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Posted 2012-06-22 12:28 AM (#326587)
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I might as well start a thread on my latest purchase. Some of you may have seen it on the Ebay/CL section. I picked it up in Dallas today. It is a running and driving car that I will refresh to make it safe . It's a slant 6, 3 on the tree, with add on under dash air. This car was sold at Fred Oakley Motors in Dallas,TX. The glove box was full of documents including the original owners packet that included the original owners info. Oh yea, it has the original WINDOW STICKER. The Delivery date was 8/12/61. I googled the original owners name on white pages.com and he is still alive at 99 yrs young. I'm going to do some more digging and see if I can contact him or his family. I hope I can download pics. Thats it for now.

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2012-06-22 12:54 AM (#326589 - in reply to #326587)
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Very nice . I was wondering does it still have the original headliner? My '61 fury still does. It lived with original owner until 2006
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Posted 2012-06-22 12:55 AM (#326590 - in reply to #326587)
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I love the '61 Plymouths, GREAT find!
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Posted 2012-06-22 12:58 AM (#326591 - in reply to #326590)
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Yes it has its original headliner. However, the rear piece is drooping a little but an easy fix.

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Posted 2012-06-22 1:08 AM (#326593 - in reply to #326587)
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Very nice Plymouth. Looks like a nice solid car. Good luck with it.
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Posted 2012-06-22 5:44 AM (#326600 - in reply to #326587)
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Great score, Dorsey! A 2-door hardtop with padded dash and dog-dish hubcaps, a really strange (non) equipped car. Very cool.
Is the car yellow? I think "maize" would be the official name of the color.
She sure needs a good bath!

Again, great score!
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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-22 9:42 AM (#326627 - in reply to #326587)
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I've been admiring my new ride and drinking my cup of coffee thinking of the previous owners. I wonder if they had the same feelings that all of us have by owning a FL car? I was steel wooling(oooo) and dreaming and looked on the floor and found the " Mopar COOL AIRE by Chrysler " metal strip that fell off of the under dash A/C. So I'm guessing this unit was added after it sold new. I don't have the original sales invoice to document this item. I'll post pics of all of the paper work later on. It is a light yellow color.

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2012-06-22 12:05 PM (#326644 - in reply to #326587)
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It took my father 18 months to restore mine. It was well taken care of by the original owner. I really enjoy driving mine to cruise ins and shows. There are times I will take it out for a pleasure drive. I added a AM/FM / CD player to mine so I can listen to the music that was playing on the radio when it was brand new . I also tinted the windows to help keep the interrior cooler when its out of the garage . You will also see mine in a movie called Hell and Mr Fudge. My '61 fury is a black 2drht



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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-06-22 4:09 PM (#326689 - in reply to #326587)
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Awesome ride, Dorsey... and super cool on the history trail...

Hope you are able to get in touch with the original owner.

Can't wait to see this one on the road for sure!


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Posted 2012-06-22 4:10 PM (#326691 - in reply to #326587)
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Oh, yeah... where do you keep parking all these cool finds????

If you run out of room, you can just bring a couple over to my place (with the titles in the front seat of course)

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Posted 2012-06-22 4:35 PM (#326696 - in reply to #326691)
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Dorsey, as you know, the original sales order would have to say something like :" Car to be delivered with Air
Conditioning".

That would explain/document the MoPar under dash A/C unit, but, a dealership could have installed that system any time after
the car was sold.




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Posted 2012-06-22 5:27 PM (#326706 - in reply to #326587)
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Nice find, Dorsey!!

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Posted 2012-06-22 6:29 PM (#326721 - in reply to #326587)
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nice find dorsey! steve here from boston... get rid of the slant 6 and put in a 318 or a 383 , find a square steering wheel and your good to go...
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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-22 10:27 PM (#326764 - in reply to #326587)
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Slant 6's are one of my favorite motors. My '60 has a / and my '84 1/2 ton pick up. 57 Saratoga will tell ya the / will run 70-80 all day long. I'm all about originality. Whats nice about a / is that they get at least 20 mpg on the freeway in a full size car. OBAHMA is sending meeeeees a check so I can find more places to hide my fleet. HA! This '61 Belve will be on the road within a month. I named it "Frumpy". It just has that look!!! Thanks for all of your comments.

