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Location: Napa, California | San Francisco Craigslist has a 1957 Dodge D501 listed for $35,000! Needs total restoration. Have I missed something in the hobby or is this price even close to realistic? |
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, the 1957 Canadian Custom Royals did have 354 2-bbl Poly-head engines in them.
Looking at its D501 trunk emblem, at first glance it looks to be re-chromed (which it MAY be...but) the
chroming quality is EXCELLENT...un-believeably so; check out its fine-detail: that is 'always' lost in the
re-chroming polishing-out/buffing operation.
So, this non-D500's (present-condition) fair market value may be equivalent to the value of its D501 emblem!
(And, we know that the D501 race-car MODEL'S engine is NOT "the same" as a mere 300B engine; it is
considerably more powerfully-built than the 300B engine).
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Location: CA | The trunk has an impression as well as the holes of where a D500 emblem "was." Are you sure it's a non-D500 or did you mean non-D501? |
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, IF...the car is of CAN-build, it can not have been built as a D500 model.
Didn't look real closely at its body..but trunks can be replaced.
And, then: the seller refers to a (possibly-) dealer-installed engine???
CAN CRL's came with 354 Poly head engines in them.
This COULD be a very attractive 3-tone CAN CRL!!
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Location: CA | That's true even though it looks to be the same color and condition as the rest of the car. Are you going to see if you can get a look at the p/t plate Neil? It would be interesting to know about this car. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | d500neil - 2015-05-18 7:55 PM
Well, the 1957 Canadian Custom Royals did have 354 2-bbl Poly-head engines in them.
Looking at its D501 trunk emblem, at first glance it looks to be re-chromed (which it MAY be...but) the
chroming quality is EXCELLENT...un-believeably so; check out its fine-detail: that is 'always' lost in the
re-chroming polishing-out/buffing operation.
So, this non-D500's (present-condition) fair market value may be equivalent to the value of its D501 emblem!
(And, we know that the D501 race-car MODEL'S engine is NOT "the same" as a mere 300B engine; it is
considerably more powerfully-built than the 300B engine).
Actually, 1958 canadian custom Royals had the 354, but 1957 canadian custom Royals had only the 313 poly. D500, and even moreso D501 is not mentionned anywhere in canadian factory litterature, not even in the ross roy data book, so I have no idea -but I doubt- if it were ever available in Canada.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Finsinthemirror - 2015-05-18 8:08 PM
That's true even though it looks to be the same color and condition as the rest of the car. Are you going to see if you can get a look at the p/t plate Neil? It would be interesting to know about this car.
If it really is a canadian custom royal, the PT Plate won't tell much: model, body number, paint, trim and that's it! |
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Location: Perth Australia | Says that the engine was "supposedley dealer installed", so maybe it got its emblem then (as a package?)
But saying supposedly makes me think that the seller doesnt believe it was dealer fitted either
The seller looks to have quite a few forward look mopars stashed in the background
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Here's a real CAN Custom Royal (from Tulsarama ding-dong), 2007:
...it's interior is similar style to the US Royal's, but, the color scheme can be different; E.G.:
this particular car's interior was made-up in a 2-tone GRAY motif, which was not available
in the 57 US Royal models.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | soiouz - 2015-05-18 8:08 PM
d500neil - 2015-05-18 7:55 PM
Well, the 1957 Canadian Custom Royals did have 354 2-bbl Poly-head engines in them.
Looking at its D501 trunk emblem, at first glance it looks to be re-chromed (which it MAY be...but) the
chroming quality is EXCELLENT...un-believeably so; check out its fine-detail: that is 'always' lost in the
re-chroming polishing-out/buffing operation.
So, this non-D500's (present-condition) fair market value may be equivalent to the value of its D501 emblem!
(And, we know that the D501 race-car MODEL'S engine is NOT "the same" as a mere 300B engine; it is
considerably more powerfully-built than the 300B engine).
Actually, 1958 canadian custom Royals had the 354, but 1957 canadian custom Royals had only the 313 poly. D500, and even moreso D501 is not mentionned anywhere in canadian factory litterature, not even in the ross roy data book, so I have no idea -but I doubt- if it were ever available in Canada.
