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Location: Wild Wonderful | I am going to sell the black and white Firedome spring special and the Spanish Gold 2 door hardtop parts car with it.
As most of you know, the spring special has been taken apart. The parts car will help fix it. I will make sure all the
parts are there. If you want to see how I got the black and white SS, please go to " 2014 Merry Christmas to me "
under members rides. I need to get about $7k for the both of them.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | This car is still for sale. I took it all apart, but I am going to put it back together.
I have bought a lot of parts and panels for it. If you are interested in it, let me know. If you want me to
do something to it, real quick, I will see what I can do. It has new doors, trunk lid, & front inner fenders.
I got a real good set of quarter panels. I only screwed them to the car. I am just going to put the car
together really quick, so it can make the trip over seas. Those guys over there know how to weld and
put the car together correctly. The people in the USA just don't know how to handle a car like this. 
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Obviously I am still working on it. Let me know if you are interested... apart or together.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Any interest?
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Location: NY & VT | I wouldn't make the generalization that "people in the USA don't know how to handle a car like this".
There's plenty of restorers here that are every bit as competent and perfectionist as the Swedes, or anybody else.
Our own John "Big M" is the proof of that! Your're not that far from PA, go see Al Prueitt in Glen Rock PA sometime to see some incredible work.
There's loads of others as well. The difference is that Swedes, however, have money to spend and are more willing to spend it. Talented people like Al Prueitt and Jan Fridberg aren't free,
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| Agreed.
How firm at you a 7k? So the quarters are just screwed in place?
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but in general, Americans are sissies when it comes to rust. Prove me wrong. 
The 7k was for both 2 door hardtops. At the time I was throwing a number at the wall to see if it sticks.
Now that I have Titles for everything in the back yard, I would like to sell the cars separately. So if someone
wants to make me an offer on the whole back yard, I am willing to listen.
I have a lot more panels and trim pieces for this car. I replaced the doors, fenders, trunk
lid, Speedometer, gauges, and clock. I bought rocker panels, quarter panels, floor panels, and trunk panels.
I never got a chance to replace the windshield yet. It has a 6" crack on the passenger side.
Send me a serious offer, the worst I can do is say no, but I am sure we can meet somewhere in the middle.
I want someone who is not afraid to restore this car. I would love to see it black and white, or black and silver, with
a red and black interior. Awesome.
Yes, those quarters are just screwed on, for now.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I have to sell this car so I can afford a paint job for my other car.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I would hate to put this car back together just to have the new owner take it back apart. If you are interested, I will
make sure you have a complete car, including the new side trim, new black carpet, correct side mirrors, and all the
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| paint it yourself man, its easy. 
I paint all my cars, takes a day to get it done even in the driveway.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-16580-Accuspray-System-Standard/dp/B01497M...
get the 3m accuspray gun.
Go get your colors and some clear coat. I am painting my car in single stage.
sand it and buff it out.
Paint jobs go from 3500 to 25000$ and "depends" ... if your car is stripped its super easy.
You have a earl scheib in WV in dunbar? They "shoot" the car for 399$ Thats basically just the labor in the booth.
http://www.earlscheibautopainting.com/about.html
Here is an example of my 3000Gt and Dodge Stealth I painted in my garage its a good Saturday workout but you save a lot.
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| this has Nason paint and clear coat, i wet sanded and buffed it out. But it was painted in the garage and small things done outside. Prob put 4 coats of clear on it. two coats of black. eastwood paints are what I'm going with, their single stage but your local paint shops will have them also. Probably for cheaper https://www.eastwood.com/paints/automotive-refinishing.html
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| Looking at it more that's really more welding that I want to do. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | FINS! - 2018-04-19 4:48 PM
Looking at it more that's really more welding that I want to do.
Don't feel bad, that's more welding than anyone wants to do.
But I'm gonna do it anyway.
I didn't think that anyone was going to take it over in this condition. But I figured that I would put it out there just
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| All modern cars look alike to me I never have this problem with classics. But now I see the R/T and I also see that you said Stealth. Geez..... Whatever the heck it is, it looks amazing 
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| If the quarters were welded on and finished it's something I'd be more interested in. I've got a 58 Spring Special 2dr ht in Heather Blue. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | FINS! - 2018-04-19 6:42 PM
If the quarters were welded on and finished it's something I'd be more interested in. I've got a 58 Spring Special 2dr ht in Heather Blue.