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2012-06-24 6:39 AM (#326939 - in reply to #326587)
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I wish mine had AC. I hope it can be added. I also know it will be hard to find a donar car with it or maybe I can get an aftermarket installed. I know dreams are cheap but in reality they are not
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Posted 2012-06-24 6:46 AM (#326940 - in reply to #326587)
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My '61 has a 318 under the hood it was rebuilt before my dad got the car. The highest fuel MPG I got was 23 mpg . I run premium in mine . Were I go the premiun has no ethenol in it. I also wanted to pass the 411 that ethenol in gasolines is not good for the carburator .
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Posted 2012-06-24 9:13 AM (#326945 - in reply to #326940)
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Oh wow... I didnt even realize that it was Maize Yellow, as it is so light... Rare colour... Such a cool find Dorsey! Adriana
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Posted 2012-06-24 9:59 AM (#326951 - in reply to #326764)
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oldwood - 2012-06-22 10:27 PM

Slant 6's are one of my favorite motors. My '60 has a / and my '84 1/2 ton pick up. 57 Saratoga will tell ya the / will run 70-80 all day long. I'm all about originality. Whats nice about a / is that they get at least 20 mpg on the freeway in a full size car. OBAHMA is sending meeeeees a check so I can find more places to hide my fleet. HA! This '61 Belve will be on the road within a month. I named it "Frumpy". It just has that look!!! Thanks for all of your comments.



On the road within a month? This is great!!!!!! I love your car.

PLEASE, I hope you will document the restoration process and post tons of pictures
Will you keep the original color? This one is amazing.

Lucky, really.


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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-24 2:57 PM (#326979 - in reply to #326587)
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I'm just going to get it where I can drive it safely. I have another 2dr '61 in a salvage yard that will give me the trunk pan and other parts.
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Posted 2012-06-24 6:05 PM (#326996 - in reply to #326587)
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Here is some documentation. Getting a car like this cool especially when it comes with extra goodies.



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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-26 3:00 PM (#327224 - in reply to #326587)
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Here is a pic of my parts car. It has a good trunk lid and trunk pan which I needed for this '61 I just bought. I'm glad I kept this parts car because you never know when you'll need it.

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1960fury
Posted 2012-06-26 5:08 PM (#327232 - in reply to #327224)
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that looks pretty solid&restorable and its a coupe... trunk pans are easy to fabricate.
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Posted 2012-06-27 12:06 AM (#327275 - in reply to #326587)
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Too many parts are gone off this parts car to piece it back together.
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1960fury
Posted 2012-06-27 10:26 AM (#327299 - in reply to #327275)
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if the other side is equally solid&straight (at least thats how it appears in the picture) please let me know if you want to sell it before you cut into it. a straight rust free body is the most important thing in a restoration and cars like that are getting rare. a car that has seen rust repair or sheet metal replacement will always be a patched up car, all the rest can be restored/replaced again and again but you can't duplicate a virgin factory body.
cars considered too far gone today will be worth their weight in gold in a not too far future. imo it would be a shame to destroy it for a part that can be relatively easily fabricated. if the wheel arches of the car you just bought are gone too it would be wiser to transfer its parts to the "parts" car with less rust/good floor pan...
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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-27 1:06 PM (#327325 - in reply to #327299)
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The flloor pans in the parts car are gone. The windshield is broken. All of the interior would need to be restored. The list goes on. Are you wanting to save the parts car??? Its also a slant with an automatic.
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Posted 2012-06-27 1:30 PM (#327331 - in reply to #326587)
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The parts car looks like it crashed in there from outer space.
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Posted 2012-06-27 2:11 PM (#327343 - in reply to #326587)
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I agree with Sid - that "parts car" looks solid.
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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-27 2:22 PM (#327347 - in reply to #327343)
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The rear end is gone also. Someone throw me a # and I'll consider it.
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Posted 2012-06-28 9:59 AM (#327492 - in reply to #327347)
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i was actually looking for a v8 project. the busted window and missing axle is the killer. it would cost me a fortune on shipping and to piece it back together over here across the pond. if i was over there... in a heartbeat. i really hope someone here can save it!
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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-30 8:12 PM (#327866 - in reply to #326587)
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Here are some new pics with seats out. Floor pans, Trunk pan and the door panels. I took a few breaks today with heat and humidity.



