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| Hi Everyone
New to the Forum - I already received GREAT help in the wanted to buy section - And have a poly 4bbl intake coming in from California
Now I'm seeking help concerning -- Brand Names - Part Numbers etc. - for ARP type HEAD bolts or studs
NO LUCK Thus Far -
I found the 318 Compatible ROD and MAIN ( ARP ) Bolts Jegs or Summit -- JUST no luck on the HEAD BOLTS
If no such animal exists ---
My guess would be to take my old bolts to a BOLT retailer - And match them up with GRADE "9" not 8
Or Chrome Moly Bolts (Cap Screws lol)
THANKS EVER SO KINDLY FOLKS - DON
1956 SAVOY 4dr |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | This may help:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/poly318.html
first:
Stroker Poly Parts List
Description Part Number
4" Mopar Performance stroker crank for LA318/340 #P5007256
ARP rod bolts #ARP 1446001
ARP head studs #AR8.OL
ARP main studs #AR4.06L
Clevite hardened rod bearings #CB481H
Childs and Albert Durs Moly rings #934335
Clevite full groove main bearings #MS1344P
Melling hivolume oil pump #M72HV
Milodon small block windage tray #32230
Rollmaster billet timing set #MRE1262 Mancini Racing
BHJ street dampner #BHJMPIB816
Crower valve springs #683051
Crower keepers #861071
Crower bushings #90927
Manley retainers #2364516
Sealed Power valve stem seals #ST2012 rubber PC type
Nylen guides #6850
FelPro full gasket set for Poly 318 #FS 7734PT2
Flow Kooler hiperf. water pump #1701 Summit Racing
Weiand (new) alum. singlefour Stealth intake #7503 Summit Racing
Carter 850cfin Thermoquad carburetor N/A
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/images/poly318-headbolts.jpg |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | unless the head bolts are ate up or the motor has gone through way too many rebuilds , why not use the old ones . finding new replacements might be a huge chore and
a pretty good expense especially when replacements weren't needed . i can understand new but not when old is perfectly fine --------------------------------------later |
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| THANKS MUCH GUYS - The old bolts seem to be fine - But I'm going a bit hotter with the cam - From Cam Craft from NC.
So I thought fresh bolts would be the way to go |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | a street built motor will be fine using the oem bolts . now if you would be building a monster with huge CPR , then i'd suggest new bolts ----------------------------------------later |
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Location: Perth Australia | I am with Chuck
An engineer will tell you to replace the bolts, as the bolts will have stretched and would, therefor be no good, as they would now be weaker.
In the real world (as Chuck said), unless you building a monster engine thats going to get huge combustion chamber pressures (blown ect), go with the ones you want.
Thats unless you want to go with the head stud look or change all the bolts to cap bolt style (ellen key headed) or something like that?
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| Thanks Gentleman I appreciate the reply
I Decided to go OEM - its the first tear down and only had TRUE 97000 miles on it ( Have most ot history paperwork )
Now the Million Dollar Question
Anyone know if roller rockers are available for this (lol-lol) boat anchor ( joking about boat anchor ) |
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Location: Perth Australia | Not sure?
When I built my engine, the machinist wanted me to get different ratio rockers, so I got more valve lift, but I never looked into it
You might need alloy rocker covers for clearence
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | if there's roller rockers for the early A engines , the fairy god mother just made --------------------------------------------------later |
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| L0L great reply's -I saw a pix of one online however there was no info - they looked custom made so I just thought I would ask. ---having rebuilt 2 poly 318's in the last 15 years made me me wonder now that I'm doing another poly that maybe by now a few new products might have come along - but I guess it's all in the fairy god mothers hands lol lol - soon I hope to post a url with a few pix - thanks again folks |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | last i heard roller rockers were in development and that was a good while ago -----------------------------------------------------------later |
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| I have a pix of the Roller Rockers - I just don't know how to post it ( no way to attach a jpeg file ) If there is some way to post the pix please inform me |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | http://www.racetechmotorsports.com/barrett-lashs-poly-318-project
Barrett Lash has been developing this Poly 318 for quite some time. Engine has many modifications and custom parts. I will post a copy of the Dyno pulls once I receive them, hoping second week in Sept.
This is Barrett Lash's 4rth and final build of the motor that has been his
test-bed of ideas to make the poly really perform. The 1st project build
was done in 1980, had 318 cubes, a Racer Brown Solid Cam and a single 4
barrel. It pushed the 4000# 66 fury to 14.30s (about 1hp per cubic inch).
31 Years later: it is now 362 CI, has a Milodon gear drive, hydraulic
roller cam, custom billet roller rockers, Hogan Sheet metal Manifold and
several hundreds of hours in head and block prep. With the Fury now down
to 2800#, Barret expects to do alot better than 14s....and for those who
say the POLY can't make big power to shut up!
(polyrockers.jpg)
Attachments ---------------- polyrockers.jpg (66KB - 101 downloads)
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