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| It's all together, haven't done any disassembly. First step is to get it running and moving under it's own power and go from there. It needs rear floors bad and the center of the trunk, outer rockers, but it's not nearly as bad as this car quarters are nice inner rockers good front floors aren't bad doors and front clip good. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | FINS! - 2018-04-21 4:11 PM
It's all together, haven't done any disassembly. First step is to get it running and moving under it's own power and go from there. It needs rear floors bad and the center of the trunk, outer rockers, but it's not nearly as bad as this car quarters are nice inner rockers good front floors aren't bad doors and front clip good.
" Can't wait to see it on the road again. I would like to see all three of these SS cars together on the road sometime.
I hope that whomever buys this SS car will have the time, patience and stamina to put it back together correctly.
A lot of parts were missing when I got it, but I have put a lot into it. Someone with welding skills will have a nice car.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | BTW, that 1958 West Virginia license plate will go with the car. Numbers match VIN.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I put the front bumper back on. Is anybody interested in the car? Send me a PM.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Okay. I sat down and figured everything that I have into this car. The total is $5,845.00 .
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| I'm going to at least try to get it mine running this year. I think the trans needs to be rebuilt so I may not be able to get it roadworthy, will see how it goes. And then I'll start the restoration of the body and go from there. Yours actually needs more work than mine... |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I painted inside with POR15. I painted inside the doors also. Then I put the glass back on.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I have never seen so many 58 DeSotos for sale at one time. It looks like I will never be able to sell this.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | 58DeSoDodge59 - 2018-06-04 8:39 PM
I painted inside with POR15. I painted inside the doors also. Then I put the glass back on.
BTW, before I painted the interior, I treated the metal with rust neutralizer. So whoever gets this car will not have to worry
about any rust for a while.
Also, that brown looking stuff, on the wall, in the back seat area, is the original glue. I think someone got carried away
when they were applying it.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I started on the floor and firewall.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Baby steps to a brighter future.
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Location: northern germany | 58DeSoDodge59 - 2018-06-19 7:02 PM
Whoa, Dude! What did you do?
The usual mistake, cut out way too much. Do not let the people who sold you the replacemet panel (that is NEVER like OE) determine how much you remove. Only fix the rust. It is important to keep solid anchor points, if you want the metal shape like from the factory afterwards. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | 1960fury - 2018-06-19 8:03 PM
58DeSoDodge59 - 2018-06-19 7:02 PM
Whoa, Dude! What did you do?
The usual mistake, cut out way too much. Do not let the people who sold you the replacemet panel (that is NEVER like OE ) determine how much you remove. Only fix the rust. It is important to keep solid anchor points, if you want the metal shape like from the factory afterwards.
Trust me, I did not cut out way too much. I only cut out the rust, and this is what I was left with. I still have to cut
about two inches off of the top/front of that front replacement panel. Very seldom do I use the complete panel.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Workin on it. I cut even more.
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| The Floors are looking very good ,nice to see the Quarter panels found a good home ,I had them in my Basement a while . |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | AHA! So you're the guilty party. When I saw those Quarter panels, I thought, those things were Not
made by C2C. They were made very well. Do you know who made them? I heard that the 300 club made
some of these. I was thinking that that is where they came from.
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| The Quarters came with a 57 Dodge Convertible I bought from Benny Buckner in West Virginia ,I think he did say they were from or made by the Chrysler 300 club .Your Desoto is Looking Very Good ,Glad the Quarters found a Good Home, Good luck with the sale you have made the new owners job a Lot Easier. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Yeah, Nobody wants this car in pieces, and I don't have a lot of time to work on it.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Warning; Looking at this car is enjoyable, and can be addictive.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Well, I had surgery on my hand, so I am selling this car as-is. $6500. If nobody here wants it, then I will put it on Ebay.
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| ouch your not supposed to have metal stick out of your thumb like that... your killing me man... if i had the room... put it on ebay man. this is ridiculous...
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Gidman - 2018-09-24 2:40 PM
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Location: San Antonio TX | mikes2nd - 2018-09-23 7:09 PM your killing me man... if i had the room... put it on ebay man. this is ridiculous... I agree. $6500 is a great price for this thing. I felt like I had to step in and put a stop to the ridiculousness . Can't wait to get it up and running! Anyone want to buy my 57 Windsor 4D hardtop? |
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Its brutal when your in a hurry, im dealing with weather up here also, makes it worse... But that car is almost heading "downhill"... But i actually like doing the work and it gets me away from my desk.