I agree with David.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Yes Neil, I know that car. It is a beauty! As you know, canadian cars are my hobby and I've seen dozens of 57 canadian custom royals. Never seen one with anything other than a 313 unless it didn't have the original engine.
You might also be interested to read some excerpts from the Canadian Ross Roy Data book:
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Location: bishop, ca | The subject car's ENGINE NUMBER would be very interesting, to confirm (y'all)....
So, what 'you', the prospective buyer, have here, is an in-pieces CAN CRL 2-door project car, plus a D501
emblem ( I wonder if this guy is a RE-POP...boy, I hope not; but, it COULD be, given its all-bright-chromed
appearance!)...for 35Large.
Price seems to be very high, for the car, and what the car might actually "be".
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Location: Seville, OH | d500neil - 2015-05-18 7:55 PM
Well, the 1957 Canadian Custom Royals did have 354 2-bbl Poly-head engines in them.
Looking at its D501 trunk emblem, at first glance it looks to be re-chromed (which it MAY be...but) the
chroming quality is EXCELLENT...un-believeably so; check out its fine-detail: that is 'always' lost in the
re-chroming polishing-out/buffing operation.
So, this non-D500's (present-condition) fair market value may be equivalent to the value of its D501 emblem!
(And, we know that the D501 race-car MODEL'S engine is NOT "the same" as a mere 300B engine; it is
considerably more powerfully-built than the 300B engine).
Definitely a re-chrome, the edges of the numbers are rounded as well as the helmet. Makes you wonder where he got it though.
As for the trunk holes, we know the D500 and D501 emblems had the same hole pattern, but what about that trunk "V" emblem; same or different?
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Location: bishop, ca | d500neil - 2015-05-18 8:40 PM
David/Greg: can you post up any images of (all of) the 1957 CAN Dodge's interior motifs????
Dunno if the CAN CRL's got the "V" emblem on their trunks.
Probably did, though.
Yeah..looks like a re-chrome, but, that particular effort is one of (if not THE-) best renditions that
I've ever seen.
Get this puppy properly painted-up (with gold plated helmet) and it will look MAH-velous!
Its surface detail IS incredible, for a re-chromed potmetal emblem.
David, your guy's helmet is not finished in gold?
Am I brain-farting, here???
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d500neil - 2015-05-18 8:40 PM
David/Greg: can you post up any images of (all of) the 1957 CAN Dodge's interior motifs????
Dunno if the CAN CRL's got the "V" emblem on their trunks.
Probably did, though.
Yeah..looks like a re-chrome, but, that particular effort is one of (if not THE-) best renditions that
I've ever seen.
Get this puppy properly painted-up (with gold plated helmet) and it will look MAH-velous!
Its surface detail IS incredible, for a re-chromed potmetal emblem.
Here's the interior of a custom royal hardtop that is in my hometown.
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Location: bishop, ca | Gotta LOVE clear plastic seat covers!
57 CAN CRL's have GREAT looking interiors.
Actually, Upon Further Review....what gives-away the re-chroming of the emblem
is the softness of the "501" on it, rather than on any other areas on it.
AND, the 57 CAN CRL's have upholstery in the STYLE of the 57 US Royals, but their
upholstery cloth-material is unique to them.
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d500neil - 2015-05-18 8:40 PM
David, your guy's helmet is not finished in gold?
Am I brain-farting, here???
My 501 emblem has a gold helmet. My avatar picture is an emblem that was for sale on eBay years ago. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | You know me, Neil, I'm not much of an interior person but I will look! I left that stuff to you.
David, just as a matter of interest, have you seen many power packed 313s? I can think of 2 maybe 3 but that is all.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | soiouz - 2015-05-18 8:54 PM
d500neil - 2015-05-18 8:43 PM
d500neil - 2015-05-18 8:40 PM
David/Greg: can you post up any images of (all of) the 1957 CAN Dodge's interior motifs????
Dunno if the CAN CRL's got the "V" emblem on their trunks.
Probably did, though.
Yeah..looks like a re-chrome, but, that particular effort is one of (if not THE-) best renditions that
I've ever seen.
Get this puppy properly painted-up (with gold plated helmet) and it will look MAH-velous!
