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60crossram
Posted 2014-03-18 12:17 AM (#431746)
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Location: Layton, Utah		It's probably been brought up here before, but what do people know or have relating to any Hearses out there? I have always wanted a 57-60 Chrysler or DeSoto Hearse (prefer DeSoto). I have seen a couple Chrysler Hearse pics when they were new, but what is out there now ? Ambulances are OK but hearses are much cooler. I'm not morbid it's just that you don't EVER see them. To find one that has been stored in an old mortuary somewhere in awesome shape would be the best.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-18 12:48 AM (#431748 - in reply to #431746)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Professional cars do not survive the secondary market very well and most got scrapped, but occasionally
one pops up where some old codge sat on it. I have seen far more Chrysler based professional cars than
DeSotos. Tim Fxgan parted out a 58 Adventurer flower car back in the 80's. Not sure what its history was ...
Someone here had a 58 Windsor-based hearse, .... I think in Tennessee ???

Given how dated and disliked fin cars were by 1965, I would bet any professional house using one would
have ditched it for "appearances" sake.

A dream of mine is to build a long roof wagon as a LWB 57-58 DeSoto .... maybe even do it as a sedan
delivery, complete with commercial lettering on the sides. But it would be done in the hearse style, using
standard (non-wagon) fins like the custom houses did. I probably won't live long enough to do it, but if the
right parts fell into my lap ....

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ttotired
Posted 2014-03-18 2:14 AM (#431753 - in reply to #431746)
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Location: Perth Australia		Always concidered hearses to be the ultimate in wagons (my preferance would be a 60 plymouth).

Even the airporters are cool, but really, where would you drive one of those, there just isnt anywhere that you could park it and if you set it up for paying passengers (over here), you have to convert it to r/h/d and havi it fully "engineered".

Not even sure how you would get it here, if it doesnt fit into a 40' sea container, it would have to go on a roll on/roll off ship, which means it has to be basically roadworthy.

Bet theres not many of those about.

I have a picture of a 60 plymouth hearse and I think its awesome





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d500neil
Posted 2014-03-18 2:40 AM (#431756 - in reply to #431753)
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-03-18 2:46 AM (#431758 - in reply to #431756)
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I saw some pics of an Australian production Chrysler Royal hearse somewhere a few months back, looked about 1959 ??, not sure if I can find it again ?

I think there is an internet forum dedicated to ambulances and hearses online ??


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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-03-18 2:48 AM (#431759 - in reply to #431758)
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Here it is,the Australian production hearse, found it straight away !!!

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=47595


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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-03-18 2:54 AM (#431761 - in reply to #431759)
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Here's a hearse forum

http://www.nationalhearse.net/forums/forumdisplay.php/17-National-H...


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And another

http://www.coffin-talk.net/viewforum.php?f=10


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And here's one from our morbid lot down here


http://www.phpbbplanet.com/hearsesoz/index.php?mforum=hearsesoz


.......

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d500neil
Posted 2014-03-18 2:59 AM (#431762 - in reply to #431746)
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ttotired
Posted 2014-03-18 3:35 AM (#431766 - in reply to #431746)
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Are you have a few quiet drinks?

I guess even push buttons in one could be a hearse shifter or just a shifter from a hearse

Just cracked a can here as work has been a non event today (3.35pm) so my comedy may come to your level soon

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lownslow
Posted 2014-03-18 7:31 AM (#431780 - in reply to #431746)
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StillOutThere
Posted 2014-03-18 10:04 AM (#431789 - in reply to #431746)
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In grade and high school I had a friend who actually grew up to become a mortician.  Car guy, always talking hearses and professional cars.  He started my interest in them.  They are always constructed by coachbuilders making them a very special class of vehicle.   By far the finest looking Forward Look hearse I have ever seen either in the steel or in pictures, is the 1959 Chrylser Saratoga below.   It originally came out of New York state.  Lived in Chicago for a while in the '80s where I got to see it in person and am not sure where it is today.





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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-18 12:14 PM (#431809 - in reply to #431789)
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But for most people, these are just ugly. They'd prefer the boring modern crap.
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spinout
Posted 2014-03-18 3:01 PM (#431840 - in reply to #431809)
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Location: Bjorneborg, Finland		I'd prefer a '57 DeSoto for the forthcoming final trip ..



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Posted 2014-03-18 3:52 PM (#431845 - in reply to #431840)
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spinout - 2014-03-18 3:01 PM

I'd prefer a '57 DeSoto for the forthcoming final trip ..


I like that idea also, make mine a black/gold Firedome based hearse.... stick, with dog dish hubcaps!
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Posted 2014-03-18 5:58 PM (#431871 - in reply to #431746)
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d500neil
Posted 2014-03-18 6:41 PM (#431878 - in reply to #431871)
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Because then, they'd be a hearse of a different color.



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Posted 2014-03-18 7:26 PM (#431890 - in reply to #431746)
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Location: Upstate NY		Most of the Desoto professional cars were built by the Memphis Coach Company. There was a dealer package where you could order an ambulance, funeral car, flower car etc and the factory would make a "special build" and send the car with wagon or truck torsion bars, extra HD transmission and no headliner. They would chop the new car in half and build the extra seat roof or whatever the options that were ordered called for. I own a 6 door funeral car. It was a special build Fireflite that they sent directly to the Memphis Coach Company and they extended the car built the extra seat doors, extended the roof, split driveshaft etc and shipped directly to the dealer for the funeral home. The car is on Ed's 57 Desoto site if you are interested.
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-03-18 7:32 PM (#431891 - in reply to #431746)
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Meh I tried.