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Posted 2012-07-02 8:15 AM (#328047 - in reply to #326587)
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It is a bit warm around this part of the world, so be careful Dorsey.

Aside from the floors, she looks very solid.
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Posted 2012-07-02 8:28 AM (#328055 - in reply to #328047)
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SavoyPlaza - 2012-07-02 8:15 AM

It is a bit warm around this part of the world, so be careful Dorsey.

Aside from the floors, she looks very solid.
Pete


Agreed on both... stay out of the heat, man.. we were in Nashville with Amanda's mom all weekend... 109 there...

You got her runnin' yet?

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oldwood
Posted 2012-07-04 10:11 AM (#328317 - in reply to #326587)
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UPDATE: I spoke with the 2nd owner of this car and he couldn't remember when in the 70's that his father bought this car for them to work on together. They bought the car with approx. 26k miles on it from the original owner. By the receipts that came with the car it had 33,343 on 6/8/01. Currently it has 33,830 miles. He sold it to the dealer I bought it from @ 30days ago for $1100.00. He stated he had some pics of him and his dad from yrs ago with the car that he would send me. He was glad that someone got it that would get it going again. I'll post those pics when I get them.
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Posted 2012-07-04 1:08 PM (#328338 - in reply to #326587)
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I will be looking foward seeing more photos. You will have fun with this car when you get done. It took my father 18 months to restore mine. He will not register a car like this until he has gone over it and make sure it is safe to drive on the road. I converted to disc brakes on the front. With the hot air there are times when I am driving mine I wish I had AC. I hope some day when I get the extra $ I can get it added on . When you get tires if the sales man offers you nitrogen instead of regular air take it.
The nitrogen will keep the tire pressure the same , tires will stay cooler, they will last longer and you will get better fuel economy. The highest gas milage I got on my '61 fury was 23mpg. I have a 318 in mine its a 4bl and its also the original motor but it was rebuilt before I got it.
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Posted 2012-07-05 1:46 AM (#328431 - in reply to #326587)
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nice history diggin' Dorsey...gonna be a neat car with a little elbow grease...Awesome find
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oldwood
Posted 2012-07-05 12:08 PM (#328479 - in reply to #326587)
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I pulled the gas tank yesterday and found it 1/3 full. I cleaned it this morning with muratic acid and it is now spotless. I coated the inside with WD-40 to prevent flash rust. Total cost less than $15.00. YEA!!!
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Posted 2012-07-13 3:28 PM (#329701 - in reply to #326587)
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Make sure the fuel does not have ethenol. Ethenol in today's fuel is not good for the carburators . www.pure-gas.org this will tell you the fuel stations that have pure fuel and what grades have no ethenol in it. The phillips 66 down the street from me has no ethenol in thier premium so I run that in my '61 fury
I have a 318 since I started running the 93 the motor has been running alot smoother than it did




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Posted 2012-07-13 5:48 PM (#329722 - in reply to #329701)
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Steph, you should find out which place around you has a Sun tester/analyzer for your car's distributor, and find out
if that place can re-curve the dissie, for its maximum efficiency...and/or, at least, tell you what the mechanical and the
vacuum advancements are, in it.