Its surface detail IS incredible, for a re-chromed potmetal emblem.
Here's the interior of a custom royal hardtop that is in my hometown.
Very nice. Most of the ones I recall were that horrible gray/blue!
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A D501 engine with a single 4bbl carb. Installed, by a dealer, in a Canadian-built Custom Royal. In what year?
Wonder what the engine number is.
The Canadian-built 1957 Custom Royal had a choice of one engine - 313-cid A block poly. You could get it with the optional power pack, though - 4bbl carb with dual exhausts.
The 1958 Canadian-built Custom Royal, as well as Firedome and Windsor, came with a 354-cid V8 - poly, though.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | LD3 Greg - 2015-05-18 9:15 PM
You know me, Neil, I'm not much of an interior person but I will look! I left that stuff to you.
David, just as a matter of interest, have you seen many power packed 313s? I can think of 2 maybe 3 but that is all.
Greg
No, not many. Same as you, just two or three. The one with the Tan/Brown interior and plastic seat covers is one of them. |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | There were no Factory A/C cars built in Canada at that time, either. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | The cowl is wrong for factory A/C and the compressor? brackets look more like a bird feeder than brackets!
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Location: bishop, ca | A few years ago, a certain man (no names-) was trying to pass off....as being a 1-of-1 D501 1957 Custom Royal 2-dr HT, that
was built (according to him, and to its P/T plate)...in Canada.
The "Special-ordered" CAN-car supposedly had paperwork documenting its legitimacy, but same was never adduced
to/for confirmation of its uniqueness.
Its engine number (eventually) confirmed that its real-D501 engine actually was OEM-installed in a convertible(!).
Another Myth busted....
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | jimntempe - 2015-05-19 5:48 PM
Those ac brackets and the idler pulley are the style that was commonly used for adding aftermarket systems with a York Compressor to FLs of that vintage.
I'll second that opinion, my Saratoga has a York compressor with similar brackets and idler pulley setup. Definitely not Mopar Airtemp issue. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Neil, just as I thought, I have no 57 CDN interior photos left. All gone!
But, here is one that is interesting. This is a 58 CDN custom Royal that had been for sale for years. I just kept placing lower and lower offers for it. The seller would refuse and then call me months later to accept. Well, I just countered with a much lower offer, which he would instantly refuse and so it went on. I bought the car for a couple hundred bucks and it was a running, driving, titled and decent looking 2 dr HT with less than 40k miles on it.
This is a righteous, CAN. built 58 Custom Royal with, a "carried-over", 57 interior!!! And, yes, it was that horrible gray/blue combination!
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Location: bishop, ca | That was an OEM red car?
That gray/blue motif is OK!
Anyone know its official Corporate "name"???
So, we've seen the 58 CAN CRL interiors in gray/blue-ish, and brown/tan, to date.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | d500neil - 2015-05-20 5:10 AM
That was an OEM red car?
That gray/blue motif is OK!
Anyone know its official Corporate "name"???
So, we've seen the 58 CAN CRL interiors in gray/blue-ish, and brown/tan, to date.
No, you've seen the 57 CAN CRL interiors. What Greg just posted is an exception, being what looks like a 57 interior in a 58 car. The 58 CAN CRL interiors were standard 58 US Royal interiors.
I too like that blue/grey interior motif. It is by far the most common.
I have seen one or two blue ones too. I don't remember if I have pics of them, I'll look for some other examples. As for the name of that motif, I'll look in the catalogs and the Ross Roy book, it should be mentionned there.
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Location: So. Cal | The motor looks to be a 331 hemi from '54 or older. Notice the wet intake, heads without crossover, the older style water pump & trans cooler. He is either very confused or trying to find a sucker.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Here is my "registration sheet" that I filled out for that car before I bought it. Note the CDN body plate info.
When I loaded it on my trailer I could see that it was a bondo bucket! I didn't care because I just bought it for the drivetrain. I ended up restoring the body ------- what a job that was. I should post some of those pics on my Art Gallery Thread.
