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How Much did that 57 Dodge Convertible sell for ?
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What white '61 Imperial?
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | Doctor DeSoto - 2017-01-08 2:25 AM
I used to live in Somerset, then later lived on Rose Hill. Later still I lived
in Citrus Heights, moving later to Bellevue. After that I lived in Lacey, then
Drain, then Redmond, Snohomish, Everett, and ultimately Spokane. Oh yeah,
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We had a number of different colored houses over the years too.
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Location: Seville, OH | Doctor DeSoto - 2017-01-07 9:25 PM
I used to live in Somerset, then later lived on Rose Hill. Later still I lived
in Citrus Heights, moving later to Bellevue. After that I lived in Lacey, then
Drain, then Redmond, Snohomish, Everett, and ultimately Spokane. Oh yeah,
before any of this, I lived in Walnut Creek. I had some dogs over the years
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Location: Seville, OH | Doctor DeSoto - 2017-01-09 11:08 AM
Oh, so YOU'RE the one who took the last pilot's license !
I actually started my flight school at Paine Field, but when I went down to check out my plane for my solo cross country, it was padlocked closed due to bankruptcy. Fortunately, I was paying as I went, but a lot of students had money on account that they all lost. Did they close the school at Harvey? Probably so, it was a Cessna school, but you could rent a Piper Cub too.
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That Phoenix truly is a magnificent automobile: an accurately restored red 2-dr H/T (with just that touch of white trim), ram 383, swivels, and no dorky wire wheels that are supposed to be "period correct." I hope it's not a "tribute car" such as that recreation of Dave Strickler's '61 Chevy 2-dr post 409 CID "Old Reliable" (a neat car in itself, but just a clone). Do you know if it's legit?
Even though my first automotive love affair was the '60 Fury, that Dart is a much better looking car than my Big-Tailed Beast. But the Mecum car would not be a good one for me as I would flog it -- there's nothing like twin 4V's suckin' air, dual exhausts trumpeting, and white walls smokin'!
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| The Chrysler Kid - 2017-01-09 7:15 PM
I was/am there as well. '61 Imperial got a high bid of 29k. The '61 Fury convert has a torn top, they had it sitting in the rain with water leaking right into the top bay!
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I'm in Colorado Springs and it's 1529 miles to Orlando.
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The "500" emblem is on the driver's side???
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Swept57 - 2017-01-09 10:22 AM
The "500" emblem is on the driver's side???
I see what they did... a rare D-1000
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Location: Seville, OH | Powerflite - 2017-01-11 12:22 AM
Swept57 - 2017-01-10 8:49 AM
Swept57 - 2017-01-09 10:22 AM
The "500" emblem is on the driver's side???
I see what they did... a rare D-1000
That's funny. I guess he just likes absolute symmetry.
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Nope, on this site I just discuss cars with guys that like cars and leave inanities to those who fancy themselves wits (and who so very often, are half right).
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The 57 D500 conv went for $41K
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A nice automobile. I wonder if there was a build record with car? It would be a sweet deal indeed if it really were a D-500 in spite of the very amateurish application of the two "scare emblems."
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Location: Chicago | Sonoramic60 - 2017-01-09 8:28 PM
there's nothing like twin 4V's suckin' air, dual exhausts trumpeting, and white walls smokin'!
Nice car, indeed.
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Location: Parts Unknown | I have had friends over the years that I would call "car whores". They
own cars not because they seek out and find. Rather, the cars just drop
in their lap. It might be a 52 Chevy sedan, or a 41 Cadillac, or a 57 NY'er ...
... doesn't matter. It's an old car and they have no strong attachment to
brand, year, body type, color, anything .... it just doesn't matter.
In a way, I think it would be a whole lot easier to go through life being
so adaptable to whatever happens to cross one's path. On the flip side,
there's me ! Picky-ass SOB where any number of criteria are applied and
only a VERY select few make the cut. All others are unacceptable. Some
are frustratingly close to "right", but one thing or another just rule them
right out. This is one of them.
This one has canted headlights, Astra-dome dash, it's a ragtop, it not only
a 300, it's an "H', ... and it's one of only 123 built. Hard to beat that, right ?
But it has this one ink-filled, piss-on-any-parade, ruin-the-whole-show problem !
It is red, it has those ugly black-out headlight backings, but WTF ? It has no
fins !!! It is a finned car with the fins shaved off ! Granted, the factory did it.
It IS a real car and perhaps a real nice example. But it's got no fins !!!!
That's like the most convincingly beautiful woman asking YOU for a date,
except it's actually a dude ! The perfect dinner, with a turd on the plate. A
wonderful piece of land, but it used to be a radioactive waste dump. For this
guy, some things just cannot be overruled.
I found a car just like this one ... same color and everything, sitting on the
street in Ukiah, California. I was hunting for my DeSoto. For a lot of people
I have known, the DeSoto hunt would have been over right there. Buy the
300 and just roll with it. Could not do it. Without fins, it just isn't the same !