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Location: Wild Wonderful | I welded the VIN back on. It looks crooked, but that is where the holes lined up.
Then I spot welded the quarter panel on.
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Location: Arvada, Colorado (NW Denver Metro Area) | mikes2nd - 2018-04-12 10:40 AM paint it yourself man, its easy. I paint all my cars, takes a day to get it done even in the driveway. https://www.amazon.com/3M-16580-Accuspray-System-Standard/dp/B01497M... get the 3m accuspray gun. Go get your colors and some clear coat. I am painting my car in single stage. sand it and buff it out. Paint jobs go from 3500 to 25000$ and "depends" ... if your car is stripped its super easy. You have a earl scheib in WV in dunbar? They "shoot" the car for 399$ Thats basically just the labor in the booth. http://www.earlscheibautopainting.com/about.html Here is an example of my 3000Gt and Dodge Stealth I painted in my garage its a good Saturday workout but you save a lot. its a 25000$ paint job Mike,, I picked up the 3M sprayer you suggested from Amazon and will try it out, what mm nozel do you use or single stage and which one for Base Coat/Clear Coat applicatiion? John |
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| heh i made it sound a bit too easy
But if your painting in your garage, your best off painting the car in parts.
I was running into weather issues and the body work is brutal. Getting the body straight is the issue.
I was watching "bitching rides" and I watched them skim coat the entire car in bondo... i understand why now on these old cars.
They had tons of stamping ripples in the bodies.
So to shoot my single stage I use a 1.4 tip(orange). Youll need the liners and caps.
I used "featherfill G2" bondo filler primer to get thing straight, it takes 3 series of coats to get things good.
I have not used the base clear with the accuspray yet. I find single stage paints are very good quality now. Check out eastwood or Nason.
I use the 2.0 tip(red one)
To use the accuspray be VERY careful not to put wear on the tabs. push the edges in good so they dont scrape on the gun, once you booger up a latching corner the tip is garbage. If the tip does not have a tight seal it wont shoot at all.
Do not do the push on "latching" and snapping like they show, notice how they push the buttons on the side in when they remove the tip? Put the tip like that also so it doesnt harm the latches. I had a couple tips shred the latches when i tried to snap them on. So pull trigger, push both buttons in and put tip on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnhxzKbDlZI
Also verify the 6 air holes in the back of the tip are formed right, i had some 2.0 tips that i had to punch out. I had a couple "misformed" tips... that pissed me off alot since i couldnt figure out why it wouldnt shoot right.
guy shows about cleaning it well. Except youll need to take the tip off and clean from the back.
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I bought some liners and cups off amazon(they were chinese knockoffs and needed some attention but work fine) and more tips.
If your going to paint 15 cars your better off buying an expensive gun.
you will get 3-5 shoots with a tip if your careful not the trash the latches. be careful with the tip cleaning and you can get some life out of them.
For me who paints a car every couple of years its a great choice, the clean up is the best part To clean the tip, i pour some laq thinner in the top and shake a bit then spray, repeat that a few times, take the tip off, clean the needle and the back of the tip down the hole. I put some thinner in the back with my finger over the tip and back hole and shake and rinse a few times. |
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| shows the heads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzvQgIvuHic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IKVsKEXT1M
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Location: Arvada, Colorado (NW Denver Metro Area) | Thanks Mike for the tips and the You Tube links!
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Goodbye sweetheart.
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| Probably Best ,now you can stop working on it and Get Back to your cars. |
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Location: San Antonio TX | Just got it yesterday. It's at my mechanic's shop right now, and I'll be heading over there this weekend to sort out all the parts in the trunk and get a start on the rust repair. |
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Location: So. Cal | Congratulations! That's a great project and Kurt made a lot of good progress on it to get it a lot closer to completion. Keep us posted on your progress. |
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Thanks Nathan, I tried.
Miles, I'm glad it made it there okay. Good luck. It sounds like you are going to have it back on
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Location: Wild Wonderful | Has anyone heard from Miles recently? He has not logged on for a while.
I hope he is too busy driving the car now.
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