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Location: bishop, ca | Back in June 2012 [I've looked-up those Pics' saved numbers-info] , there was a....(Wizard production?)
thread, posted somewhere around here, about how our rides' turn signals' flashing-noise, [which was virtually
inaudible, in my car]...could be increased, by adding on a mini speaker to the flasher-mechanism.
Created that speaker-system, but, its under-dash mini-speaker somehow got damaged
during the past couple months, when H. was having his power seat be overhauled.
Found the 2012 pics (attached, below), but couldn't locate the How-To article, so, took (additional)
pics of the 2015 re-creation of that production.
The mini-speaker produces a noticeable "ticking" sound, which I wish was louder, but, at least, it is very
compact and its operational noise is audible.
And, yes, from comments made back-then about how a different (motorcycle-) flasher-control
could make a louder noise.....I've not yet had the opportunity to try-out a motorcycle flasher in/on
my car.
The wiring should be the same, though, with either speaker system.
The 'new' (2015) pics begin with image #5319.....
But the last two pics show I.D. detail of that 'resister' guy.
And, thank y'all, back in 2012, who declined (ignored-) buying that second mini-speaker, which was
included the item-packaging, and which I offered for sale, cheaply.
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Looks good Neil, the idea with the flasher speaker came from Serge originally and I built my one after his instructions.
Since then I installed LED switchback LED's for parking/flasher and I had to change to a LED-flasher relay - which has a load sound, so my flasher-speaker system is demounted now. |
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Location: SWITZERLAND | This kind of clicking sound to hear the flashing with a loudspeaker I did already in the 60s in my Chevimp. The capacitor leads the switching-transient to the speaker and make it audible. Then I didn't use a separate speaker, for the car has already a speaker (radio) that does the same and even better. It was directly connected to the flasher over a capacitor. But the sound was very pointy and not at all nice to listen. My actual solution is shown in my thread, using a DC-operated beeper, connected over the flash contacts without a capacitor. Here the 12V drives the 12V beeper. Now it sounds similar to a call. - SERGE - http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23691&start=84 |
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Location: bishop, ca | Thanks, Serge!
How would you describe the type/style of the necessary capacitor, as seen above?
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Location: SWITZERLAND | As I see the used capacitor is an electrolytic type 100uF/100V. The + should be connected on the battery side of the flasher . This value is not critical at all, about ok, could be somewhat smaller (10 - 20uF). A bigger value allows more lower frequencies to pass, but anyway inaudible with such a small speaker. Using the car speaker, I had added a serial resistor of 22 Ohms, as far I remember, in order to prevent additional loading of the audio amplifier. The higher the value, the more the sound will lowered. But the solution using a mini buzzer 12V (Shark Radio, about 5 – 10 USD) as described is much more practicable and at all a typical alert. – SERGE -
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Location: bishop, ca | AND, I can confirm that, using the above mini-speaker system, the device is not only COMPACT, but its
high-pitched 'ticking' noise is very audible!
Not so much being loud, but, as to its being clearly audible.
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Location: Arizona | I just did the mod of using a small 6 - 24v "beeper", $5 off Amazon.com and soldered it to the two lugs of the flasher unit. Positive for the beeper to the + input lug of the flasher. It works great, too loud in fact so I'm going to pull it out and put some tape over it to quiet it down. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Jim, does your flasher make a "ticking" sound when operating?
Got any pics of the flasher unit?
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Location: Alaska | The reason for this is because we are mostly "old farts" and losing our hearing? |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Partly yes, but as for me, I have a converted Golden Touch self seeking radio with 4x35 watts and the poor flasher relay must fight against that The new LED flasher I use is actually load enough without this mod. |
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Location: Arizona | The flasher itself makes a ticking sound. With the beeper installed it makes a loud high pitched beeping. Didn't take any pictures. It's just a standard two prong NON-heavy duty flasher. About as wide as it is tall, about 1.25" each way. Plus another 1" for the beeper now. |
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Location: Missouri | I have 6 new LED 1157 bulbs (4 white and 2 amber) that I found on eBay along with an adjustable electronic flasher. I'm eliminating the stock backup lights and adding two more taillights to my '55 Coronet. |
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Location: Arizona | I've thought about doing the same with mine. Backup lights never put out enough light to be useful, about all the are good for is warning people who see them come on that you are about to back over them. I keep thinking my 60 would look cool with the backups converted to another pair of stealth brake/turn lights. You should take pictures of yours before and after showing the back with the brake lights on. |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | By comparison, the 57+ Dodges have relatively powerful back up lights on them, and I've never considered replacing them, because I
have backed up my car, in relatively tight confines, at night, many times.
Their brake lights are located relatively high-up on their bodies, for good rearward visibility .....UNLIKE the 1958+ Plymouths,
which have very-LOW mounted tail lights on them.
The 1961 Dodges started out having very low mounted tail lamps on them, but, a mid-year tail lamp re-design featured
higher-mounted tail lamps.
Wonder if all of the 61 Dodges had this 'running' design change, on their rear ends (probably NOT...) ???
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