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Posted 2012-07-22 7:48 PM (#331134 - in reply to #326587)
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Ok, here is the latest news!!! I replaced all rubber fuel hoses with fuel injected hose(expensive). I put in @ 4 gal. of real gas and hit my remote starter button and the "Leaning Tower of Power" came alive. This motor is really quite and I believe the previous owners claim to it having 33k actual miles. I ordered all new fabric and the heat sinc emblem pieces from SMS and they will be here sometime in early September. All lights, blinkers, and horn work. The carb has what I believe to have an internal leak as I can cover the top of the carb and the idle smooths out. These carbs are known to warp. I'll have to disassemble and sand the top and body of the carb to get them flat, unless someone has a good /6 carb. I also need 4 head light rings at a reasonable price. That's it for now as it is getting dark.

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Posted 2012-07-22 7:59 PM (#331137 - in reply to #331134)
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Dorsey, if you can find even semi-decent headlight rings, cheaply-enough, they can be restored and polished, to NOS appearance.

So, I guess what I'm saying is...you do not have to pay bigbux for really nice, but flawed, rings.

Bigbux for really nice ones, or smallbux for restorable ones, but not bigbux for flawed ones.




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Posted 2012-07-22 10:46 PM (#331167 - in reply to #329722)
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I had it converted to electronic ignition. Since I started running premium in my '61 my dad made the comment the motor was running alot smoother than it did before. My father also fixed the problem you are talking about.

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Posted 2012-07-24 9:16 PM (#331492 - in reply to #326587)
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Also check Ebay for parts
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oldwood
Posted 2012-07-28 12:14 PM (#332028 - in reply to #326587)
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There is no greater JOY than getting to drive a new ride. It was just down the road and back and the brakes worked and it only died once. The clutch slips like hell but I may be able to adjust it for now. Oh yea, Code Enforcement sent me a notice about abandon cars. It will really chap his arse when I start and drive it.
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Posted 2012-08-07 9:53 PM (#333725 - in reply to #332028)
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oldwood - 2012-07-28 12:14 PM

There is no greater JOY than getting to drive a new ride. It was just down the road and back and the brakes worked and it only died once. The clutch slips like hell but I may be able to adjust it for now. Oh yea, Code Enforcement sent me a notice about abandon cars. It will really chap his arse when I start and drive it.


A friend of mine got busted for that in Louisiana... The cop showed up to act on the neighbor's complaint. He made my buddy start the car, move it forward, move it backward... that was it... not a non-op issue... The officer left, and he went back inside... thankful that the cop didn't notice he was having to use the hand brake to stop it...

Rolling Pics!!!!

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Posted 2012-08-08 8:07 AM (#333760 - in reply to #332028)
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When I lived in Florida I was restoring another car . A real estate woman turned the car into the city of Palm Bay. Code enforcement sent a notice in the mail about it. When my mother called and asked who turned the car in . I paid this real estate company back big time
This is what I did . I went to the house next door from mine with a can of orange spray paint and spraypainted a ghostbusters sign on each side of the sign infront of the house that was for sale
I will say this paybacks are hell

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Posted 2012-08-08 4:29 PM (#333812 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-08-08 9:56 PM (#333855 - in reply to #326587)
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I wouild of loved to seen the look on that realestate's salesperson when they seen that thier sign got decorated with orange spraypaint
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Posted 2012-08-24 9:57 PM (#336182 - in reply to #326587)
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I bought a $10.00 used carb for parts and repaired the one on this '61. I also got lucky on ebay tonight and bought 4 NOS tail light lens for $13.50 shipped to my door. They're Glo Bright lenses but only the FL Gods will know the difference.

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Posted 2012-08-26 2:41 PM (#336341 - in reply to #326587)
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Awesome car. I love the '61s. And an intact dashpad? I don't know if I've ever seen one of those! The pad in my '60 Plymouth looks like a waterfall sliding off the dash...haha. I wish i could find documentation in cars when I buy them. All I seem to find are rats nests and gum wrappers...