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Greg, I noticed that 58 didn't have power steering or brakes. Interesting to see a top of the line model without it. I remember looking at an old 1958 CDN MoPar service manual, ( this was in 1974 when I owned my 58 CRL), and I am sure it stated that Power steering and power brakes were standard on the Canadian built 58 Custom Royal. Am I right?
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Location: Seville, OH | imopar380 - 2015-05-20 12:06 PM
PS, I sent a message to the seller last week asking if he could back up any of his claims....... not surprisingly, he has not answered.
Me as well. Nothing but crickets. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Ian, thanks for the rotation!
The car is a 58 CDN Custom Royal and it didn't have PB or PS. Here is an underhood pic which shows no PB
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For the 1958 Dodge with the "1957" interior -
Model No - L-D-3-H-23
L - 1958
D - Dodge
3 - 354 cid V8
H - Custom Royal
23 - 2dr Hardtop
Body No - 627
627th L-D-3-H-23 built of a total of 1,262 built.
Total production of the Canadian Custom Royal came to 3,903
Color - XPP
X - roof - Dover White
P - Body - Holly Red
P - sweep, fins, etc. - Holly Red
The Ditzler code for Holly Red was 70778, which makes it an American colour. But I cannot find an American car or truck that used 70778, yet.
KBH -
Colour is Grey
Chrysler of Canada offered a wide selection of upholstery colours and materials, many of them carried forward from 1957. KBH appears to be one of them.
Standard equipment on the 1958 Custom Royal -
Torqueflite automatic transmission
Back up lights
Wheel covers
354-cid poly V8, 2-bbl carb, 10.0:1 compression ratio
60 Amp-hr battery
Optional equipment on the 1958 Custom Royal :
Heater and defroster
Power steering
Power brakes
6-way power seats
Power windows
Nylon tubeless tires
White wall tires
Power package (4-bbl carb, dual exhausts)
Rear quarter panel stone shield
Inside Prismatic rear view mirror
Windshield washer
Outside rear view mirror (2, fender mounted) on 4 door sedan
70 Amp-hr battery
The VIN is not listed, but the prefix was LD3W.
First cars was LD3W-1001 and the final one LD3W-4903
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | I must have been dreaming Greg. My 58 CRL 2 door HT had TF, Power Steering and brakes, and bumper teeth. However I'm sure it was a US built car because it had the typical US style Custom Royal interior, and had 350-2 barrel engine. What confuses me is that it was sold at a Chilliwack BC Chrysler dealer, as it still had the dealer's chrome name plate on the deck lid when I owned it. There was another 58 CRL on my street that also had the B engine and the US style interior. We had some email conversations a while back where you stated that you had discovered a US built CRL that was sold new in Ontario so these other two probably shared that same origin. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Ian, dreaming is good. It seems to be the only thing that I can now do well!!
I certainly recall our earlier discussion. I have to think that whenever a time sensitive sale was available, whatever it took to expedite the sale simply got done. I had a 58 price list years ago. As I recall, these "imported" cars were crazy expensive. In spite of this, deals obviously were made. Perhaps Bill can help here?
By the way, Bill, did last winter drive you out of Ontario? In any case , wise move! Wish I had sufficient flexibility!!!
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Location: Vancouver, BC | LD3 Greg - 2015-05-21 1:50 AM
Ian, dreaming is good. It seems to be the only thing that I can now do well!!
I certainly recall our earlier discussion. I have to think that whenever a time sensitive sale was available, whatever it took to expedite the sale simply got done. I had a 58 price list years ago. As I recall, these "imported" cars were crazy expensive. In spite of this, deals obviously were made. Perhaps Bill can help here?
By the way, Bill, did last winter drive you out of Ontario? In any case , wise move! Wish I had sufficient flexibility!!!
Greg
Yes, in those days before the Autopact agreement between Canada and the U.S., imported cars were far from cheap. When they hit the border the imports were hit with import duties, sales taxes and sometime excise taxes. Importer, distributor and dealer markups were added on to that total. In 1958 the Canadian and American dollars were around par.