Without fins, it is no longer of interest. So close, but yet so far. There are times
when I really wish I could be more of a car whore. Life WOULD be that much
easier !
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| Sonoramic60 - 2017-01-12 5:45 PM
Dave --
A nice automobile. I wonder if there was a build record with car? It would be a sweet deal indeed if it really were a D-500 in spite of the very amateurish application of the two "scare emblems."
I wonder what the '60 Phoenix will go for?
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I like the '62 Chrysler better than any except the '60. Now if the '62 had the '60
front end without the canted headlights, WOW! That would be my cup of tea - no
fins, just clean, smooth lines - I'd love it.
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I would like to understand your viewpoint on this, as
it is polar opposite to mine.
What I see with a 62 are muddled styling ideas, clashing
in my opinion. A car with clean, smooth line would be a
1996 Ford Taurus.
Help me understand your way of looking at this.
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I couldn't care less if the '62 300 is a letter car or not - they look the same to me and I'd be satisfied with either one but like I indicated, I'd like them better if they had the '60 front end without the canted headlights.
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to learn something about a viewpoint that just isn't obvious to me. No pissing
match desired. Just good "argument" for a different viewpoint.
As an example, the swept-over curve at the fin tip of a 57-58 DeSoto/Chrysler
strikes me as one of the cars' most elegant design points. Another, the way the
color sweep of the 57 DeSoto matches the profile of 2HT roof makes it the best-
ever two-toning design of the 50's.
How would you cite the favorable attributes of the 62 Chrysler ?
And ANYONE can jump in here. I am asking for reason-backed opinions from
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I agree on the 57 Desoto and it can pull off same body color wheel covers which is not an easy task. most look dumb.
I have to admit I think the 58 Desoto is probably the best... Ford quickly ripped that one off with their 58. I wonder if they got a tip off on the Desoto design, its pretty close but typical ford ulgy awkward...
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Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the '60 Phoenix had a build record with it? It truly is a desireable car in which I would love to "cruise the gut" and even probably engage in an occasional "speed demonstration."
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I think the back end of the 62's are great(going finless) and they last even on the 880 Custom for 63. Not a fan of the those diagonal headlights... or the pignose Desoto.
I agree on the 57 Desoto and it can pull off same body color wheel covers which is not an easy task. most look dumb.
I have to admit I think the 58 Desoto is probably the best... Ford quickly ripped that one off with their 58. I wonder if they got a tip off on the Desoto design, its pretty close but typical ford ulgy awkward...
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The 57 Ford was a pretty curvy hunk of sheetmetal that played well with
the ornamentation, but the 58-59 base for all their makes but Lincoln were
actually very square, relying on the ornamentation to give the look of being
all curvy and swoopy. The 58 Ford IS close enough in a lot of detail ideas
to kind of look like a 58 DeSoto at a quickl glance. God knows I've turned
around many times to go back and look at a 58 DeSoto I saw out of the corner
of my eye, only to discover it was just another Ford !
Your comment about Ford ugly-awkward resonates with me. They had a few
really pretty, well proportioned and detailed designs over the years, but by-and
-large, they really had a styling penchant for awkward, like the enormously
bulbous assed and blunt-faced post-war (42-48) cars. The 49 was novel and
pretty good looking, but Studebaker's similar design showed just how Ford
liked to keep it boxy and just add ornaments. The 58 Ford rear treatment has
always made me scratch my head, especially if a person knows what a 57 Ford
look like ! Who thought THAT was a good idea ? 
But, like always, Ford seems to defy their own cheapness and awkward-ugly and
fill the roads with them. Just look at how many of those gawdawful ugly round Taurus
cars they sold !
The 60 Ford is the one stand-alone design for the Ford make I would actually own.
Actually, I wouldn't. But I think the design in extremely UN-Ford .... well integrated
from every angle, but again, Ford would undo any good they achieved by putting
cheap trim on them (the dash and interior has all the George Jetson pizzazz of a
riding lawnmower), cheesy looking wheelcovers, the grille *could have* been made
of something substantial, but instead looks like some cheap aluminum kitchen utensil.
And most got that shipping crate roof that Elwood Engle thought was so awesome.
Oddly, that last detail is starting to look good, given how cars for the last 25 years
look more like a suppository than a car.
But people LOVE Fords ! What is up with that ? They always have, too. Ford could roll
out the worst POS ever imagined and throngs would line up for miles to buy one ! Am I so
skewed from the mainstream opinion of what makes good design, or do that many people
simply not care about design or cheaply made ? Are that many people just sold on Walmart
type "cheap" and up-front price is all that mattered/matters ?
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I think the back end of the 62's are great(going finless) and they last even on the 880 Custom for 63. Not a fan of the those diagonal headlights... or the pignose Desoto.
I agree on the 57 Desoto and it can pull off same body color wheel covers which is not an easy task. most look dumb.