The Glo-Brite lenses will work fine...but if the car is in the sun a lot they do fade much quicker than the originals for some reason. Atleast the '57 Plymouth lenses do.
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Posted 2012-09-03 11:37 PM (#337428 - in reply to #326587)
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Even the smallest things getting done bring "Frumpy" a little closer to being on the road. I got the tail light short fixed and replaced bulbs and NORS lens.



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Posted 2012-09-10 11:19 PM (#338345 - in reply to #326587)
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Just met this guy on the HAMB!!! Jeff Spence out of CA. He has a custom shop and his T-shirt design that has his '61 Fury on it. I tried to download the pic but of course I'm a DUMMY!!!

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Posted 2012-09-16 7:59 PM (#339127 - in reply to #326587)
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Here is a pic of the clutch that I pulled out last night. I'm doing a bandaid repair as funds are low and I had a new disc on the bench. I just sanded the PP and flywheel and installed new disc. I'm getting ready to stab the tranny and be able to maybe take this car to the Petit Jean Mtn swap meet this week.

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Posted 2012-09-17 9:18 PM (#339298 - in reply to #326587)
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I buttoned up the clutch this morning and replaced a tire . Then it was time to find out more about this car. It still has carb problems but I was able to drive it for about an hour this afternoon. I really had a good time till I ran out of gas at a major intersection in rush hour afternoon traffic. A couple of guys at the gas station helped me push into a car wash. People don't know what to think about this '61. Their facial expressions tells the story,"what the hell is that" ? I also received a package this afternoon with some Goodies. This car has been brought back to life on a shoestring budget. I've cleaned the tank, replaced fuel line and filter, R and R clutch disc, changed oil and filter, 1 used tire, 2 NORS tail light len's, 2 tail light bulbs.



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Posted 2012-09-17 11:20 PM (#339311 - in reply to #326587)
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Thanks Jeff for your help with the parts. I will be driving "Frumpy" to Petit Jean Mtn for the swap meet with its new bling.
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Posted 2012-09-17 11:42 PM (#339315 - in reply to #339311)
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Posted 2012-09-18 12:17 PM (#339355 - in reply to #326587)
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What does it mean when the gas gauge reads "E". I rebuilt the sending unit but I thought it didn't work. This morning I put $50 of non-ethanol in it and it reads 1/2. Yea, I have a gas guage that works. Its 68 in Little Rock and getting ready for the swap meet. The more I drive it the better it runs.
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Posted 2012-09-18 1:09 PM (#339360 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-09-22 8:20 AM (#340042 - in reply to #326587)
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Well I dorve back and forth From LR to Petit Jean and logged a cpl. hundred miles over 2 days. However the new 10 yr old NEW tires are starting to separate. AS soon as I parked the car at Petit Jean they flocked around it and always had a crowd around it most of the day. People got upset that I wouldn't sell it. I've gotta rebuid the carb and go through the brakes but it was a blast to drive it. Frumpy held his own!!!
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Posted 2012-09-23 1:47 PM (#340223 - in reply to #326587)
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Here are some updated pic of some emblems and head light rings. The bling sure makes Frumpy look better. I've been treating the dash with a leather conditioner to help preserve a nice option.



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Posted 2012-09-23 7:09 PM (#340258 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-09-24 4:35 PM (#340375 - in reply to #326587)
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This is not a car, it´s a freaking SPACESHIP no wonder people wonders.......the more you look at it the merrier it get´s Hope that little engine can put up with modern traffic-rythm.

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Posted 2012-09-24 9:07 PM (#340412 - in reply to #340375)
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/6's will run 70-80 all day long. They used this motor up to the late 80's. The '62 dodge station wagon they made @ 70,000 units and @68,000 were /6's. Got that info from the HAMB.The dash being in this shape after spending its whole life in Dallas,Texas.
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Posted 2012-09-25 7:20 AM (#340461 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-09-26 11:15 AM (#340659 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-10-18 9:29 AM (#343551 - in reply to #326587)
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Some MO BLING for Frumpy!!!