The 1958 Dodge Custom Royal prices, in the U.S. :
4-door sedan - $3,030
2-door hardtop - $3,071
4-door hardtop - $3,142
2-door convertible - $3,298
2-seat Custom Sierra - $3,212
3-seat Custom Sierra - $3,354
Prices for the built in Canada Custom Royal -
4-door sedan - $3,562
2-door hardtop - $3,620
4-door hardtop - $3,713
and the imported models -
2-door convertible - $4,484
2-seat Custom Sierra - $4,506
3-seat Custom Sierra - $4.652
The built in Canada mark ups -
4-door sedan - 17.6%
2-door hardtop - 17.9%
4-door hardtop - 18.2%
the imported models mark up -
2-door convertible - 33.5%
2-seat Custom Sierra - 40.3%
3-seat Custom Sierra - 38.7%
Take the convertible's mark up and apply to a U.S. 2-door hardtop and you get $4,069, which is about what those imported 1958 Custom Royal hardtops would have gone for.
Needless to say, dealers would not turn down an order for an imported car. Costs more for the customer, but the dealer undoubtedly made more on the deal. And also more for unique imported parts, such as the 350 V8 engine.
In 1963 Canadians got some reprieve when the government adopted a floating import duty rate. Canadian manufacturers could get a rebate based on the value of products exported. This tariff change undoubtedly made the closing of the Studebaker South Bend plant and shifting sole production to the Canadian Hamilton plant feasible. Would like to know if any Studebaker executives were involved in setting up that deal. Of course, the Autopact of 1965 made imported parts and cars duty free in both directions.
The only other time Canadians got a break was from 1931 to 1936, where Canadian manufacturers could import parts with import duties lowered based on the Canadian value of the the cars built in Canada. And the Canadian content included any parts made in Canada by any firm, including rubber, electrical, trim, paint, etc. and labour. Even the cost of wages for the people on assembly line were considered Canadian content.
Companies that did not build cars in Canada were faced with no credits to go against import duties. However, Hupmobile, Packard, Graham, Reo and Hudson all opened plants in Canada and GM built LaSalle and Cadillac cars in Canada. Ford supposedly built 197 Lincoln-Zephyrs in 1936. The tariff reverted to the old rates in 1936, and with that production of Hupmobile, Graham, Reo, Studebaker, LaSalle, Cadillac, big Buicks, Chrysler eights, and all Chrysler Corp convertibles came to an end. Packard shut their plant in 1939 and Hudson in 1941.
My trip to Vancouver was escorted by winter weather right from Toronto through to Manitoba border. Could not get to Saute Ste Marie on my first day (December 1) due to a snow storm there. Tuesday was delayed by making up the time lost on Monday, plus more snow from Wawa to White River. Stayed the night there - got the last room available in the town. Wednesday was clear with no snow, but cold. In Kenora it was around -26C. Was planning on staying the night there and phoned my brother to let him know. He said Winnipeg was not far off (an hour or so) and they had a nice chicken dinner keeping warm for me plus some cold beers. What could I say? So, Wednesday's trip was from White River to Winnipeg.
Spent an additional day in Winnipeg with my brother and sister-in-law and left for Swift Current on Saturday. Beautiful weather that day and the next right into Banff. Stopped for gas and Timmy's coffee. Get out of the coffee shop and the car won't start. A fellow traveller gave me a boost and I was off. Only it started to snow after passing Banff and right through to Golden. Wanted to get to Revelstoke but figured Golden is okay. Got a room and after getting everything needed into the room (luggage, maps, cat, food, etc.) shut the car off. Only, it was one CLICK and everything went dead - interior light, headlights, taillights - everything.
Next morning, Sunday, the motel clerk phoned around and found a garage that could bring over a new, fully charged battery. Put the battery in the car and everything was fine. Turned out I was driving from Banff to Golden on my alternator with no battery back up. That car has a fantastic charging system!
Got to Vancouver on Sunday evening with no problems and reported for my new job the next morning.
The only sad part of the trip was my sister in Victoria had taken ill before I left Toronto. Found out while in Winnipeg that her illness was terminal. Was able to spend the next two weekends in Victoria to visit her. She passed away on the Sunday before Christmas.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Thanks for the input, Bill.
Sorry to hear about your sister.
Quite a trip from Toronto, huh?! All the best in re-establishing things in BC.
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | PM sent; sorry for your loss, Bill.
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