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196061SAVOY
Posted 2015-03-06 7:08 PM (#471840)
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studebaker 15" wheels from the early 60's will fit, they will except the large 10" dog dish hubcaps, bolt patterns the same ,  i inquired in a studebaker club, parts wanted section, those studebaker men are Aokay in my book, guy up in eastern canada sold me 2 perfect perfect  15" wheels for 10 bucks each and 54 to ship,  WOW!  thats whats lacking in this hobby,  everyone is trying to rip off everyone,  next time you see an old studebaker haulin ass, give him a thumbs up!!



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mstrug
Posted 2015-03-06 8:45 PM (#471849 - in reply to #471840)
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good Idea! Do some of them have slots or cooling holes? I plan on disc brakes and will want 15" wheels I know later Mopar wheels have some sort of slot to allow air to pass thru. I will be using wheel covers that are ventilated and match 1958 Belvedere caps. marc.

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196061SAVOY
Posted 2015-03-07 6:20 AM (#471878 - in reply to #471840)
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<p>that's correct, bob mosher , out in sunny cal, runs the Studebaker 15", on his early 60's max wedge mopars ,and they all run disc up front , look the same as orig   { moparmax super stock broker mosher muscle car motors shop tour}  google this theres a story on mosher and his stuff</p>

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57chizler
Posted 2015-03-07 2:50 PM (#471914 - in reply to #471840)
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The Stude 15" wheels that I've had were only 4" wide, great for the skinny front tires favored by drag racers but not very practical for larger tires.
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196061SAVOY
Posted 2015-03-07 6:30 PM (#471930 - in reply to #471840)
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<p>SIR , who cares, ride it like u stole it!! iv had no problems at all running them on my 60/61 savoy, 65 442 4 speed,  that will smoke those tires up, bob runs them on his max wedge cars now and back in the real world , all pure stock drag racing( if u know what that is) are required to race with bias ply, iv found no issues what so ever, but then again I run lucas general bias ply black walls, maybe its those gay cheap radial coker white walls that may give some a problem , if your  (generaly speaking)   not running bias ply, why run at all</p>

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-12-26 12:09 AM (#575818 - in reply to #471930)
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I sold all 5 of my '56 Plymouth 15" wheels to a max wedge guy that takes them to a rim shop and welds wider hoops to the original centers. Pretty good idea. If I had known of a good shop to do that, I would have kept them to do the same thing.
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Posted 2018-12-26 9:08 AM (#575825 - in reply to #471840)
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I've had new wider "hoops" put on to original centers by Stockton Wheel in CA.
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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 10:11 AM (#575828 - in reply to #471840)
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Kurt McKim does mine. Shop is in Iowa, McWheels. Now the "Wheelguy" is selling the centers that take the large 66 and earlier dogdish.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-12-26 10:28 AM (#575834 - in reply to #471840)
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Are the centers sold by the Wheel Guy new pressings or old centers he has scavenged?
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GaryS
Posted 2018-12-26 10:30 AM (#575835 - in reply to #471840)
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Many half-ton seventies Dodges had 15" wheels, and there should be a glut of them, though I'm not sure if the truck poverty caps are the same size as the car. I'm quite sure the lug spacing is the same as the cars.

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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 3:17 PM (#575849 - in reply to #471840)
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They are new stampings.
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Posted 2018-12-26 4:07 PM (#575850 - in reply to #471840)
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These are what I got from the salvage yard near me. Off of a late 70's B-100 van. Uses the small center cap. I have not tried the older poverty caps on them. 15x6.5 i believe, 5x4.5 bolt pattern.



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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 6:26 PM (#575856 - in reply to #471840)
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The 66 and earlier wheels use the bigger hubcap. The problem with those wheels besides being somewhat hard to find is they have trouble clearing disc brakes. Until I did some grinding they rubbed on my AAJ combo on my 58 Plymouth, they rode the caliper on my 65 Coronet using the "Disco-Tech" method from Mopar Action using A body spindles on the early B body. Both times was with 15's. Hopefully the Wheelmans centers wont have that issue. The MaxWedge guys are the reason for this repop
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2019-02-17 10:15 AM (#578322 - in reply to #471840)
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By the way, what's the stock back spacing of the original 1960 Chrysler 14" rims/wheels? I assume to change to 15" rims/wheels the back spacing should be more or less the same.

It's because Im opting to 15" rims/wheels as well for my Letter....

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Posted 2019-02-17 10:56 AM (#578326 - in reply to #471840)
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Backspacing always depends on wheel width, offset doesn't. The stock offset is 1/4". The '60 Chrysler wheels are 6" wide so they would have a backspacing of 3.75". But I have found on my '58 Coronet that if you go to a wide 8" wheel in the rear, you need to put the offset to zero to make it fit well.
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Posted 2019-02-17 12:08 PM (#578333 - in reply to #578326)
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Powerflite - 2019-02-17 10:56 AM

Backspacing always depends on wheel width, offset doesn't. The stock offset is 1/4". The '60 Chrysler wheels are 6" wide so they would have a backspacing of 3.75". But I have found on my '58 Coronet that if you go to a wide 8" wheel in the rear, you need to put the offset to zero to make it fit well.