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Posted 2012-10-19 9:18 AM (#343714 - in reply to #326587)
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I'm going to pick up this car tomorrow. Chrysler Corp sure didn't give me much option for placement of these antenna's because the trunk lid is so wide and the side drop off so quickly. But hey, I'll have dual rears on my '61 2dr HT.
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Posted 2012-10-19 10:22 AM (#343725 - in reply to #326587)
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I have a similar problem with my 60 plym

I think with that style of base, its about the only place they will fit.

By the way, I have to ask, did you buy it just for the antennas?

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Posted 2012-10-19 10:40 AM (#343728 - in reply to #343725)
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ttotired - 2012-10-19 10:22 AM

I have a similar problem with my 60 plym

I think with that style of base, its about the only place they will fit.

By the way, I have to ask, did you buy it just for the antennas?

Sorta!!! I just have pics of it and know nothing about it. I been told the floor pans have rust holes. I'm going to get it home and see what I really bought. Dual rear antenna's are VERY VERY rare on a '61.
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Posted 2012-10-19 7:37 PM (#343788 - in reply to #326587)
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I think they set off the look of old cars

Love them

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Posted 2012-10-20 10:01 PM (#343913 - in reply to #326587)
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I thought I would post pics of my 2nd '61 parts car that came with some goodies and more sheet metal that I need. If someone has a parts book maybe you could tell me what these parts # fit. These are the #'s off of the antenna bases. 1838148 and 1838149 I found the T-Bucket not far from the Belve but it wasn't for sale.

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Posted 2012-10-22 12:18 AM (#344078 - in reply to #326587)
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I worked all day on my new '61 4dr parts car. The antenna's wire and splitter are now safe from critters. I started drilling out the spot weld in the trunk so I can get the trunk pan out in 1 piece. This is going to take some time. I got some better head light rings. They're not perfect but a whole lot better than what I've been collecting. I also pulled off some of the chrome to replace the dented pieces on my HT. I guess it's time to learn how to weld with my Miller Matic wire welder. I spayed down the cyl's with PB blaster as the mtr. is stuck. The cig. lighter has never been used. If anyone is looking for some '61 4dr parts give me a call.

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Posted 2012-11-03 8:57 PM (#345654 - in reply to #326587)
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Today, I took a trip up in the Ozarks to see and old friend and attend an electric fan gathering. Since my last post I've rebuilt the carb and its a whole lot better and pulled my WWW off of my '60 Savoy to take this trip. It ran really well for what little work I've done to it. It is using some oil so I'm going to try some "sea foam" and see if that will help. To get away from the rat race and my Rental problems this trip sure lightened the load in my head. These pics are from a gravel road mountain view. I got the OK from the land owner and I pulled it down in 1st and up Frumpy went. The pics don't show the size of this mountain but I had my doubts about making it up and then sliding back down.



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Posted 2012-11-03 9:03 PM (#345655 - in reply to #345654)
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Those dog dishes, with those tires, really look good on your car!

What do you do at those conventions; just shoot the breeze, or get long winded?

Is being a fan redundant?












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Posted 2012-11-03 10:29 PM (#345664 - in reply to #326587)
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That rear 3/4 scenic shot is awesome! Can't wait to see it with the dual antennas!
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Posted 2012-11-04 8:30 PM (#345770 - in reply to #326587)
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This view was just the bomb!!! The car is a blast to drive and gets great gas mileage and goes faster than the speed limit. The cross ram carb set up is really GREAAAAAAAAAT on this /6 !!! lol
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Posted 2012-11-05 5:48 AM (#345812 - in reply to #326587)
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Great photos, Dorsey! I'm a big 'fan' of Frumpy!

Those www's really set the car off, she's a looker!
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Posted 2012-11-05 6:30 AM (#345819 - in reply to #326587)
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Awesome pics from the road, Dorsey!

