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hemidenis
Posted 2021-03-22 8:38 AM (#610228)
Subject: 61 413 fuel pump question



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I have a $154 Edelbrock fuel pump that quit last night, apparently it is not a repair kit for it, so it is a very expensive disposable item. I probably did 500 miles to it but spent a long time sleeping in the car, since i don't use it that much. Fortunately I had an electric pump back up who brought me back home.

I see that they are $20 pumps at rock auto, any idea if they are any good? Specially for cars are not been used daily like mine.



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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-22 11:56 AM (#610232 - in reply to #610228)
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Those cheap replacement pumps work fine. The only issues with them is their looks, and when they fail, they can leak fuel into the engine and potentially cause damage that way.
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christine-lover
Posted 2021-03-22 3:12 PM (#610242 - in reply to #610228)
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My 61 NYer has one of those cheaper replacements. Runs fine, been on there maybe 10-15 years. Bought a 2769S core that I’ll install sometime. Who sells fuel pump rebuild kits? Denis, could you check your NYer, is there a spacer under the carburetor? I installed a 3134S over the weekend and dialed it in. But with just a thin gasket it didn’t mount flush with the intake. Either there should be a spacer or the heads of the bolts for the choke are too tall. Someone had installed an incorrect looking spacer and thicker gaskets.
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wizard
Posted 2021-03-22 3:21 PM (#610243 - in reply to #610228)
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I've bought a couple of Airtex pumps for other US cars and they have not given any grief yet.

One Chevelle SS owner requried specially the Edelbrock pump. I noticed that it did not give full capacity, but it still works, BUT that car has not been drive 500 miles yet......
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Apollo 61
Posted 2021-03-22 10:49 PM (#610260 - in reply to #610243)
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Not to change subject,but I've been looking for a BB mopar feul pump that has the glass bowl on it.
Anyone ever seen one on a BB mopar? Did they even make one for BB mopar?
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christine-lover
Posted 2021-03-23 10:11 AM (#610275 - in reply to #610260)
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Apollo 61 - 2021-03-22 10:49 PM

Not to change subject,but I've been looking for a BB mopar feul pump that has the glass bowl on it.
Anyone ever seen one on a BB mopar? Did they even make one for BB mopar?


The M2662S pump utilized a glass bowl on the bottom, used in 1958 and I think 1959 as well.
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hemidenis
Posted 2021-03-23 4:27 PM (#610286 - in reply to #610242)
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christine-lover - 2021-03-22 3:12 PM

My 61 NYer has one of those cheaper replacements. Runs fine, been on there maybe 10-15 years. Bought a 2769S core that I’ll install sometime. Who sells fuel pump rebuild kits? Denis, could you check your NYer, is there a spacer under the carburetor? I installed a 3134S over the weekend and dialed it in. But with just a thin gasket it didn’t mount flush with the intake. Either there should be a spacer or the heads of the bolts for the choke are too tall. Someone had installed an incorrect looking spacer and thicker gaskets.




Thanks a lot guys, I already order one of those carter pumps. yes the looks sucks but what are you going to do. I still have the original and another NOS but the idea of Ethanol in a 60 year old rubber it is just not appalling to me.

Matt, it is a company selling kits, it was recommended by Ron in another post...No it was not special gasket on my carb except the regular grey one. The studs are pretty short for adding a Bakelite gasket in there. I'm running and Edelbrock carb and is working fine.

https://www.then-now-auto.com

check them out!
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christine-lover
Posted 2021-03-23 8:37 PM (#610294 - in reply to #610286)
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Thanks Denis!
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hemidenis
Posted 2021-03-24 10:17 PM (#610331 - in reply to #610228)
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pump is here, lets see when I can install it...BTW it is made in Korea and Korean stuff are usually pretty good.



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60 dart
Posted 2021-03-24 11:50 PM (#610332 - in reply to #610228)
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whats the mod# of your edelbrock pump ------------------------------------------later
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57chizler
Posted 2021-03-25 1:23 PM (#610349 - in reply to #610228)
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I believe the Edelbrock pump is just a copy of the old Carter 3-valve pump. One of these might work:

https://www.manciniracing.com/camefupureki.html
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wizard
Posted 2021-03-25 1:42 PM (#610350 - in reply to #610228)
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That's very plausible since the Edelbrock carbs is a Carter copy, even nozzles and needles interchange...
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hemidenis
Posted 2021-03-27 12:42 AM (#610409 - in reply to #610228)
Subject: Re: 61 413 fuel pump question



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Hi Guys,

Chuck: Product Id: EDL-1723
Thanks for the link John I'm going to take it apart and check.

reply from summit racing

Hello Denis,
Unfortunately, Edelbrock does not make any rebuild kits for their mechanical pumps. You will likely have to purchase a new one.
We appreciate your business
Thank you,

Summit Racing Equipment

Customer By CSS Email (Denis) (03/22/2021 08:32 AM)

Product Id: EDL-1723
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wizard
Posted 2021-03-27 3:33 AM (#610415 - in reply to #610228)
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So, if You buy a Kit for a Carter, will it fit?
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hemidenis
Posted 2021-03-27 9:13 AM (#610418 - in reply to #610228)
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well Sven, the kit cost almost $70 too, apparently buying this generic Carter pump seems the most affordable option.

Now, restoring an original pump is a matter of try and error as far i can see.
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wizard
Posted 2021-03-27 11:58 AM (#610421 - in reply to #610228)
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I have only renovated Olds dual action pumps (vaccin and fuel) recently Denis. The kits was expensive and still needed some work. The pumps works very nice through.

You're right $70 plus the work is too high
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