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Posted 2014-03-18 8:00 PM (#431895 - in reply to #431746)
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d500neil
Posted 2014-03-18 8:25 PM (#431902 - in reply to #431895)
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Posted 2014-03-18 9:01 PM (#431906 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-18 9:17 PM (#431911 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-18 9:19 PM (#431912 - in reply to #431906)
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Ever seen 'The Boy Who Loved Hearses"? Good story, look for it on DVD




We have a local hearse club up here, that bring their cars to shows, and to other "special" events and fund "raisers".
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Posted 2014-03-18 9:22 PM (#431913 - in reply to #431746)
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Dave L.
Posted 2014-03-18 10:22 PM (#431918 - in reply to #431913)
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Location: Tacoma, WA		I've been interested in Mopar Professional Cars for a long time as well, and there are various clubs out there to cater to the different segments of the sub-hobby. Some celebrate the ghoulish nature, while others cater to the celebration and respect for the related industries, and the people who work in them. Many people are members of several different clubs. Much of the acceptance of the hobby is due to decades of work by the club called the Professional Car Society. But there are many others, and as the hobby grows, they don't always see eye-to-eye, but there's something for everyone. Like mentioned above, Many DeSotos and Chryslers were modified by Memphis Coach. National did many, as did smaller coachbuilders like Pinner. My project car is a '60 Windsor "Briarean" by Richard Brothers - Like the gold '61 above that sold recently and now resides in a collection England. They weren't around long, but RB (originally an automobile metal-stamping supplier) used Chrysler's and DeSoto's, and could be ordered through select dealers. Richard Brothers is the coachbuilder I know most about. I've seen about ten of these over the years, but you're right, usually in ambulance or combo trim. Way before the Emergency! T.V. show, ambulance services were provided by the funeral homes - pretty much load-and-go, so many cars, like mine, were "combinations," switchable between hearse and ambulance use. Of course many were straight hearses or straight ambulances. If you think hearses are cool, you'll surely find a club to you liking. There is also a LOT to learn about them, especially if you own one. The clubs are great for that, too. Here are a couple additional links off the top of my head, in no particular order:

If this shows without having to be a member, it is very interesting. I have learned a lot from the PCS, my club of choice, but they are all good.
http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3696&...

Here's Dawson Blackmoor's Memphian - I car I had an opportunity to purchase long ago, but I;m glad he got it:
http://www.ctemsi.com/

There were a LOT of coachbuilders.
http://www.coachbuilt.com/

Some are small and regional. Like Pinner:
http://www.allpar.com/fleets/pinner.html

This club is worthwhile, too:
http://www.professionalcar.org/

There was an ambulance conversion DeSoto in a wrecking yard that someone I knew knew something about, but it's been many years now.)

(How could you NOT like ambulances?! http://www.imperialclub.com/~imperialclub/Rare/Ambulances/index.htm)

Sorry for rambling on...




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Posted 2014-03-18 11:15 PM (#431923 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-18 11:32 PM (#431927 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-18 11:33 PM (#431928 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-18 11:37 PM (#431929 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-19 12:02 AM (#431936 - in reply to #431929)
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Posted 2014-03-19 3:10 AM (#431945 - in reply to #431936)
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Posted 2014-03-19 2:03 PM (#431999 - in reply to #431945)
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Location: So. Cal		I would imagine that a '59 or '60 Imperial would make a great hearse. I would also like a '59 Dodge hearse. There was one for sale on Craigslist in Missouri a year or two ago, but I didn't save any pictures of it. Here are some pics of a '59 Dodge ambulance instead.



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Posted 2014-03-19 2:09 PM (#432000 - in reply to #431936)
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Posted 2014-03-19 2:29 PM (#432003 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-19 2:59 PM (#432006 - in reply to #431746)
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I have seen some of the ambulance around but never the hearsts those are very cool.
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Posted 2014-03-19 11:29 PM (#432079 - in reply to #432000)
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This one is for Doc. He is always yapping his jaw about making a '57-'58 wagon with proper fins. Well here is a '58 already done. :madman:


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Oh yeah ! Now imagine that with a low, long roof 2-door body, monotone paint (preferably in a
sick color like buzzard puke green), dog dishies and body colored wheels, and that glorious long
wheelbase nose !
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d500neil
Posted 2014-03-20 3:19 AM (#432088 - in reply to #431746)
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Posted 2014-03-20 6:03 AM (#432093 - in reply to #431999)
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Powerflite - 2014-03-20 6:03 AM

I would imagine that a '59 or '60 Imperial would make a great hearse. I would also like a '59 Dodge hearse. There was one for sale on Craigslist in Missouri a year or two ago, but I didn't save any pictures of it. Here are some pics of a '59 Dodge ambulance instead.


.......

That light grey/light blue Memphian ( spelling ?? ) 59 Dodge Ambulance I've seen a few times before here and there a while back ( ebay ?? maybe ?? )

I think ?? it came from an air force base somewhere originally ??

There were other shots of it and it's apparently original interior as well.

Wonder where it is now?

I should have saved the pics when I saw it way back then..........

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-03-20 11:16 AM (#432130 - in reply to #432093)
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Posted 2014-03-20 11:31 AM (#432132 - in reply to #431789)
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StillOutThere - 2014-03-18 10:04 AM

In grade and high school I had a friend who actually grew up to become a mortician.  Car guy, always talking hearses and professional cars.  He started my interest in them.  They are always constructed by coachbuilders making them a very special class of vehicle.   By far the finest looking Forward Look hearse I have ever seen either in the steel or in pictures, is the 1959 Chrylser Saratoga below.   It originally came out of New York state.  Lived in Chicago for a while in the '80s where I got to see it in person and am not sure where it is today.



Same for me: Saratoga 59 hearse is so nice and 'Heavy' (modell)




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