I just found myself a new background for my computer screen.

I love the look of the patina on the car against the fall colors. Great images.

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Posted 2012-11-05 6:31 AM (#345820 - in reply to #326587)
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Oh... and those fans are cool.... I LOVE old electric fans.

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Posted 2012-11-06 7:48 AM (#345993 - in reply to #345812)
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SavoyPlaza - 2012-11-05 5:48 AM

Great photos, Dorsey! I'm a big 'fan' of Frumpy!

Those www's really set the car off, she's a looker!
Pete
I don't know if "Frumpy" is a he or a she but its paid for and it gets really good gas mileage vs my F150. I've been stripping out the 2nd '61 parts car. My 1st welding job with my Millermatic211 will be to install the trunk pan out of both parts cars. I need both trunk pans to have 1 good one.
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Posted 2012-11-06 12:33 PM (#346027 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-11-06 4:25 PM (#346054 - in reply to #346027)
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You might even say that it is outstanding, in its field.

You might say that.






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Posted 2012-11-06 7:52 PM (#346074 - in reply to #346054)
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Here is another in the "Field of Dreams"



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Posted 2012-11-06 10:04 PM (#346085 - in reply to #326587)
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Cool pics.

I like the fans too. I have an Emerson Silver Swan circa 1937-1940
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Posted 2012-11-07 1:03 AM (#346105 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2012-11-07 9:18 PM (#346224 - in reply to #326587)
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Very nice pic´s thank´s for sharing

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Posted 2012-11-07 9:49 PM (#346225 - in reply to #346224)
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I really appreciate everyone's kind words. When I bought this car I knew I didn't need another car. I need to finish some of my others. But(you knew there had to be a but)Frumpy needed a new home. The little slanty just loves to run. Sonics last car show of the year is this weekend here in Little Rock. This car hasn't been seen around thses parts so I'm sure it will get the attention that it deserves. I'll be sure and get pics of the gawkers!!!
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Posted 2012-11-07 9:58 PM (#346226 - in reply to #326587)
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looking good Dorsey...nice to see Frumpy back on the road where, she belongs!
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Posted 2012-11-10 9:03 PM (#346627 - in reply to #326587)
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Here are a couple of pics from a local Sonic car show. '61 Plymouth vs. '61 Chevrolet.



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i had a 61 Chev bubble top. Neat cars...i really love the big three's 61 renditions, they all had very sporty roof line in their two door hardtops. That Plymouth looks awes there, now just need a Dodge, and a 61 Starliner to complete the gathering...looks like you had plenty of fun there.
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It was fun Sam. I agree that a '61 Dodge is needed in the pic. I'm selling my Red '61 Dodge wagon. However, I'm keeping the white '61 wagon.

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Here is a picture of the 2nd owners dad sometime in the 90's when it was in storage. The head light rings are cut in this photo also. This pic shows it to have beauty rings with the dog dish's. Were the rings a option. The rings are not shown on the original window sticker. The son of the 2nd owner just sent me this photo from Dallas,TX. It is neat to get more documentation.

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and different look that sets it apart from the rest. Neat car.
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Posted 2013-02-13 8:38 PM (#359903 - in reply to #326587)
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Posted 2013-02-13 9:04 PM (#359906 - in reply to #326587)
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Great looking 61. Glad to see the car getting some much deserved attention.
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I am currently doing some much needed work on it. I'm either going to drive this '61 or my '60 4dr Savoy to the WPC/NDC show in St Paul, MN. in July. Pics will be following next week
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Dorsey,

I meant to ask earlier, ... does that beast run a 10" clutch ? Is it adequate for the 6 cyl. app ?

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Dorsey; forget if this was already mentioned, but do you know how/why the deck lid got so hammered?




