouth so they don't mention them, but they should be the same. | ||
mstrug |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6552 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | Poly starters are not normal starters. http://www.moparmall.com/Starter-For-1957-1959-Plymouth-Dodge-w-L6-... You can search Chrysler marine CW V8 too!. I had to cut an ear off one, but it was rebuilt and cost $49. http://www.boatstore.com/chrysler-318-marine-v8-cw-description-rema... http://www.wmjmarine.com/arc-50109.html Edited by mstrug 2016-07-02 4:06 PM (polystarter.jpg) (polymarinevsinbdstarter.jpg) Attachments ---------------- polystarter.jpg (34KB - 130 downloads) polymarinevsinbdstarter.jpg (5KB - 131 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9883 Location: So. Cal | This probably doesn't help, but there was no difference between the '56 277 poly starter and the '56 354 hemi starter. | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 Location: Perth Australia | Just remember, there is poly and then there is "A" poly, the 56 one may be the poly that can be changed to a hemi, the "A" poly cant be. The early poly that was like a hemi wasnt used in plymouths, its also called "the dodge poly" This is mostly what I have remembered from stuff I have read on this site, and my memory is not always perfect though The "A" poly starter is not available here in Aus (at least I couldnt find one) I didnt try to hard to find specific parts, but you should be able to still get the "wearing" parts to rebuild it or (sometimes) find a starter that suits something else and just have to swap the nose cone (did that with my buick) Good luck, Mark is on the money with those links above, but check rotation on the marine stuff, sometimes they make the engines run backwards | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9883 Location: So. Cal | That is why I told you it was a 277 poly. That is the first A poly motor in '56, not the hemi based version. So it is the same as the 318. | ||
udoittwo |
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Expert Posts: 1351 Location: Valley Forge, Pa. | Because the solenoid on my Pontiac GTO was so close to the exhaust, I was dropping the starter once a year and many times in some parking lot late night. I went with one of those starters and never touched it again. IF you can find one that fits, I would go for it and I would take the old one and get it rebuilt for a spare. These new ones are nice and weigh 1/3 or 1/4 the weight of the cast iron ones + more room to work up there. Your current one might just need a good cleaning and new brushes are available that should fix it up for a spare. I THINK bushings are available also but I had a friend make mine in his machine shop. I like to have a new or rebuilt spare of any parts like that because it is getting harder to find a replacement without searching and waitng. | ||
Chrome58 |
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Expert Posts: 1316 Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels | Powerflite - 2016-07-02 6:08 PM Hot Heads doesn't sell to Plymouth so they don't mention them, but they should be the same. Actually, those are Powermaster XSTorque starter. So I went and took a look at their catalog and application charts. They are only listed for "Early Hemi" applications, so I guess that's why Plymouth is not listed. udoittwo - 2016-07-03 2:20 PM I went with one of those starters and never touched it again. IF you can find one that fits, I would go for it and I would take the old one and get it rebuilt for a spare. I think that's what I'll do. udoittwo - 2016-07-03 2:20 PM Your current one might just need a good cleaning and new brushes are available that should fix it up for a spare. I THINK bushings are available also but I had a friend make mine in his machine shop. I like to have a new or rebuilt spare of any parts like that because it is getting harder to find a replacement without searching and waitng. Actually, I kinda restored it before putting it back (good cleaning, and new brushes if I remember correctly). But there's obviously something wrong with it (apart the fact that it's a MDM-6001, which is listed only for 6 cylinder applications). I do have a new and stronger NOS starter core from Autolite, but I doubt I can do something with it (the starter core being the axle and its coil). Edited by Chrome58 2016-07-04 6:01 AM | ||
Chrome58 |
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Expert Posts: 1316 Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels | Finally, the problem was not the starter, but rather the distributor timing. She starts just fine, now. | ||
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