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Location: Valley Forge, Pa. | Hello,
The last time my oil was changed was at the body shop when they had my car. I went to change the oil yesterday and the plug never got tight. I pulled it out and with it came the pan threads. Problem is, some time in its life, someone allready used an oversized plug. Basically, there was no meat left in the pan, so it will need to be dropped and replaced or a nut welded in. I have a rubber plug with the nut on the backside in it right now. I've seen them used before and they seem to hold up but I'm not comfortable with it.
Anyway, looking at it, I'm not sure if the pan can be removed without rasing the motor? Will I need to remove the draglink also?
Thanks for your time and any suggestions.
Karl. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | Use a fine thread nut & bolt so it takes longer for the bolt to fall out, gives you longer to notice the leak if it loosens up. No experience with a 318 in a '60, but I'd jack it up until you hit interference & see what happens, such as drag link removal & you may have to turn the crank to get clearance of crank throws & counter weights depending on how much room you actually have. |
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Location: Valley Forge, Pa. | Thanks for your info,
I just would like to know, before i get under there, what is needed to pull the pan. As I recall, my shop manual for my 67 GTO, said I only needed to unbolt one mount and raise the engine 1-2". I almost had to pull the motor, starter, exhaust, ect.. Everyone I asked afterwards, said the same thing, so if there are any tricks or whatever needed, I would like to know before I start.
Later,
Karl. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | I have a different engine in my '60 Plym & haven't had to do this on it. Probably disconnect the pipes & engine mounts & see if it will go up enough before the tranny contacts the tranny hump. |
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Location: UK | When I had to take the oil pan off mine. I had to disconnect the exhaust from the manifold if the pipe runs under the back of the pan. Undo the engine mounts and disconnect radiator hoses and if I remember correctly I had to remove the dizzy cap as that could foul at the back of the engine bay and even then I had to still disconnect the drag link at the steering box end.. Not something I want to rush into again. |
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Location: Valley Forge, Pa. | Thanks, yours was the info I was looking for. Fortunately, I[at this moment] don't think I will have to go that way but I am not too happy with the rubber plug. I think I will change the plug every time I change the oil. I'm not very comfortablew with this set up.
Any other suggestions to replacing the oil drain plug other than the rubber type plug that you push into the hole and tighten up the nut? |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | try a tapered pipe plug . one that will just start , the threads will do the rest -------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: Ripon, WI | 60 dart - 2014-04-12 12:10 PM
try a tapered pipe plug . one that will just start , the threads will do the rest -------------------------------------------------later
Once you do that, and the first one cuts the threads for you a bit, I would pull that one out and put a new one in with nice clean threads. |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | you got to remember though , when buying a pipe threaded plug , it's size listing is not the same as a straight bolt . if the oem plug is 5/8-18 , you'll need i think a 3/8-18
listed pipe thread . cast iron pipe threaded plug would be the best , being cast iron hard versus the soft oil pan . ------------------------------------------later |
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Location: North Australia | Karl, don't be tempted to bodge this up. Do it right. Pull the pan and repair it properly. You should be able to buy a kit to do this. Maybe go 1 better than original and install a plug with a magnet?
Something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Differential-Cover-Weld-On-Oil-Drain-Plug-a...
Steve |
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