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Posted 2013-11-19 5:54 PM (#411657 - in reply to #326587)
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Well it is FINALLY back together and I have been terrorizing the City of Little Rock. All new brakes, wheels blasted and powder coated and paint coded, new tires, and my Aero wheel. The tires are too small but for $120.00 mounted and balanced I can at least drive it. If anyone cares, you can use an Aero wheel on a non-power steering car with a 3 on da tree. I almost forgot about 3 of my headlight rings that I had straightened. They are not perfect but better than nothing.

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Posted 2013-11-20 2:30 PM (#411870 - in reply to #326587)
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Frumpy is a HIM!!! LOL But with all the looks that I've had in the past 2 days you would think I was from OUTER SPACE.
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Posted 2013-11-20 7:08 PM (#411957 - in reply to #326587)
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I like the name frumpy
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Posted 2013-11-21 6:21 AM (#412009 - in reply to #326587)
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Is 'Frumpy' the nickname for the car or for Dorsey?


Just kidding, Frumpy is looking good! The wheels are a nice touch.
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oldwood
Posted 2013-11-21 9:52 AM (#412038 - in reply to #326587)
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For the past 2 days, Frumpy and I have had big smile's on our faces. I had paint matched to the color chip and had it put in aerosol cans. I then painted the wheels. You can see how much the car has faded.

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DIF-RNT
Posted 2013-11-21 10:04 AM (#412039 - in reply to #326587)
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Frumpy looks great.......
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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-06 10:15 PM (#434848 - in reply to #326587)
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I was at a small car show at a local pizza restaurant and received this trophy.



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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2014-04-07 6:37 AM (#434878 - in reply to #326587)
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Congrats, Dorsey! Ol' Frumpy's doing fine!

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Posted 2014-04-07 12:08 PM (#434913 - in reply to #326587)
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Love your '61
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oldwood
Posted 2014-11-29 3:24 PM (#463106 - in reply to #326587)
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I added some more Bling to Frumpy. The horn doesn't work but I'll figure that out after the NEW wears off.



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2014-11-30 3:51 AM (#463169 - in reply to #326587)
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It looks like this company does a really good job restoring these wheels. I plan to have mine done when I get the funds saved up. I have the company bookmarked in my computer
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1960fury
Posted 2014-12-01 7:32 AM (#463277 - in reply to #463169)
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i have a question. my 61 fury coupe has the same type of steering wheel but the horn button lacks the PLYMOUTH letters. its a manual steering (round wheel) but the horn button should be the same. not? or was this a canadian thing? (original radio does not say plymouth either, only "chryco") also it has an ELECTRIC washer pump with a neat button in the center of the switch. was that a canadian feature too? i have never seen that on a domestic 61 plymouth.
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oldwood
Posted 2014-12-01 10:38 AM (#463290 - in reply to #463277)
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I saw a horn ring bar with no letters on ebay. I didn't know that they made 2 different types. I'm not sure about the electric washer pump.
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oldwood
Posted 2014-12-02 10:25 PM (#463434 - in reply to #326587)
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I pulled this seat out of the '60 plymouth Fury that I'm parting out. My '61 seat was down to the springs. My arse feels so much better sitting in a swivel!!!

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Posted 2014-12-03 5:53 AM (#463457 - in reply to #326587)
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Your arse should feel like FL royalty in those seats!

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oldwood
Posted 2014-12-03 9:10 AM (#463466 - in reply to #463457)
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Royalty??? I do feel privileged to own a decent '61 Plymouth and I'm taking Frumpy to work with me today. Today, I will make my presence know among the Suburbans and Priuses.
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2014-12-05 7:31 PM (#463761 - in reply to #326587)
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Thank You Frumpy I will take that Aero Wheel
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oldwood
Posted 2015-11-01 10:06 PM (#493902 - in reply to #326587)
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This car is now "For Sale" without the Aero wheel or the swivel seat. PRICE$3500. Call me anytime: 5 zero one- six to six- zero o six sevin . I drive it at least 4 times a week
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196061SAVOY
Posted 2015-11-03 6:17 PM (#494102 - in reply to #326587)
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3500,? through it on ebay, u might get 3 times as much,



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