All the 60/61 wheels (Plymouth/Desoto 14") I ever measured had all a 1/2 offset.
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Posted 2019-02-17 4:11 PM (#578339 - in reply to #471840)
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I owned a 72 Dodge D100 that had 16" wheels that were 5x41/2" These looked like a factory stock wheel but must have been an option.
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Posted 2019-03-04 7:47 AM (#578851 - in reply to #471840)
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Thanks a lot for your answer related to the offset/back spacing. I plan to run 6" wide rims, but 15" diameter. Could be that I'm going to aim to 15" rims that will accept 14" hub caps.

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1960fury
Posted 2019-03-14 8:19 PM (#579333 - in reply to #578333)
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Powerflite - 2019-02-17 10:56 AM

Backspacing always depends on wheel width, offset doesn't. The stock offset is 1/4". The '60 Chrysler wheels are 6" wide so they would have a backspacing of 3.75". But I have found on my '58 Coronet that if you go to a wide 8" wheel in the rear, you need to put the offset to zero to make it fit well.


All the 60/61 wheels (Plymouth/Desoto 14") I ever measured had all a 1/2 offset.


As I'm about to order a set of custom made rims, I just measured all the OE wheels I have and yes, I measured it right 20+ years ago. All wheels are +1/2" offset.

Offset is important. You can't just add any rim that fits. It affects handling and the wrong (mostly positive) offset affects the scrub radius and therefore handling and bump-steer.

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Powerflite
Posted 2019-03-14 10:25 PM (#579357 - in reply to #471840)
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But...if you go with a taller wheel, you want a little less offset so that the scrub radius remains in the same spot. The opposite for smaller wheels.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-03-15 9:40 AM (#579365 - in reply to #579357)
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Powerflite - 2019-03-14 10:25 PM

But...if you go with a taller wheel, you want a little less offset so that the scrub radius remains in the same spot. The opposite for smaller wheels.


I personally hate the hot wheels look or giant rims and tire diameter should remain about the same. I also like the lowered look and with taller wheels this harder to accomplish as even with stock wheels, in the front you run out of adjustment very soon.

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Posted 2019-03-15 10:54 AM (#579369 - in reply to #471840)
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Makes me wonder if we talk about the same thing? I get 0,395" (10mm) when I measure

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Rim 14X6 bolt circle 5x4,50” (114,3mm) Offset ET+10 (180mm external width (152,4mm/6” internal width) divided by 2 = 90. Rim edge to abutment = 100 mm. 100 minus 90 = 10 mm positiv.


Measuring the ET
Measure the rim width (C)
Measure from the backside rim edge to the abutment (mounting surface against the hub) (B)
Subtract B with half of the rim width, the result is the compression depth (A), formula ET = B-(C/2)




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Posted 2019-03-15 11:02 AM (#579370 - in reply to #471840)
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As for tire size, this is what I have and they are next to the same diameter as the bias ply

Radial Type 235/70/15”
DW = 381mm : [Diameter of the Wheel (DW)15": DW = 15 x 25.4mm= 381mm]
HT = 164.5mm : [Height of the Tire (HT): HT = 235mm x 70% = 164.5mm]
OD = 710mm : [Overall Diameter (OD): OD = DW + (2 x HT) = 381mm + 329mm = 710mm (or 27.9")]
Overall Diameter measured OD = 708mm – I wonder how accurate (02).
CC = 2229.4mm : [Circumference (CC): CC = OD x 3.14 (pi) = 710mm x 3.14 = 2229.4 mm (or 87.7")]
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1960fury
Posted 2019-03-15 11:25 AM (#579372 - in reply to #579369)
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wizard - 2019-03-15 10:54 AM

Makes me wonder if we talk about the same thing? I get 0,395" (10mm) when I measure

1960 Chrysler Original Rims
Rim 14X6 bolt circle 5x4,50” (114,3mm) Offset ET+10 (180mm external width (152,4mm/6” internal width) divided by 2 = 90. Rim edge to abutment = 100 mm. 100 minus 90 = 10 mm positiv.


Measuring the ET
Measure the rim width (C)
Measure from the backside rim edge to the abutment (mounting surface against the hub) (B)
Subtract B with half of the rim width, the result is the compression depth (A), formula ET = B-(C/2)


I do not measure the lip, as shown in your picture, as they are different inside/outside on some rims. I measure under the lip, so I know the exact centerline. It is possible that the 6" wide rims are different from the 5" and 5.1/2" I measured. But 10mm is only 2.7mm away from 1/2". The distance from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting surface is 1/2" positive for the 5" and 5.1/2" wheels.

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