I have to admit I think the 58 Desoto is probably the best... Ford quickly ripped that one off with their 58. I wonder if they got a tip off on the Desoto design, its pretty close but typical ford ulgy awkward...
I agree with Mike regarding his take on the '62 Chrysler and I'll take it one step farther - in my opinion the side character lines and rear fender line blend very nicely with the rear end and tail lights. I will admit I'm no design or style analyst, I either like, don't like, or am neutral as to what I see. I like the '62 Chrysler and would like it even better with a '60 nose. Plus I like the Astra Dome gage cluster as much or more than any other that has ever existed.
As for the '55 through '61 DeSotos I rate the style in my opinion best to least as follows: '60, '57, '55, '58, '56, '59, and '61. Yeah I know I have a '59 that is next to last on my list but I also consider value with high priority. My '59 is not all that bad in looks, has received lots of positive comments and awards, provided many miles of driving pleasure, and no problems or costs outside of routine maintenance - just gas and go.
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Dave --
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the '60 Phoenix had a build record with it? It truly is a desireable car in which I would love to "cruise the gut" and even probably engage in an occasional "speed demonstration."
Joe
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| I was there and looked over both cars, hard. The G was a great car, looked awesome. Paint had a few imperfections, but not nothing crazy. Was a big price for a non air card in a common color, but was offset by a top level restoration. I think it went for a top of the line price, but you rarely seen one restored to that level come for sale.
The H......well.....in my opinion, was a rough car. I think it went for a fair price. There was some BAD body work in that car. On the driver side, you could see 15 spot welds through the paint for a patch panel put in front of the rear wheel well. There was bubbling in area's that would turn to something more significant down the road. I tried to get the dome lights on, nada. Car would need to be redone to get to the top levels an H can reach, around 80-90k.
The 61 Imperial had a closed hood restoration, such a shame. It was a nice car, but the motor stayed in during restoration. Under hood was a different white than outside. They had redone almost all the chrome and stainless, was a good car, but just short. Seller wanted 32,500. I was around when a buyer was 1500 apart and they couldn't close the deal.
The 60 Phoenix was a nice car, but still had some flaws, not as bad as the H car, but there were restoration issues present.
If you think cars don't sell at Mecum, you're wrong. As of Saturday at 11am, they only had 380 unsold cars. In total they run 3k. A LOT of cars sell after. I was unable to find the 61 NY convertible.
I bought this red 66 Imperial convertible for 29,700 out the door. It's a nice car, high driver quality. I got it to go with the 65 I have:
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Thanks for checking. It does look like you got a very nice car.
Looking back at the pics of the Phoenix on this thread, I did see some oil stains on the front of the engine. Since it has the canister power brake booster, I would assume it would have been a later production car as my early '60 Fury has the old bellows type. If so, being a later ram car, the Dodge should have had the fender well cutout panels. I don't suppose you could have been close enough to see if they were there.
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The C or the G?
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Location: Oley, PA | Doctor DeSoto - 2017-01-13 11:59 PM
I am not trying to impress MY preferences over yours. Rather, I am looking
to learn something about a viewpoint that just isn't obvious to me. No pissing
match desired. Just good "argument" for a different viewpoint.
As an example, the swept-over curve at the fin tip of a 57-58 DeSoto/Chrysler
strikes me as one of the cars' most elegant design points. Another, the way the
color sweep of the 57 DeSoto matches the profile of 2HT roof makes it the best-
ever two-toning design of the 50's.
How would you cite the favorable attributes of the 62 Chrysler ?
And ANYONE can jump in here. I am asking for reason-backed opinions from
anyone.
Doc, I'm a few days late on this answer, but I wanted to throw my hat in the ring.
Certainly the design features that one person likes are about personal preference, i.e. if we all liked the same things, the world would be a pretty boring place.
I personally like the 62 Chryslers, especially the 300s. I can't say that like them better than the 61s, but I think they have their place. To me they represent a styling transition from the 50s to the 60s. It was time for fins to run their course and move on. Don't get me wrong, I love fins, but at least part of what I love about them is that they represent a rather brief period in automotive history where style ruled.
But I digress...
The one feature of the 62 Chrysler line that I love are those taillights. As a youngster, I distinctly recall seeing them and pondering how the longest portion of the taillight lens faces to the sky and only the very end wraps down and faces aft in a conventional way. In my youthful mind, I imagined that the upper portion was there to send a skyward beacon to spaceships or possibly even alien visitors to our planet.
Imagine how disappointed I was the first time I saw one at night and realized that only the rear-facing section actually lights up. If I ever own a 62, I think I will find a way to illuminate the top part, so I can complete the mission as intended. Or at least as I imagined it.
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That is a great story !
I guess I liked fins so much, when they got shaved, I just turned off to
everything until muscle cars really got going about 1966.
I have a similar tail light story .... 58 Plymouth. This pre-age 5 kid was
fascinated those tail lights because they look like up-turned lollipops ....
something VERY important to a kid that age !
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